Vodafone phones tapped

kumate_champ07

it's political, Vodafone is pissed off with something so has put this out and wants to be seen to the public as a protector of consumer rights, theyre just like every other phone company tho, screw you for everything they can get away with,

the phone taps dont effect their profits anyway

Gummy Panda

So the government knows I've been looking at BBW porn?

Capt'n Midnight

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON

ECHELON, originally a code-name, is now used in global media and in popular culture to describe a signals intelligence (SIGINT) collection and analysis network operated on behalf of the five signatory nations to the UKUSA Security Agreement[1] (Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States, referred to by a number of abbreviations, including AUSCANNZUKUS[1] and Five Eyes).[2][3][4] It has also been described as the only software system which controls the download and dissemination of the intercept of commercial satellite trunk communications.[5] It was created in the early 1960s

Look at a map of undersea cables, most of them connect to one of the above countries.

Almost all of the big players in comms here are owned by US/UK/Oz

Add in equipment manufacturers like CISCO with built in backdoors for law enforcement, and then all the Israeli and Chinese gear ( banned in many countries ) and you can pretty much take it for granted that it's all monitored

One of my favourite Conspiracy Theories is the one about the telephone exchange in Belfast with a whole floor that the lifts don't go to. Or that ALL calls between here and the UK were subject to voice analysis for triggered recording as early as the 1980's. Of course now they just record everything in case they need it later .

darkpagandeath

Wonder have we been paying for the privilege of being listened to, You know tariffs upped to accommodate said infrastructure/monitoring.

Capt'n Midnight

Buzz Killington the third wrote: »

They can't tap my carrier pigeon!

Nab him
Jab him
Tab him
Grab him
Stop that pigeon now.

Fratton Fred

19543261 wrote: »

It seems this topic is a little too complex for you. Fortuantely After Hours caters to all intellect; you might find such topics as The worst kid's name you've ever heard?, Experiences with saps on holidays, and Words that you hate/dislike more to your enjoyment.

What do you do for an encore?

Sky King

Aren't there phrases that automatically trigger recording of international phone calls? Be funny to ring up your buddy and say Bomb IRA terrorist Al Quaida Jihad to set off the recording and then start rambling off gibberish from Star Trek about Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra that some spook in MI6 would then have to sit down and try to decipher.

Fratton Fred

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Wonder have we been paying for the privilege of being listened to, You know tariffs upped to accommodate said infrastructure/monitoring.

No. In relative terms, the cost of the extra equipment required is somewhere between piss all and **** all.

Think of a phone network as a massive computer network. You talk in to your handset, which turns your voice in to code. That code then goes via wireless to a base station, where it enters the main network and is routed to its destination. Taping in along the way is easy peasy.

Knob Longman

This broke in Greece about a decade ago. I always just presumed after that that it was a worldwide thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_wiretapping_case_2004%E2%80%9305

Capt'n Midnight

Skip to page 43 of www.vodafone.com/content/dam/sustainability/2014/pdf/operating-responsibly/vodafone_law_enforcement_disclosure_report.pdf

The Postal and Telecommunications Services Act 1983
(the “1983 Act”) (as amended by the Postal Packets and
Telecommunications Messages (Regulation) Act 1993 (the
“1993 Act”)) establishes a regime for the interception of
telecommunications messages under Irish law. Although
“telecommunications message” is not defined for these
purposes, it is likely to include emails and SMS messages as
well as phone calls etc.

Section 110 of the 1983 Act provides that the Minister for
Posts and Telegraphs (now the Minister for Communications,
Energy and Natural Resources) (the “Minister”) may issue
directions in writing to a Licenced Operator requiring them
to do (or refrain from doing) anything which the Minister
may specify from time to time as necessary in the national
interest.
...
Communications (Retention of Data) Act 2011
Section 6 of the Communications (Retention of Data) Act 2011
(the “2011 Act”) allows for the making of requests to service
providers to disclose customer data retained in accordance
with section 3 of the 2011 Act (a “Disclosure Request”).

Knob Longman

KungPao wrote: »

It means The Man knows all about your sordid little plan to meet your friends at the pub at half eight. AND they have detailed notes on your past shopping sprees at Aldi and Lidl.

Hard luck.

And the bag of Weed you just got off your mate

Tail Docker

Considering your mobile phone is no more than a tracking device and a bug, handily located in your pocket, most serious criminals have ditched them as a means of communicating a fair while ago. They almost exclusively use two cans and some string, which has led to booming sales of pedigree chum and sisal twine. You can always recognise a serious villain by the long string dragging behind them and the faint whiff of meaty chunks.

19543261

Fratton Fred wrote: »

What do you do for an encore?

I'm not sure, but I'll autograph your buttocks for you, if you'd like.

Lou.m

Hitchens wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0606/621912-vodafone/

Big Brother is listening, watch out!

WHAT???

Dont call me Shirley

4000 of one type of tapping from one operator in one year. Let's suppose vodafone have 25% of the market, that's 12000 per year before we get to listening in on calls, and we have to assume that if the mobile phone operators are being used for these activities the ISP's are too.

That's a hell of a lot of eavesdropping.

I fully appreciate that this tapping can be important in catching criminals but given this huge frequency I think it's very reasonable to demand greater accountability.

Knob Longman

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/cellphone-operator-reveals-scale-of-govt-snooping/2014/06/06/b703183c-edc3-11e3-8a8a-e17c08f80871_story.html


Ireland is up with the best of them here, Most of these bar Hungary are countries with dodgy/suspect human right's records or problems with freedom of press for example.

" The appendix reveals that six countries — Albania, Egypt, Hungary, Ireland, Qatar and Turkey — have provisions that allow authorities to request unfettered access."

Tail Docker

Knob Longman wrote: »

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/cellphone-operator-reveals-scale-of-govt-snooping/2014/06/06/b703183c-edc3-11e3-8a8a-e17c08f80871_story.html


Ireland is up with the best of them here, Most of these bar Hungary are countries with dodgy/suspect human right's records or problems with freedom of press for example.

" The appendix reveals that six countries — Albania, Egypt, Hungary, Ireland, Qatar and Turkey — have provisions that allow authorities to request unfettered access."

Considering all the other shyte that goes on here, maybe we're being sniffy not wanting to be in that club. We meet every other criteria.

19543261

Totally agree. Seeing ourselves as above those other countries' conduct in any way is totally delusional.

19543261

Pretty dead thread. The government are unjustly spying on all of us and few people care. It's actually hilarious.

Knob Longman

19543261 wrote: »

Pretty dead thread. The government are unjustly spying on all of us and few people care. It's actually hilarious.

It went the way of the Anglo thread:(

renegademaster

oh look the world cup is on nyom nyom nyom

life is but one big soap opera and the majority dont give a sh1t

renegademaster

Knob Longman wrote: »

It went the way of the Anglo thread:(

and the anglo tapes/ jailthebankers protests were hijacked by the SWP/PBP and disbanded for the summer so as to not interupt pre-planed summer holidays and apperantly to build a ground movement, we're still waiting...

Dramatik

"Is it cool if I drop up after work and collect that green school bag? I won't need the white school bag till the weekend..." They must be wondering why I keep leaving my school bag in different people's gaffs...

Metroid diorteM

Those responsible for spying on the private calls of Irish citizens should go to jail. If we don't bring in laws to protect our privacy it will be destroyed.

Sooner or later a dictator will rise up again and with the technology out there today you wouldn't have a hope in hell of doing anything about changing it.

People are so naieve.

Cookie_Monster

19543261 wrote: »

Pretty dead thread. The government are unjustly spying on all of us and few people care. It's actually hilarious.

Probably because most people realise it's always been happening with mobiles and is just a fact of modern life...

renegademaster

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

Probably because most people realise it's always been happening with mobiles and is just a fact of modern life...

its most likely to do with the fact nothing is a good enough reason for the average Joe to get off their fat arse to demand change or their rights, keep doing nothing and some day it will be too late to try fight back

gctest50

Dramatik wrote: »

"Is it cool if I drop up after work and collect that green school bag? I won't need the white school bag till the weekend..." They must be wondering why I keep leaving my school bag in different people's gaffs...

can't see any flaw in that -

Using pop-music-themed code names for crack and cocaine in an attempt to conceal their drug sales, more than two dozen Capital Region men and women fueled a narcotics ring that was brought down Tuesday, according to the sprawling indictment charging the suspects.

The investigation tracked drug sales from August until mid-March. The drugs were trafficked through Albany, Bronx, Montgomery, New York, Oneida, Rensselaer, Rockland, Saratoga and Schenectady counties.


http://www.timesunion.com/default/article/25-indicted-in-sprawling-Capital-Region-drug-ring-5541710.php

jaykay12

In my opinion (which is all I can offer..) anybody praising Vodafone is incorrect to do so.

This latest news was released a couple of days after this; (can't post full URL.....but you know what to do)

theregister.co.uk/2014/06/03/revealed_beyond_top_secret_british_intelligence_middleeast_internet_spy_base/

It's damage limitation as far as I can see - "we know we're been bold, but we're trying".

VF, along with BT, are the UK Gov's go-to-guys for all the wiretapping, submarine cable splitting and that. They've fed from the trough for long enough, so I certainly won't take this new-found conscience at face value until the actually change something.
And they can - big business is listened to a lot more often than up proles.