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    #572
    davedanon
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    Plenty of carbs in beans, no?


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    #573
    Myles Splitz
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    #574
    Wild Garlic
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    davedanon wrote: »
    Plenty of carbs in beans, no?

    Define plenty dude.


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    #575
    Stablemaster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 73 ✭✭Stablemaster


    my coach from another forum has me on the banting diet


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    #576
    davedanon
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    Wild Garlic wrote: »
    Define plenty dude.


    you don't know what 'plenty' means?


    In any case, what does it matter? Maybe he had lots and lots of beans.


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    #577
    BeepBeep67
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    davedanon wrote: »
    Plenty of carbs in beans, no?


    60% typically, but then it depends how many you have :)


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    #578
    davedanon
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    What I said.


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    #579
    Wild Garlic
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    davedanon wrote: »
    you don't know what 'plenty' means?


    In any case, what does it matter? Maybe he had lots and lots of beans.

    Ah David you seem a little stressed. Try and include some avocados in your diet, I hear they have a calming effect.


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    #580
    kit3
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    BeepBeep67 wrote: »
    60% typically, but then it depends how many you have :)

    In fairness, would it not depend on the type of beans & how they were served (any special sauces etc)


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    #581
    PaulieC
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    Wild Garlic wrote: »
    Nice. Not much carbs though. Was that intentional?

    the chicken was southern fried in breadcrumbs - there's carbs and fats right there.
    And there were plenty of beans - kidney and navy.


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    #582
    Wild Garlic
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    PaulieC wrote: »
    the chicken was southern fried in breadcrumbs - there's carbs and fats right there.
    And there were plenty of beans - kidney and navy.

    I like your style


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    #583
    Wild Garlic
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    Stablemaster wrote: »
    my coach from another forum has me on the banting diet

    You mean baiting...


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    #584
    runnter
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    Paddy,

    stop giving the secrets away. Next thing you'll be telling them bout Friday gift


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    #585
    kit3
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    Stablemaster wrote: »
    my coach from another forum has me on the banting diet

    Hadn't heard of this one so went to my friend google. Had to laugh at the introduction:

    'William Banting was a British undertaker who was very obese and desperately wanted to loose weight.....'

    Is this a weight loss diet for you or is it performance linked ?


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    #586
    PaulieC
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    Wild Garlic wrote: »
    I like your style

    I missed breakfast. Actually since the main topic of discussion at the moment here is diet and fasting and stuff, while walking to the canteen today I mentioned to a colleague that I was starving because I forgot to have breakfast. He was amazed that I was able to cycle the whole 6 miles to work on an empty stomach. I told him I was fat adapted.


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    #587
    kit3
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    PaulieC wrote: »
    the chicken was southern fried in breadcrumbs - there's carbs and fats right there.
    And there were plenty of beans - kidney and navy.

    Hmm, can we expect an extra fast, wind assisted cycle this evening then ?


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    #588
    PaulieC
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    kit3 wrote: »
    Hmm, can we expect an extra fast, wind assisted cycle this evening then ?

    fo' shizzle. All Downhill too...


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    #589
    Wild Garlic
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    runnter wrote: »
    Paddy,

    stop giving the secrets away. Next thing you'll be telling them bout Friday gift

    Them?


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    #590
    BeepBeep67
    Registered Users Posts: 8,082 ✭✭✭BeepBeep67


    kit3 wrote: »
    In fairness, would it not depend on the type of beans & how they were served (any special sauces etc)

    You don't need to over think it, pick dark beans and add a simple dressing and you pack a lot of carbs in. Part of my staple diet for lunch.
    Kidney beans, tuna, red onion, olive oil and some parsley and black pepper with a sprinkle of curry powder is a cracker :cool:


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    #591
    Enduro
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    kit3 wrote: »
    Hadn't heard of this one so went to my friend google. Had to laugh at the introduction:

    'William Banting was a British undertaker who was very obese and desperately wanted to loose weight.....'

    Is this a weight loss diet for you or is it performance linked ?

    Tim Noakes uses the term a lot for his HFLC dietry guidlines. And being Tim Noakes it is very much performance related. Add performance to the google search terms!


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    #592
    Ron Gomall
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    BeepBeep67 wrote: »
    You don't need to over think it, pick dark beans and add a simple dressing and you pack a lot of carbs in. Part of my staple diet for lunch.
    Kidney beans, tuna, red onion, olive oil and some parsley and black pepper with a sprinkle of curry powder is a cracker :cool:

    Some walnuts and avocados are great to add in for good fats even almonds or cashews if you have them. Try IF, Lydiard and almonds for great results.


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    #593
    Stablemaster
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    Wild Garlic wrote: »
    Them?

    P. If I had a secret sauce, I wouldn't want to give out the recipe to the general public ;).

    One thing I can say however is that I don't like leaks in my sauce. I hope you are not a leak man :D


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    #594
    davedanon
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    Wild Garlic wrote: »
    Ah David you seem a little stressed. Try and include some avocados in your diet, I hear they have a calming effect.


    Trying too hard, Barry.


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    #595
    Stablemaster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 73 ✭✭Stablemaster


    P. We can discuss it in the private place later. After I deconstruct Andrew's training and map out how to build him into a running machine (just like I did with the youngfella ;))

    Of course if you don't see it you'll know why!!!


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    #596
    runnter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10 ✭runnter


    I'm confused here


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    #597
    Myles Splitz
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    Enduro wrote: »
    Tim Noakes uses the term a lot for his HFLC dietry guidlines. And being Tim Noakes it is very much performance related. Add performance to the google search terms!

    Is his research recently performance related? I know he is a friend of Phinney and Volek now but I thought that most of his views related to carb resistancy and general health over the past four years? I know he has mentioned weight of runners being a limiter but I haven't come across any of his research looking solely at performance markers (would be interested in reading as I was a big fan of his earlier work prior to his area of focus shifting however I have seen a few back and forths pop up but for the most part have avoided his research as of late so could well have missed any performance related papers)

    I know Noakes has come under criticism over the years from a wide range of sources (most notably )

    This lead to arguments and counter arguments


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    #598
    UM1
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    Good top end for Raw100 tomorrow night,few italian heads capable of 13/14 hrs,keith whyte,think last years winner is back again...shud be good


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    #599
    Enduro
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    UM1 wrote: »
    Good top end for Raw100 tomorrow night,few italian heads capable of 13/14 hrs,keith whyte,think last years winner is back again...shud be good

    And of course at least 5 or 6 Irish international ultra runners racing in Ireland's oldest ultra tomorrow, the newly renamed Maurice Mullins Ultra! Shame they clash.

    Preume 100 miles will be a new experience for the Italians. Very few countries bother with non-standard Imperial distance races.


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    #600
    Enduro
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    Myles Splitz wrote: »
    Is his research recently performance related? I know he is a friend of Phinney and Volek now but I thought that most of his views related to carb resistancy and general health over the past four years? I know he has mentioned weight of runners being a limiter but I haven't come across any of his research looking solely at performance markers (would be interested in reading as I was a big fan of his earlier work prior to his area of focus shifting however I have seen a few back and forths pop up but for the most part have avoided his research as of late so could well have missed any performance related papers)

    I know Noakes has come under criticism over the years from a wide range of sources (most notably )

    This lead to arguments and counter arguments

    I'd be pretty sure he is still very much involved in performance related research. He was a keynote speaker at the RCSI's FSEM conference last year


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    #601
    TFBubendorfer
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    Enduro wrote: »
    Preume 100 miles will be a new experience for the Italians. Very few countries bother with non-standard Imperial distance races.

    There are quite a few 100 mile races on the continent, sometimes billed as 160km


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