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*** Leaving Cert PHYSICS 2014 ***

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭aleatorio


    Beautiful paper :D confident for the A1 I think :pac:
    Did every question except for Q6 because ew mechanics.. XD


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 367 ✭✭qweerty


    Daniel2590 wrote: »
    Joules law, conservation of momentum, speed of sound in air and snells law were the experiments. Q6 had derivation of F=ma, difference between vectors and scalars, then the calculation was based on a golf ball being hit (find initial speed and Max height)

    Thanks for a thorougly comprehensive reply, man.


  • Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭omara95


    Nice enough paper. Happy with it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 deadpixel


    Lovely paper, couldn't have asked for much better in terms of what came up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭aleatorio


    Ok so I scribbled down a majority of my calculations answers:

    Q2: n=1.175
    Q3: v= 339
    Q4: Temp = 25.5
    Q5: (b) 6.563 x 10^23 (d) 75.6J (h) 2.1627 x 10^-19
    Q7: Energy of photon = 2.8036 x 10^-19 Number of lines = 400
    Q8: 7.628 x 10^24 nuclei
    Q9: Charge = 3.6 x 10^-5C Energy = 2.16 x 10^-4 New capacitance: 4 x 10^-6F
    Q10: speed = 29.025 Resistance = 17.36 ohms
    Q11: Frequency = 2.4177 x 10^14Hz Decay constant = 5.77622 x 10^-4
    Q12:
    (A) Length = 4.13cm Period = 0.2565s
    (C) Mass = 0.014375kg Temp = 21.45 (these are wrong, just realized I only did it for 1 ice cube :()


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭Daniel2590


    Did anyone who does applied maths use projectiles for Q6 actually? I used max height when Vy = 0 and all that craic :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 LifeasaPigeon


    Daniel2590 wrote: »
    Did anyone who does applied maths use projectiles for Q6 actually? I used max height when Vy = 0 and all that craic :pac:

    Yeah, and I usually avoid mechanics but it was too lovely not to do :p applied maths finally came in handy for something! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 367 ✭✭qweerty


    Daniel2590 wrote: »
    Did anyone who does applied maths use projectiles for Q6 actually? I used max height when Vy = 0 and all that craic :pac:

    Lol. I'd say the corrector will think you're such a prat. They'll be dying to deduct marks!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 367 ✭✭qweerty


    Yeah, and I usually avoid mechanics but it was too lovely not to do :p applied maths finally came in handy for something! :D

    Why do you avoid Mechanics considering you do AM?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 LifeasaPigeon


    qweerty wrote: »
    Why do you avoid Mechanics considering you do AM?

    I'm really bad at it :p doesn't look like I'll be counting it for points :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 881 ✭✭✭AtomicKoala


    Ah, so we were the year who finally got a comprehension question on the option.

    We're one of a kind! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭b0gg3r


    Such a paper. Delighted. Only thing I know now that I got wrong was the last part of question 11, the formula about the momentum of a particle in a cyclotron.

    Hoping the marking scheme isn't too rough, but most of the guys in my school found it easy enough, one nutter even did every question!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭aleatorio


    b0gg3r wrote: »
    Such a paper. Delighted. Only thing I know now that I got wrong was the last part of question 11, the formula about the momentum of a particle in a cyclotron.

    Hoping the marking scheme isn't too rough, but most of the guys in my school found it easy enough, one nutter even did every question!

    Was that mv = qBr ? :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 881 ✭✭✭AtomicKoala


    aleatorio wrote: »
    Was that mv = qBr ? :o

    Yeah, I assume you should write p = qBr, as p is momentum (p = mv) :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭aleatorio


    Yeah, I assume you should write p = qBr, as p is momentum (p = mv) :)

    Oh.. Oops XD doubt I'd lose much for that though :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 113 ✭✭Daithi MacG


    Daniel2590 wrote: »
    Did anyone who does applied maths use projectiles for Q6 actually? I used max height when Vy = 0 and all that craic :pac:

    My friend did it that way and said he got something like 53m, whereas I got something around 13m. What did you get? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 LifeasaPigeon


    My friend did it that way and said he got something like 53m, whereas I got something around 13m. What did you get? :)

    I think I got around 13m too :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭FatRat


    What a test! So unbelievably easy. Suspiciously too easy tbh... Something's up with how easy it was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 881 ✭✭✭AtomicKoala


    FatRat wrote: »
    What a test! So unbelievably easy. Suspiciously too easy tbh... Something's up with how easy it was.

    Maybe you did OL by accident? :pac: ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 113 ✭✭Daithi MacG


    FatRat wrote: »
    What a test! So unbelievably easy. Suspiciously too easy tbh... Something's up with how easy it was.
    I'd say it'll be marked hard, lots of detail needed probably.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6 CL987


    aleatorio wrote: »
    Ok so I scribbled down a majority of my calculations answers:

    Q2: n=1.175
    Q3: v= 339
    Q4: Temp = 25.5
    Q5: (b) 6.563 x 10^23 (d) 75.6J (h) 2.1627 x 10^-19
    Q7: Energy of photon = 2.8036 x 10^-19 Number of lines = 400
    Q8: 7.628 x 10^24 nuclei
    Q9: Charge = 3.6 x 10^-5C Energy = 2.16 x 10^-4 New capacitance: 4 x 10^-6F
    Q10: speed = 29.025 Resistance = 17.36 ohms
    Q11: Frequency = 2.4177 x 10^14Hz Decay constant = 5.77622 x 10^-4
    Q12:
    (A) Length = 4.13cm Period = 0.2565s
    (C) Mass = 0.014375kg Temp = 21.45 (these are wrong, just realized I only did it for 1 ice cube :()


    got the exact same for every q, including the wrong ice calculation haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭aleatorio


    CL987 wrote: »
    got the exact same for every q, including the wrong ice calculation haha

    Hahahah well hopefully we got everything right then except for that stupid ice q! :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 906 ✭✭✭Ompala


    Daniel2590 wrote: »
    Joules law, conservation of momentum, speed of sound in air and snells law were the experiments. Q6 had derivation of F=ma, difference between vectors and scalars, then the calculation was based on a golf ball being hit (find initial speed and Max height)

    Finally! Hoped that would appear 2 years ago when I did the Leaving and last year when I was giving grinds in physics!

    Sounds like a straightforward paper from what ye are saying, if you had done the work you would have no problems with it, but then again that is always the way with LC Physics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭FatRat


    The diffraction grating formula was called by someone here yesterday.. I had said if light wasn't in section then q7 would be the diffraction grating experiment! Seems to be a trend putting an experiment type q in q7.

    Can somebody write out the equation for the nuclear reaction in q8,just to be sure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 113 ✭✭Daithi MacG


    aleatorio wrote: »
    Ok so I scribbled down a majority of my calculations answers:

    Q2: n=1.175
    Q3: v= 339
    Q4: Temp = 25.5
    Q5: (b) 6.563 x 10^23 (d) 75.6J (h) 2.1627 x 10^-19
    Q7: Energy of photon = 2.8036 x 10^-19 Number of lines = 400
    Q8: 7.628 x 10^24 nuclei
    Q9: Charge = 3.6 x 10^-5C Energy = 2.16 x 10^-4 New capacitance: 4 x 10^-6F
    Q10: speed = 29.025 Resistance = 17.36 ohms
    Q11: Frequency = 2.4177 x 10^14Hz Decay constant = 5.77622 x 10^-4
    Q12:
    (A) Length = 4.13cm Period = 0.2565s
    (C) Mass = 0.014375kg Temp = 21.45 (these are wrong, just realized I only did it for 1 ice cube :()

    Think I got n=1.475 for Q.2...whoops :D
    I remembered to multiply by three for three ice cubes and got an answer of around 16 degrees for the temp.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭aleatorio


    Think I got n=1.475 for Q.2...whoops :D
    I remembered to multiply by three for three ice cubes and got an answer of around 16 degrees for the temp.

    I could be wrong idk :pac:

    Did you remember to take it away from the initial temp? It asked for the temp of the water not the change in temp :p


    Does anyone know if I got the wrong mass for the icecubes how will that impact the marking for the rest of the q?


  • Registered Users Posts: 274 ✭✭2thousand14


    Think I got n=1.475 for Q.2...whoops :D
    I remembered to multiply by three for three ice cubes and got an answer of around 16 degrees for the temp.

    I got 1.475 too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭XtotheZ


    I got 1.475 too

    yup 1.48.


    didnt really like that paper tbh


  • Registered Users Posts: 113 ✭✭Daithi MacG


    aleatorio wrote: »
    I could be wrong idk :pac:

    Did you remember to take it away from the initial temp? It asked for the temp of the water not the change in temp :p


    Does anyone know if I got the wrong mass for the icecubes how will that impact the marking for the rest of the q?

    Q.2 was the refractive index I thought? That's Q.4 you're thinking of, is it? For that I added the initial temperature, because my graph was I^2 against change in temp.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭Nicke011


    Lovely paper, it went unexpectedly good
    Hoping for a A2/B1/B2 :p

    The marking scheme is probably going to be very rough :o

    Q2 1.47
    Q4 26
    Q5 U-value, go construction studies! :D
    Q6 Net force = 0, golfer is not moving;
    Max height 12. something (about 13 as far as I remember); Let's go applied maths!
    Q8 Engineering all the way!
    238/92U + 1/0n = 239/95Pu + 2*(0/-1e)
    Q12
    b) V=-4.28cm
    c) T=15.68 degrees


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