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  • 08-06-2014 8:29pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 927 ✭✭✭


    As per title above .

    If I can't help you , someone else definitely can :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 96 ✭✭yvngceebs


    nanook5 wrote: »
    As per title above .

    If I can't help you , someone else definitely can :D

    For the Q1 on paper 2, when doing the Creditors' Ledgers/General Ledgers, how would I know whether to use "balance" or "bank"?

    Would wholeheartedly appreciate it if you could answer this question. If you can't, it's completely okay :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 148 ✭✭S_Hick12


    yvngceebs wrote: »
    For the Q1 on paper 2, when doing the Creditors' Ledgers/General Ledgers, how would I know whether to use "balance" or "bank"?

    Would wholeheartedly appreciate it if you could answer this question. If you can't, it's completely okay :)

    Sorry, i can't help but i have a bit of advice, do not do that question.


  • Registered Users Posts: 96 ✭✭yvngceebs


    S_Hick12 wrote: »
    Sorry, i can't help but i have a bit of advice, do not do that question.

    I sort of, kind-of understand it. I understand the ACB, General Journal, Purchase Books and the Trial Balance. Then comes the General + Creditors' Ledgers. Grrrr.


  • Registered Users Posts: 927 ✭✭✭nanook5


    yvngceebs wrote: »
    I sort of, kind-of understand it. I understand the ACB, General Journal, Purchase Books and the Trial Balance. Then comes the General + Creditors' Ledgers. Grrrr.

    OK . I would also advise you not to do this but here's my answer to your question :D (Keep in mind I may be wrong)

    From looking at the 2004 solutions it seems that balance is used for something that is outstanding e.g share capital because that needs to be paid back to the shareholders and bank is used when something is paid out/in e.g sales or purchases or VAT

    Then Balance is used for balance b/d and balance c/d

    I think that's right :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 96 ✭✭yvngceebs


    nanook5 wrote: »
    OK . I would also advise you not to do this but here's my answer to your question :D (Keep in mind I may be wrong)

    From looking at the 2004 solutions it seems that balance is used for something that is outstanding e.g share capital because that needs to be paid back to the shareholders and bank is used when something is paid out/in e.g sales or purchases or VAT

    Then Balance is used for balance b/d and balance c/d

    I think that's right :P

    Thank you so much! ^.^


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  • Registered Users Posts: 927 ✭✭✭nanook5


    yvngceebs wrote: »
    Thank you so much! ^.^

    No problem :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 337 ✭✭Beca19


    yvngceebs wrote: »
    For the Q1 on paper 2, when doing the Creditors' Ledgers/General Ledgers, how would I know whether to use "balance" or "bank"?

    Would wholeheartedly appreciate it if you could answer this question. If you can't, it's completely okay :)

    I only write balance when it says the word balance (like they tell you to use it) eg. Post the balances from this general journal into ledgers

    Then use bank from the rest, like all entries from the analysed cash book are put in the ledgers as 'bank'...
    I think anyway.....


  • Registered Users Posts: 927 ✭✭✭nanook5


    I don't think they would penalise you heavily if you miss-used Balance/bank . They are really looking for the correct figures .


  • Registered Users Posts: 927 ✭✭✭nanook5


    Beca19 wrote: »
    I only write balance when it says the word balance (like they tell you to use it) eg. Post the balances from this general journal into ledgers

    Then use bank from the rest, like all entries from the analysed cash book are put in the ledgers as 'bank'...
    I think anyway.....

    That's a better explanation than mine :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭Kelly090


    yvngceebs wrote: »
    For the Q1 on paper 2, when doing the Creditors' Ledgers/General Ledgers, how would I know whether to use "balance" or "bank"?

    Would wholeheartedly appreciate it if you could answer this question. If you can't, it's completely okay :)

    You use "balance" when posting figures from the general journal to the ledgers.
    You use "bank" when posting figures from the analysed cash book to the ledgers.
    Hope this helps :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 96 ✭✭yvngceebs


    Kelly090 wrote: »
    You use "balance" when posting figures from the general journal to the ledgers.
    You use "bank" when posting figures from the analysed cash book to the ledgers.
    Hope this helps :)

    Helped so, so, so much! Thank you!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭Kelly090


    yvngceebs wrote: »
    Helped so, so, so much! Thank you!!

    No problem :)oh and by the way you use GJ for the folio (in the ledgers) when posting from the general journal.
    Use ACB in the folio when posting from the analysed cash book.
    You probably already know that but just in case! :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 JWM12


    My advice is don't do the day books (Q1, Paper 2). They take a while and unless you're really good at them they'll wreck your head. You do 4 of 6 I think so I'll be having a stab at some of the other ones :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 96 ✭✭yvngceebs


    Kelly090 wrote: »
    No problem :)oh and by the way you use GJ for the folio (in the ledgers) when posting from the general journal.
    Use ACB in the folio when posting from the analysed cash book.
    You probably already know that but just in case! :)

    Thank you again!


  • Registered Users Posts: 29 LaLeche


    yvngceebs wrote: »
    I sort of, kind-of understand it. I understand the ACB, General Journal, Purchase Books and the Trial Balance. Then comes the General + Creditors' Ledgers. Grrrr.

    not to be mean... but you can't learn the general and creditor ledger the night before....


  • Registered Users Posts: 114 ✭✭yaEHya


    Predictions for long answer questions tomorrow ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 927 ✭✭✭nanook5


    Well Paper 1 is:

    Household budget
    Club accounts
    The consumer
    Banking
    People at work
    and another one ..... (that I can't think of)

    Paper 2 :
    Ledgers(Which most people don't do)
    Bookkeeping and documents and invoices
    Final accounts
    Cash flow forecast is likely(My friend told me today,I'm not sure)
    Marketing is likely also


    The rest of P2 is pretty unpredictable but I haven't looked at what can com up

    I just go with the (cash)flow :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 114 ✭✭yaEHya


    Would I be okay not doing club accounts ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,444 ✭✭✭VG31


    nanook5 wrote: »
    Well Paper 1 is:

    Household budget
    Club accounts
    The consumer
    Banking
    People at work
    and another one ..... (that I can't think of)

    Economics ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 927 ✭✭✭nanook5


    yaEHya wrote: »
    Would I be okay not doing club accounts ?

    Yes . You should be fine but I would suggest doing them


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  • Registered Users Posts: 114 ✭✭yaEHya


    nanook5 wrote: »
    Yes . You should be fine but I would suggest doing them

    I know how to do the shop account ones but theres other harder ones that come up sometimes?


  • Registered Users Posts: 927 ✭✭✭nanook5


    yaEHya wrote: »
    I know how to do the shop account ones but theres other harder ones that come up sometimes?

    Bar trading account , Receipts and payments account(Summary of analysed cash book) , Balance sheet and income and expenditure account


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭delaad


    yvngceebs wrote: »
    For the Q1 on paper 2, when doing the Creditors' Ledgers/General Ledgers, how would I know whether to use "balance" or "bank"?

    Would wholeheartedly appreciate it if you could answer this question. If you can't, it's completely okay :)

    Don't be too concerned about what goes in the Details column in the ledgers. The marks are given for writing in the amounts of money on the correct side of the accounts.

    And remember when you post/transfer an amount from the Cash Book to the Ledgers, the amount changes side: Debit in the Cash, Credit in the Ledgers, and vice.


  • Registered Users Posts: 114 ✭✭yaEHya


    Any tips for the short answers only got 30 In the mock which brought me down too a c


  • Registered Users Posts: 927 ✭✭✭nanook5


    yaEHya wrote: »
    Any tips for the short answers only got 30 In the mock which brought me down too a c

    GO PRACTICE THEM NOW!!!!

    Know what goes in trading account,P&L,Balance sheet , Debtors/creditor control accounts


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭delaad


    yaEHya wrote: »
    Any tips for the short answers only got 30 In the mock which brought me down too a c

    Go over the previous years questions. You'll soon notice that a fair number of them come round year on year, with only the names and numbers changing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 927 ✭✭✭nanook5


    VG31 wrote: »
    Economics ;)

    That was it :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 29 LaLeche


    A note of advice, the examiner will bend you over with a rusty spork if you try to do the club accounts using business account templates and headings, also don't piss of the examiner by doing all the section i and 2 questions. Thats an ordinary level move...


  • Registered Users Posts: 29 LaLeche


    yaEHya wrote: »
    Any tips for the short answers only got 30 In the mock which brought me down too a c

    Heres a great tip, you're ****ed now boy. Lol its the night before come on! The short questions cover the whole entirety of the course and don't say it brought you down. They are not huge marks the short questions


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  • Registered Users Posts: 29 LaLeche


    delaad wrote: »
    Don't be too concerned about what goes in the Details column in the ledgers. The marks are given for writing in the amounts of money on the correct side of the accounts.

    And remember when you post/transfer an amount from the Cash Book to the Ledgers, the amount changes side: Debit in the Cash, Credit in the Ledgers, and vice.

    Hi this is terrible advice, honestly you lose a lot of marks for that sort of ordinary level carry on.
    When coming from the cash book, you use bank otherwise balance


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