Chelsea Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014/15

grumpymunster

He got away with the Luiz one because he apologised after Luiz called on him to do so go figure. Well whats done is done as Eddie O'Sullivan says you can't unring a bell. I just hope there is consistency going forward if they say if a player stamps on another regardless of intent then they are guilty of being reckless then fine. That would take all arguments out of it, but you do have to wonder how Aguero got away with that with such obvious intent.

Blatter

Yeah remember the Luiz one and I commented in the match thread at the time that he wouldn't get charged because the ref had 'dealt' with it (think he gave a free kick or something). Same thing with the Noble incident

The FA are very consistent with that approach. The problem is that it lacks common sense at times. It's clear as day that Aguero deserved a ban on both occasions and Rooney for the elbow on McCarthy. I can understand the pov that they'd be making a rod for their own back if they made every single incident eligible for retrospective punishment but exceptions should sometimes be made for blatant dangerous play, even when the ref has 'dealt' with the incident.

They actually made an exception before with the Ben Thatcher elbow. The ref had 'dealt' with it by booking him but they had to go back and take more action.

hullaballoo

kfallon wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8fMbxLTpps

What the hell was Lennon doing putting his face where Shearer had no option but to smash his foot into it?

GavRedKing

grumpymunster wrote: »

He got away with the Luiz one because he apologised after Luiz called on him to do so go figure. Well whats done is done as Eddie O'Sullivan says you can't unring a bell. I just hope there is consistency going forward if they say if a player stamps on another regardless of intent then they are guilty of being reckless then fine. That would take all arguments out of it, but you do have to wonder how Aguero got away with that with such obvious intent.

I dont care if he apologised, as you said he went in to do Luiz, it was disgraceful then and it hasnt changed since.

So if Costa had apologised to Skrtel and Can he would have got off? Bo**ocks.

I expected it TBH so I'm not as annoyed as I would be but as you said, we need consistency.

Blatter

kfallon wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8fMbxLTpps

Ah right, I thought it was something to do with Aaron Lennon!

In fairness I don't think it's good to be going that far back. Different FA, different rules, different time. Not really comparable to today.

GavRedKing

Blatter wrote: »

Yeah remember the Luiz one and I commented in the match thread at the time that he wouldn't get charged because the ref had 'dealt' with it (think he gave a free kick or something). Same thing with the Noble incident

The FA are very consistent with that approach. The problem is that it lacks common sense at times. It's clear as day that Aguero deserved a ban on both occasions and Rooney for the elbow on McCarthy. I can understand the pov that they'd be making a rod for their own back if they made every single incident eligible for retrospective punishment but exceptions should sometimes be made for blatant dangerous play, even when the ref has 'dealt' with the incident.

They actually made an exception before with the Ben Thatcher elbow. The ref had 'dealt' with it by booking him but they had to go back and take more action.

The thacther one was a disgrace, that elbow was calculated and horrible.

Although as you said, it was dealt with and they made a special case for it, in certain circumstances they should go back and issue bans when clear intent is evident.

Now, the Aguero pictures show intent but any picture of a tackle can show a player looking aggresive, the other side is, the ball is in Luizs hand and he goes in 2 footed, off the ground, into his hamstring. Had luiz being injured they might have pulled Aguero but allowing him to get away with it was silly.

I think its easier if they can trot out the line the ref dealt with it, its out of our hands, unless of course an ioncident like the Thatcher/Mendes one pops up again they wont change their mind on a dealt with incident, rightly or wrongly.

peteeeed

FamousCFC ‏@Famous_CFC 5m5 minutes ago
*** BREAKING NEWS****
Ivanovic has been charged by FA for heading the ball into the net and knocking Liverpool out the League Cup

sums it up

niallo27

peteeeed wrote: »

FamousCFC ‏@Famous_CFC 5m5 minutes ago
*** BREAKING NEWS****
Ivanovic has been charged by FA for heading the ball into the net and knocking Liverpool out the League Cup

sums it up

About time hoe he got away with that elbow to Suarez's teeth 2 seasons back I will never know.

GavRedKing

niallo27 wrote: »

About time hoe he got away with that elbow to Suarez's teeth 2 seasons back I will never know.

Disgraceful carry on alright.

GavRedKing

Matter of time before we announce the Cuadrado deal.

Everyone happy with it? If it stops Ivanovic thinking hes Dani Alves I'm all for it

GavRedKing

Few stats so far this year, the bracket represents where we are relative to the other 20 teams in the league.

Goals per game
1.86 (3) - 2013
2.3 (1) - 2014

Goals conceded per game
0.71 (1) - 2013
0.86 (2) - 2014

Shots on target per game
6 (3) - 2013
6.2 (1) - 2014

Shots on target faced per game
2.3 (1) - 2013
3.2 (1) - 2014

Lukker-

Rumours that he's in the squad tomorrow. Id find that hard to believe.

GavRedKing

Lukker- wrote: »

Rumours that he's in the squad tomorrow. Id find that hard to believe.

Cuadrado?

No hope, he'd have to be registered with the league today, I think before 12.30 or something like that.

Crann na Beatha

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GavRedKing

Phoenix wrote: »

Not surprised over Costa's ban

We dont need him anyway

Drogba hat trick tomorrow

hots

GavRedKing wrote: »

Few stats so far this year, the bracket represents where we are relative to the other 20 teams in the league.

Goals per game
1.86 (3) - 2013
2.3 (1) - 2014

Goals conceded per game
0.71 (1) - 2013
0.86 (2) - 2014

Shots on target per game
6 (3) - 2013
6.2 (1) - 2014

Shots on target faced per game
2.3 (1) - 2013
3.2 (1) - 2014

Interesting stats, and something that will only get worse over the next couple of seasons with Terry handing over the reigns... really need to get a hold of that.

GavRedKing

If we can outscore people and keep it relatively tight at the back I'll be happy.

Lukker-

GavRedKing wrote: »

Cuadrado?

No hope, he'd have to be registered with the league today, I think before 12.30 or something like that.

SSN spouting **** as always.

Flying in tomorrow for a medical.

Crann na Beatha

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Lukker-

Phoenix wrote: »

Not surprised over Costa's ban

99% of cases that go to the FA are upheld.

hullaballoo

Phoenix mate, are you surprised that Costa was banned at all?

Crann na Beatha

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efb

It's stupid the FAs inconsitancy

GavRedKing

Micah Richards apparently wished Cuadrado good luck in his transfer to us today on facebook/twitter.

GavRedKing

Wolfsburg destroying Bayern 4-1

redman85

GavRedKing wrote: »

Wolfsburg destroying Bayern 4-1

KDB with 2 goals and an assist, always thought highly of him and thought he was a bit hard done by Mourinho

GavRedKing

redman85 wrote: »

KDB with 2 goals and an assist, always thought highly of him and thought he was a bit hard done by Mourinho

He'd be better than Salah but we made a tidy profit on him so not to bothered really.

Dozen Wicked Words

Hope Van Ginkel doesn't go same way, but probably will.

GavRedKing

Dozen Wicked Words wrote: »

Hope Van Ginkel doesn't go same way, but probably will.

Give Juventus MVG and buy Pogba

Jobs a good un :pac:

hullaballoo

Darth Sidious himself has chucked his insignificant load all over the Costa story (clicky picky):

phobia2011

redman85 wrote: »

KDB with 2 goals and an assist, always thought highly of him and thought he was a bit hard done by Mourinho

think him and lukaku's attitude were not in sync with jose.

GavRedKing

Cuadrado is meant to be taking number 74 :eek:

Lukker-

On KDB, he'll be the biggest mistake made by Jose IMO. Can see him going to United or City for €40m+ in a season or two just to prove us wrong. He's been magnificent this season, really.

Lukker-

I'm sick to death of people like Redknapp and the wider media urging fans not to boo Lamps today.

There isn't a hope he'll get a bad reception.

FFS the Chelsea fans started chanting super Frankie Lampard when he scored against us vs City.

His name will probably be chanted throughout by Chelsea fans.

Panthro

Lukker- wrote: »

I'm sick to death of people like Redknapp and the wider media urging fans not to boo Lamps today.

There isn't a hope he'll get a bad reception.

FFS the Chelsea fans started chanting super Frankie Lampard when he scored against us vs City.

His name will probably be chanted throughout by Chelsea fans.

And rightly so, Lampard's a club legend.

hullaballoo

I also reckon Lamps was completely oblivious to Man City's cheating in order to sign him fwiw. I'd imagine he fully expected to spend this season playing in MLS rather than being used as a way to circumvent City's FFP...em...issues.

Anyway, today's going to be full of distraction until about 5 o'clock for me. Hate this anticipation. I'd sleep til then if I could!

Blatter

hullaballoo wrote: »

I also reckon Lamps was completely oblivious to Man City's cheating in order to sign him fwiw. I'd imagine he fully expected to spend this season playing in MLS rather than being used as a way to circumvent City's FFP...em...issues.

Anyway, today's going to be full of distraction until about 5 o'clock for me. Hate this anticipation. I'd sleep til then if I could!

Come on, it's laughable to think that Lampard was some kind of innocent pawn used by big bad City.

He knew well what the contract was and what he was getting himself into.

Dozen Wicked Words

Blatter wrote: »

Come on, it's laughable to think that Lampard was some kind of innocent pawn used by big bad City.

He knew well what the contract was and what he was getting himself into.

Being 100% honest, I tend to agree with you, he's supposedly a very clever man.

hullaballoo

Blatter wrote: »

Come on, it's laughable to think that Lampard was some kind of innocent pawn used by big bad City.

He knew well what the contract was and what he was getting himself into.

I'm just trying to make myself feel better. It's not as though you haven't seen delusion on this forum before. :P

Duck Soup

Don't you dare score against us today SuperFrank, don't you fuggin' dare.

(On the supposition that he's an avid reader of this thread before games).

rottie 11

So cuadrado has 100% signed? im happy tbh havent seen a whole lot of him but he seems decent

Crann na Beatha

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redman85

Team to face Man City (4-2-3-1): Courtois; Ivanovic, Zouma, Terry (c), Azpilicueta; Ramires, Matic; Willian, Oscar, Hazard; Remy. #CFCvMCFC

redman85

Today's subs: Cech, Cahill, Christensen, Ake, Loftus-Cheek, Brown and Drogba. #CFCvMCFC

duckman!!

redman85 wrote: »

Team to face Man City (4-2-3-1): Courtois; Ivanovic, Zouma, Terry (c), Azpilicueta; Ramires, Matic; Willian, Oscar, Hazard; Remy. #CFCvMCFC

Has Zouma jumped in front of Cahill in the pecking order... I hope so!!

grumpymunster

Inexperienced bench will be tight 2-1 to us

Duck Soup

Sheeeeeeeeeeet. I'll take the draw.

Killinator

Well, glad that's over, that 2nd half was dross!

BarcodeMuncher

No outlet in the second half, hazard and oscar disappeared but a draw suits us suppose

Duck Soup

Zouma looking better, game by game. Delighted to see Loftus-Cheek get his (very short) debut. The passing game disappeared today to be replaced by hoof it upfield. The problem with the hoof out of defence is that the ball invariably comes back at you in short order.