The Sunday Game Thread

zetecescort

whats the betting the niggly stuff in the Galway-Dublin game will be passed off as tough manly hurling but if it was football they'd be saying prayers for any child that had to watch it.

Very Bored

zetecescort wrote: »

whats the betting the niggly stuff in the Galway-Dublin game will be passed off as tough manly hurling but if it was football they'd be saying prayers for any child that had to watch it.

Hurling has gone soft in many ways in recent years too though. The only thing I'd say about Galway, and I don't want to sound cocky here because I'm anything but, is that if they want to do the physical stuff on Kilkenny, they will be more than welcomed. The Cats are never happier than when a team wants to go physical with them.

zetecescort

Very Bored wrote: »

Hurling has gone soft in many ways in recent years too though. The only thing I'd say about Galway, and I don't want to sound cocky here because I'm anything but, is that if they want to do the physical stuff on Kilkenny, they will be more than welcomed. The Cats are never happier than when a team wants to go physical with them.

no place for digging when the ball is gone and stuff like that. Agree with you on KK, physical stuff plays into their hands.

Brian Gavin is a disaster because it nearly always gets out of his control like last night

dastardly00

I've only seen the incident between Joe Canning and Alan Nolan now. Nolan seems to be a bit of a loose cannon. He doesn't seem to like it when he concedes a goal, as we saw last year when he lashed out against Bubbles O'Dwyer. Take your beating ffs.

Very Bored

The Dubs are a wicked cynical, dirty, niggly team that can get very nasty when they are getting beat. That they have come on and have made Leinster more competitive is positive. I wish the money that has been spent on the hurling development up there by the GAA had been spent on a real hurling county like Wexford though.

And before the Dubs all start launching into it (which is the general Dublin reaction to any form of criticism), I don't have any chip on my shoulder about Dublin, without even the most miniscule sense of arrogance, I am from Kilkenny, why would I be remotely jealous of ye.

ProudDUB

Well seeing as you felt the need to to reassure people, in two posts in a row, that you aren't being arrogant or cocky.....guess what.....you probably are being arrogant and cocky ! :rolleyes:

delaad

zetecescort wrote: »

whats the betting the niggly stuff in the Galway-Dublin game will be passed off as tough manly hurling but if it was football they'd be saying prayers for any child that had to watch it.

Say it again! There's no dirt in hurling, just manly no-voting stuff.

Fireball07

Gleeson nominated for man of the match ahead of the Brick and De Burca? I thought the Brick was top, top class today; the best player on the pitch, Shanahan included, who was also brilliant.

Just An Opinion

Very Bored wrote: »

The Dubs are a wicked cynical, dirty, niggly team that can get very nasty when they are getting beat. That they have come on and have made Leinster more competitive is positive. I wish the money that has been spent on the hurling development up there by the GAA had been spent on a real hurling county like Wexford though.

And before the Dubs all start launching into it (which is the general Dublin reaction to any form of criticism), I don't have any chip on my shoulder about Dublin, without even the most miniscule sense of arrogance, I am from Kilkenny, why would I be remotely jealous of ye.

Is that right? throw your arrogant little self back to the 2011 league final, Kilkenny losing to Dublin and got quite handy at jabbing the butt of the hurl into opponents ribs off the ball.

So the Dubs don't have exclusivety of the 'wicked cynical, dirty, niggly' blah blah blah crap you're on about. Get off your high horse with your one eyed view nonsense.

Orizio

Very Bored wrote: »

The Dubs are a wicked cynical, dirty, niggly team that can get very nasty when they are getting beat.

Very Bored

As per usual, criticise Dublin and people jump all over ya. 2011 league final? Give it a rest, come back when ye've won a few All Irelands within living memory.

I never once said Dublin were the only dirty niggly team, I just said that they were such a team. The fact is that they are and I see no reason to change my viewpoint. If a few Dubs on here can't take that its not my problem. That's my final statement on this affair.

Returning to the programme last night, I thought it was a very good point to suggest that the Ring/Rackard and Meagher finals should be played in mid-August.

Gentleman Off The Pitch

Didn't see the Sunday game, just wondering if they highlighted or discussed Nash throwing the hurl in an attempt to save Shanahan's goal?

This is the second time that I've seen Nash do this in a televised match in this season alone.

It's unsurprising, considering who the referee was, that Nash wasn't booked, but recalling the multiple threads in the past on here claiming that this should be a red card offence, surely it is something that should not escape punishment? Or will it take Nash actually saving a shot with a thrown hurl for action to be taken?

Orizio

Gentleman Off The Pitch wrote: »

Didn't see the Sunday game, just wondering if they highlighted or discussed Nash throwing the hurl in an attempt to save Shanahan's goal?

This is the second time that I've seen Nash do this in a televised match in this season alone.

It's unsurprising, considering who the referee was, that Nash wasn't booked, but recalling the multiple threads in the past on here claiming that this should be a red card offence, surely it is something that should not escape punishment? Or will it take Nash actually saving a shot with a thrown hurl for action to be taken?

Pretty sure there is a difference between throwing a hurley at - or in the general direction of someone - and what Nash and others have done.

Although I agree it should be a booking.

Gentleman Off The Pitch

Orizio wrote: »

Pretty sure there is a difference between throwing a hurley at - or in the general direction of someone - and what Nash and others have done.

Although I agree it should be a booking.

Is there? Have there been concrete examples of players throwing hurls at other players in an attempt to strike the body of the player, and maybe hurt them? (In any case, I find the notion that a hurl thrown in the way we typcially see in matches as having the potential to hurt or injury is greatly exaggerated, the optics of the offence are the worst aspect).

In my opinion, while there have been many cases where the hurl was thrown in the direction of the player, there were none that I recall where it couldn't be claimined the aim was to interfere with the player's attempt to strike ball, perform a 'remote' hook or block if you like. I see little distinction between such offences a what Nash is fond of doing, both involve throwing the hurl to intefere with play, both are cheating

Very Bored

It shouldn't be a red card offence but I think the punishment should be heavier than a regular penalty. Maybe a provision for a goal stopped in such a fashion to result in a penalty from closer in. Otherwise, there's very little to stop any goalkeeper from doing it. As a goalkeeper it is relatively easy to avoid getting a yellow card so a goalkeeper could do it, stop a goal, get a yellow safe in the knowledge he won't get another and then the penalty taker misses the penalty effectively leaving his team three points worse off. Its one for the rule makers though as the referees can't impose a punishment that there is no provision for.

citykat

Orizio wrote: »

Pretty sure there is a difference between throwing a hurley at - or in the general direction of someone - and what Nash and others have done.

It wasn't intentional but he actually threw it at the umpire. He had to duck.

harpsman

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Good post-manly stuff as the boys say.

harpsman

See O Hara was on last night-as good as ever!!

He was showing examples of fellas kickin it wide from in front of the posts and criticising them for not passing,calling it poor shot selection but I wouldnt call shooting from in front of the posts poor shot selection-just poor execution imo.

Just An Opinion

Very Bored wrote: »

As per usual, criticise Dublin and people jump all over ya. 2011 league final? Give it a rest, come back when ye've won a few All Irelands within living memory.

I never once said Dublin were the only dirty niggly team, I just said that they were such a team. The fact is that they are and I see no reason to change my viewpoint. If a few Dubs on here can't take that its not my problem. That's my final statement on this affair.

Returning to the programme last night, I thought it was a very good point to suggest that the Ring/Rackard and Meagher finals should be played in mid-August.

Nothing to do with you criticising Dublin it's simply to do with you talking absolute bollocks. Your 'I'm not cocky but we are the shining light' attitude is laughable.

Anyway back on topic, I thought the fly landing on Anthony Daly's head during the evening show last night was excellent

Fireball07

Throwing the hurl is a yellow card offence; Nash should have been booked for it.



Shane O'Neill was also very very lucky to stay on the pitch; on a hello and he smashed straight into Gleeson, definite yellow card offence. He does seem to have a tendency to pick up lots of yellow cards.

Very Bored

Never once said we were the shining light. I know there are times when Kilkenny players overstep the mark, same as any other team, I just believe Dublin take it too far. Had I said that about any other county the comment would likely have been ignored so yes it is a case of not being able to take criticism. I don't see anyone from Cork rushing to jump on anyone for claiming Nash makes a habit of throwing the hurl. I've stated my opinion, you're not going to change it, least of all through insults, so lets do the sensible thing and move on.

Yes, the fly thing was very funny. In fairness the three lads were very quick to have a laugh about it and Anthony Daly took the slagging in good humour. Cahill, who I usually don't like, was very quick with the "spray". That's where RTE coverage excels, at having emotions in the studio, quite unlike the ultra-professionality of the BBC which often appears staid.

keeponhurling

Just An Opinion wrote: »

Anyway back on topic, I thought the fly landing on Anthony Daly's head during the evening show last night was excellent

Yeah, I heard they need a few takes to get it right, but sure those RTE lads are perfectionists

keeponhurling

Thought Donal Og and Daly didn't hold back when analyzing a fairly pathetic Dublin performance.

Especially considering Daly would know those lads, and Donal Og would be fairly close to Ger Cunningham

Realt Dearg Sec

keeponhurling wrote: »

Thought Donal Og and Daly didn't hold back when analyzing a fairly pathetic performance.

Especially considering Daly would know those lads, and Donal Og would be fairly close to Ger Cunningham

Yeah I was shocked that Daly really was straight up about how unacceptable Dublin were and was willing to speculate about the lack of bottle they seem to have when there's expectation around them. He wasn't protecting "his boys" by any means, but wasn't sticking the knife in on anyone either. It was refreshing to see honest analysis where a conflict of interest might have produced an almost understandable reticence.

ciarriaithuaidh

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/munster-council-clamp-down-on-team-analysts-335651.html

Apologies, didn't know where to put this. Basically, yet another example of how out of touch with reality a few GAA heads can be. Munster GAA are seemingly attempting to prohibit video analysis of games under their remit.
A few choice quotes from the article:

"their (Munster GAA) preferred option is for counties to use the live video feed from the RTÉ website." “This feed should suffice" said Munster GAA CEO Simon Moroney...Sweet suffering Jesus, the RTE website feed is appalling. The quality of the picture AND the feed would be nowhere near the standard needed for proper analysis.

The best line of all though is the follow on quote:

"This can be done from the viewing area from either stand. A workbench will not be available but well positioned seats can be arranged once adequate notice is given."
They think it should be no hassle for analysts (along with whatever equipment they use, laptops, GPS etc) to sit in the stand in Thurles, Killarney, Limerick or Páirc ui Rinn? :rolleyes: Are they being dumb or just deliberately obtuse? Imagine a video analyst in any of those grounds with spectators pushing past them, jumping around, waving flags etc..while they are trying to analyse the game and communicate with the sideline..

Once more I find myself wondering if these people are for real?

Realt Dearg Sec

That's just so...gaa...for want of a better word. It particularly comes as no surprise coming from a provincial council official.

Moroney writes: “While technically possible to provide a cabled ‘live feed’ in some locations within certain stadia it raises serious health and safety issues viz a viz the protection of both the patrons and indeed the cable itself en route and the potential disruption if technical failure or other issues arise. There would also be a cost factor falling on the counties requiring same. This option is not therefore permitted.”

Could somebody else figure out what the hell the meaning of that is, because it completely escapes me.

ciarriaithuaidh

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

That's just so...gaa...for want of a better word. It particularly comes as no surprise coming from a provincial council official.

Moroney writes: “While technically possible to provide a cabled ‘live feed’ in some locations within certain stadia it raises serious health and safety issues viz a viz the protection of both the patrons and indeed the cable itself en route and the potential disruption if technical failure or other issues arise. There would also be a cost factor falling on the counties requiring same. This option is not therefore permitted.”

Could somebody else figure out what the hell the meaning of that is, because it completely escapes me.

It's not what he meant, but my personal reading of that is "GAA team preparation and management has moved into the 21st century..GAA administration and many facilities, have not".

I mean that quote about the cable amounts to something akin to a scene from Fr Ted!

Mehapoy

ciarriaithuaidh wrote: »

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/munster-council-clamp-down-on-team-analysts-335651.html

Apologies, didn't know where to put this. Basically, yet another example of how out of touch with reality a few GAA heads can be. Munster GAA are seemingly attempting to prohibit video analysis of games under their remit.
A few choice quotes from the article:

"their (Munster GAA) preferred option is for counties to use the live video feed from the RTÉ website." “This feed should suffice" said Munster GAA CEO Simon Moroney...Sweet suffering Jesus, the RTE website feed is appalling. The quality of the picture AND the feed would be nowhere near the standard needed for proper analysis.

The best line of all though is the follow on quote:

"This can be done from the viewing area from either stand. A workbench will not be available but well positioned seats can be arranged once adequate notice is given."
They think it should be no hassle for analysts (along with whatever equipment they use, laptops, GPS etc) to sit in the stand in Thurles, Killarney, Limerick or Páirc ui Rinn? :rolleyes: Are they being dumb or just deliberately obtuse? Imagine a video analyst in any of those grounds with spectators pushing past them, jumping around, waving flags etc..while they are trying to analyse the game and communicate with the sideline..

Once more I find myself wondering if these people are for real?

The administration and officialdom in the GAA is the only amateur part left...some of these idiots wouldn't have a clue what video analysis would entail, probably thinks it might lead to professionalism or something, you would think they have more pressing matters to deal with, it's all about keeping onto the little bit of power they have...

Fr Tod Umptious

James Last has died.

In case anyone was not aware his tune Jägerlatein was the theme music for The Sunday Game.

He was very popular in Ireland in the 70s

randd1

Fireball07 wrote: »

Throwing the hurl is a yellow card offence; Nash should have been booked for it.



Shane O'Neill was also very very lucky to stay on the pitch; on a hello and he smashed straight into Gleeson, definite yellow card offence. He does seem to have a tendency to pick up lots of yellow cards.

Never gets a red though, that's the problem, he gets away with a hell of a lot. If he was from Dublin, Kilkenny, Tipp, Limerick or Galway with their physical reputation or Clare with their reputation for silly fouls, hed walk every other game.

I don't think he's a dirty player, but commits a lot of yellow card offences (and the odd nasty stroke).

Xenophile

Will the RTE commentary box in Thurles be open on Sunday? If it is and Pat Spillane and Tomas O Se are in there, I think there should be a silent Tipp representative in there a, just to get some idea of what a Kerry panellist is saying ( there are no Tipp people on the panel ).

Four of the panellists will be doing the other live games on Sunday.

Cannot see Pat Spillane take a seat in the stand, I am sure he will have no trouble getting a seat in a press box, if he is at the game and not an analyst!

MisterAnarchy

Is the Armagh Donegal match in HD today?
It looks like upscaled SD to me, very soft picture

Fr Tod Umptious

zetecescort wrote: »

A brand new GAA series, The Marty Squad, will begin on on RTÉ Radio 1 this Sunday.

The programme will take a fresh look at the GAA Championships every Sunday evening from 6pm-7pm.
Presented from match venues all over the country by Marty Morrissey and Paddy McKenna, who will be in Dublin, the show will take a different look at the weekend’s GAA action.
Reporter Brenda Donohue will be on the road at the big matches each weekend talking to fans and sampling the atmosphere.

The squad will be bolstered by weekly appearances from former Roscommon goalkeeper and Connacht championship winner Shane Curran, former Kilkenny All-Ireland winner David Herity and former Cork camogie star Anna Geary. And there’ll be a chance for the real experts – the supporters on the road home – to have their say too.

Morrissey said: “To win an All-Ireland takes a great squad of players… and it’s the same for radio! I am delighted to be part of this new squad and to work for the first time with Paddy McKenna and to renew acquaintances with Brenda Donohue.
“But it’s not about us, it’s about you, your feelings, your joy and your heartbreak as we travel together to Croke Park for the All-Ireland finals.”

Had the misfortune to hear some of this tonight.

Brenda Donoughe interviewing couples from Mayo and Galway, Jesus Christ is was muck

Why can't they just have a comprehensive analysis program like they had with "Take your point" ?
Never mind this attempt at light entertainment

Redsoxfan

Was Marty Morrissey given 'The Marty Squad' as a sop to sooth his battered pride after Joe Brolly's hurtful comments?

There's no other explanation for it IMHO. It is awful ****e altogether.

DDC1990

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Had the misfortune to hear some of this tonight.

Brenda Donoughe interviewing couples from Mayo and Galway, Jesus Christ is was muck

Why can't they just have a comprehensive analysis program like they had with "Take your point" ?
Never mind this attempt at light entertainment

Absolute ****. Turned it off. You have county managers on the line and Shane Curran asking questions like: What's the deal with the fancy boots and What are your tactics for the Cork game.

The couple's thing was horribly cringeworthy.

Nib

Loved that intro from Des Cahill; "On the show tonight we have Dermot Early and Ciaran Whelan, and squashed in the middle is little Tomás O'Sé with his big bundle of All-Ireland medals"

Made me smile anyway.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Interesting that Tomas O'Se refused to patronise Tipp and pat them on the back for getting beaten despite being enticed to do so by Des Cahill.Straight talking no bull**** analysis from him.

OldMrBrennan83

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Nib

Ger Canning looking for a square ball for McNally's goal.

*facepalm*

Poor_old_gill

DDC1990 wrote: »

Absolute ****. Turned it off. You have county managers on the line and Shane Curran asking questions like: What's the deal with the fancy boots and What are your tactics for the Cork game.

The couple's thing was horribly cringeworthy.

I'll choose my words carefully on this subject as otherwise my post will be deleted- but Shane Curran is not up to being a pundit.

Just because some is "character"/acts the clown- RTE assume that he will be entertaining- I think it is embarrassing to see him on tv.

windy shepard henderson

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

I'll choose my words carefully on this subject as otherwise my post will be deleted- but Shane Curran is not up to being a pundit.

Just because some is "character"/acts the clown- RTE assume that he will be entertaining- I think it is embarrassing to see him on tv.

its the same for years there seems to be a number of "character's" from my neck of the woods too i was always under the impression that the producer must own a holiday home down in clare somewhere

icdg

Played out with the original arrangement of the theme tune tonight, a nice touch.

Xenophile

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Interesting that Tomas O'Se refused to patronise Tipp and pat them on the back for getting beaten despite being enticed to do so by Des Cahill.Straight talking no bull**** analysis from him.

Would agree, not alone did he not patronise them, but he did not even give a 3rd Division League team credit for giving Kerry such a good game! Never mentioned Michael Quinlivan and his two goals against Kerry, how many players are going to score two goals against Kerry this year?

Xenophile

Great that Tipperay got a second billing on the Sunday Game tonight, they deserve it!

Dirty Dingus McGee

Xenophile wrote: »

Would agree, not alone did he not patronise them, but he did not even give a 3rd Division League team credit for giving Kerry such a good game! Never mentioned Michael Quinlivan and his two goals against Kerry, how many players are going to score two goals against Kerry this year?

But according to him they didn't really give them a good game.He gave the impression that Kerry coasted in the second half and Tipp really didn't put it up to them then.

nice_guy80

Two of the best games yesterday got so little airtime

Meath v Wicklow
Westmeath v Wexford

joke
What was the point of seeing Galway v Mayo again in such depth?

DDC1990

nice_guy80 wrote: »

Two of the best games yesterday got so little airtime

Meath v Wicklow
Westmeath v Wexford

joke
What was the point of seeing Galway v Mayo again in such depth?

I suppose for people who were at the matches and didn't see them on TV. I was happier seeing more on that game then the Meath v Wicklow game, but that's a personal choice.

klose

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

But according to him they didn't really give them a good game.He gave the impression that Kerry coasted in the second half and Tipp really didn't put it up to them then.

Not a huge football fan but was at the game and Kerry breezed through the second half, took tipp 15 minutes to get their first score of the second half. Kerry took their foot off the gas a bit and tipp had a few more scores so the score line looked better for them in the end but Kerry were never threatened really bar the first 15 where tipp played like men possesed.
13 wides for tipp also which is unforgivable, if half of em went over it would have been a closer affair, Kerry only had 5. Football in tipp is coming along nicely but still has a long way to go.

padd b1975

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Had the misfortune to hear some of this tonight.

Brenda Donoughe interviewing couples from Mayo and Galway, Jesus Christ is was muck

Why can't they just have a comprehensive analysis program like they had with "Take your point" ?
Never mind this attempt at light entertainment

Yep, I caught the first few minutes as well.
What's with Brenda and her need to breathlessly shout into the microphone??
It's pure car crash and nothing short of juvenile.

God help any listeners sitting in the Galway traffic who tuned in to get the national picture on the day's football.....

Fr Tod Umptious

padd b1975 wrote: »

Yep, I caught the first few minutes as well.
What's with Brenda and her need to breathlessly shout into the microphone??
It's pure car crash and nothing short of juvenile.

God help any listeners sitting in the Galway traffic who tuned in to get the national picture on the day's football.....

Exactly
Speaking personally I want to binge on analysis and debate about games in the immediate aftermath of them, whether I have been at the game or seen it on TV.
I want to hear what national pundits, journalists etc have to say about the game, I don't really care what the manager on the bus has to say.
This show does not give me enough of this, neither did 'Second Captains', there is too much BS in them.