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No Man's Sky

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    #482
    CiDeRmAn
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,583 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Who needs to find a planet called "Brians Knob 16#"


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    #483
    SolvableKnave
    Registered Users Posts: 4,470 ✭✭✭SolvableKnave


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Who needs to find a planet called "Brians Knob 16#"

    Me. I'm fat and haven't seen mine in a while :(


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    #484
    CiDeRmAn
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,583 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    SolvableKnave wrote: »
    Me. I'm fat and haven't seen mine in a while :(

    You need to get yourself one of these then

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    #485
    Xenji
    Registered Users Posts: 11,505 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Who needs to find a planet called "Brians Knob 16#"

    When they do, they will have to name a new planet "New Brians Knob 16#"


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    #486
    SolvableKnave
    Registered Users Posts: 4,470 ✭✭✭SolvableKnave


    How ****ing moronic is this?

    No Man's Sky legal dispute


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    #487
    Generic Dreadhead
    Registered Users Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    That is not the issue here Solvable, the games title is blatantly misogynist, sexist and discriminatory :mad:.

    tee-hee-hee


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    #488
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users Posts: 45,537 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Cormac... wrote: »
    That is not the issue here Solvable, the games title is blatantly misogynist, sexist and discriminatory :mad:.

    tee-hee-hee

    "To boldly go, where no person has gone before".

    Darn tootin'.


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    #489
    Niska
    Registered Users Posts: 2,460 ✭✭✭Niska


    SolvableKnave wrote: »
    How ****ing moronic is this?

    No Man's Sky legal dispute

    Guess the first two names they tried were "No man's edge" and "No man's saga"...


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    #490
    Taylor365
    Registered Users Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭Taylor365


    Niska wrote: »
    Guess the first two names they tried were "No man's edge" and "No man's saga"...
    Can't wait for "No Man's Virgin"


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    #491
    Shiminay
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 28,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shiminay


    I think they tried "No Man's Scrolls" too...


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    #492
    Star Lord
    Registered Users Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    No Man Reacts?


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    #493
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    No Man's Plan


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    #494
    SolvableKnave
    Registered Users Posts: 4,470 ✭✭✭SolvableKnave


    No Man's An Island


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    #495
    Zillah
    Registered Users Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Are Sky seriously suing anyone that uses the word sky as part of any product or service? Don't use a single generic fucking noun if you want exclusive use of it you scumbags.


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    #496
    SolvableKnave
    Registered Users Posts: 4,470 ✭✭✭SolvableKnave


    Zillah wrote: »
    Are Sky seriously suing anyone that uses the word sky as part of any product or service? Don't use a single generic fucking noun if you want exclusive use of it you scumbags.

    From the article, yes. And Hello Games weren't the only ones either. It all hinges on the s in sky. Lower case sky, we sue your ass. Upper case Sky, ah who cares. Now, the really weird part of the whole article:
    "We finally settled with Sky (they own the word sky). We can call our game No Man's Sky," he tweeted.

    Hello Games has not revealed whether it paid Sky to settle the lawsuit.

    Sky (The Company) own the word sky (lower case) but not Sky (upper case)


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    #497
    Captain Chaos
    Registered Users Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Zillah wrote: »
    Are Sky seriously suing anyone that uses the word sky as part of any product or service? Don't use a single generic fucking noun if you want exclusive use of it you scumbags.

    Yeah they did it to Microsoft, their Onedrive service was called Skydrive.


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    #498
    Shiminay
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 28,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shiminay


    It's also the nature of copyright law that they *HAVE* to go for anyone who uses it or risk losing their copyright entirely as the next person they fight can say "well you never sued those guys, they're using your name too." I'd say Sky no more wanted to do this than Hello Games did, but that's the fked up nature of these laws.


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    #499
    gizmo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    They also went after them when MS tried to register a trademark for Skype in the EU, claiming that its name and logo is too similar to Sky's own.

    Pretty sure that's well into litigious territory rather than just the required protection of ones trademark, no?


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    #500
    Zillah
    Registered Users Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Shiminay wrote: »
    It's also the nature of copyright law that they *HAVE* to go for anyone who uses it or risk losing their copyright entirely as the next person they fight can say "well you never sued those guys, they're using your name too." I'd say Sky no more wanted to do this than Hello Games did, but that's the fked up nature of these laws.

    Nothing stopping them saying "Dear Hello Games, please find enclosed an agreement between us where we license you to use the word "sky" in the title of your upcoming game for the fee of $1. Please sign and return."

    That way the next sky-user can't show they didn't pursue it because it was done on license.

    I'm not a lawyer but it seems reasonable.

    I do understand the need to protect your trademarks lest you lose them, but honestly, there should be a law blocking people from trademarking generic nouns. The sky is a big thing and belongs to everyone. Sky Broadcasting or Sky TV or Sky Digital Services - something more specific like that, sure, but the word sky from the English language? Get the fudge out. I'm going to start a company called ground.


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    #501
    Shiminay
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    You're not wrong at all Zillah, you'd think people could be grown ups about it and simply come to an agreement where these things didn't waste so much money, but I think you'll find that if the legal profession sniffs a pound to be made, then they'll jump all over it and give the sorts of advice to their clients that only make themselves rich. Never mistake the law in a capitalist society for being fair - it can't be when you have to pay for it. It is never on the side of "the people," only the people paying the bills.


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    #502
    Thargor
    Registered Users Posts: 17,929 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    I did always think Skype was a strange one tbh, it did seem a bit of a rip-off of Skys IP at the time, Im fairly techie and remember assuming it was a Sky property for a long time when it was taking off. No Mans Sky getting sued is a joke though.


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    #503
    Taylor365
    Registered Users Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭Taylor365


    Well, the legals get paid and sky comes off of this looking like utter $hite.

    Win-win for all.


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    #504
    Otacon
    Registered Users Posts: 6,721 ✭✭✭Otacon


    No Man's Sky has gone gold.

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    #505
    Thargor
    Registered Users Posts: 17,929 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Im predicting a boring flop due to chronic repetitiveness, I just dont see how they can avoid it. Hope Im wrong though.


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    #506
    Doodleking
    Registered Users Posts: 135 ✭✭Doodleking


    No Man's Sky def should go VR


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    #507
    Captain Chaos
    Registered Users Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Doodleking wrote: »
    No Man's Sky def should go VR

    No point unless they patch it in later and do a NEO version. PSVR cannot do "proper" games on the PS4 as the console is not powerful enough.

    You need the hardware to catch up first, consoles just aren't there yet to do AAA games in VR.


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    #508
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Yeah but PCs exist...


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    #509
    saneman
    Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭saneman


    Captain Chaos wrote: »
    No point unless they patch it in later and do a NEO version. PSVR cannot do "proper" games on the PS4 as the console is not powerful enough.

    You need the hardware to catch up first, consoles just aren't there yet to do AAA games in VR.

    Sean Murray in a recent interview: "I thing it (VR) would be a really good fit for No Man's Sky...(but) we're a super small team I think everyone would want us just focused on the game and getting it out...". Given Sony's stake in the game and their future VR plans NMS must feature as part of that.

    Certainly what you've said is true for the current PS4 hardware but I wouldn't be surprised to see some form of VR mod/hack for the PC version sometime after release as I think the pace of the game would suit VR really well, it's by no means a "twitchy" first person experience.
    Thargor wrote: »
    Im predicting a boring flop due to chronic repetitiveness, I just dont see how they can avoid it. Hope Im wrong though.

    I think tedium will definitely play it's part in many players moving on before the "end game" (reach centre of galaxy) simply because of it's immense scale, but after how long? After exploring 10 systems, 100, 1000? And would this constitute a flop?

    I imagine it'll be a game I'll purchase but my expectations are suitably curtailed and I think I've a clear sense of what it'll offer (and what it won't).


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    #510
    Zillah
    Registered Users Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    saneman wrote: »
    I imagine it'll be a game I'll purchase but my expectations are suitably curtailed and I think I've a clear sense of what it'll offer (and what it won't).

    This is exactly where I am. I think there will be lots of disappointed people but they'll be the ones who let their imaginations run away with them.


    As for VR: NMS announced a delay of several months around the time Vives and Rifts started shipping in large numbers. I'd make a big wager that this was to enable VR support.

    GUI might be a concern, though. Retrofitting non-VR games for VR is bloody difficult. I tried playing The Solus Project just recently and it was a debacle. Interface was horrible, I didn't last more than a couple of minutes. I'll give it a go again, but after playing made-for-VR games it was really weird going back to point-and-click sort of interfaces, rather than just be able to reach out and grab stuff.


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    #511
    Beefy78
    Registered Users Posts: 8,163 ✭✭✭Beefy78


    Thargor wrote: »
    Im predicting a boring flop due to chronic repetitiveness, I just dont see how they can avoid it. Hope Im wrong though.

    I think it will be about setting expectations. It'll be repetitive in the way that Fifa is repetitive. If you don't like playing a couple of hundred hours of football games you don't buy Fifa. If you don't like putting a couple of hundred hours into exploring the vast emptiness of space you don't buy No Man's Sky.

    There's no complex narrative involved. I applaud the makers of this for trying something different.


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