Unpopular GAA opinions you hold

akelly02

My few:

1. Joe Canning, too much made about him.
2. Mayo seem to have a mental block about winning an All Ireland.
3 Davy Fitzgerald is one of the most hateful people ever, i dread him even though i like the type of Hurling Clare try to play.
4. Offaly are not the worst Hurling County in Ireland

adrian522

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

My point was that rugby is not held to the same high moral standard when it comes to drinks sponsorship.

When the debate about drinks sponsorship comes up, the (lazy) media will be full of indignation about drinks sponsorship within the GAA, when in fact no GAA national competition has had a drinks sponsor for a number of years now.

At the same time there will be little mention of the fact that the biggest club rugby competition, the European Cup, has had a drinks sponsor, and may have one again in it's new format, and in the past the Pro 12 has had a drinks sponsor and will again in the future.

And your point about a government not having much say about a sponsor is invalid also, in France, where sporting events cannot have drinks sponsorship the European Cup was known as ‘The H Cup’

I'm not really getting your point, the whole debate was about drink sponsorship across all sports not specific to GAA, there was as much giving out about Rugby as about GAA.

On the bit in bold there I'd say it validates my point, even in France where sponsorship by drinks companies is illegal it is still called the H-Cup, which everyone understood to mean the Heineken cup so there was little to nothing the government there could do stop the competition being sponsored by a drinks company.

zetecescort

Purely on GAA matters I have a strong dislike of Mickey Harte. His teams are the filthiest, most cynical I have ever had the misfortune of seeing.

keane2097

Purely on non-GAA matters I have a strong dislike for him!

TCDStudent1

akelly02 wrote: »

My few:

1. Joe Canning, too much made about him.
2. Mayo seem to have a mental block about winning an All Ireland.
3 Davy Fitzgerald is one of the most hateful people ever, i dread him even though i like the type of Hurling Clare try to play.
4. Offaly are not the worst Hurling County in Ireland

I think probably only number 1 would be considered unpopular. The others are opinions held by most (I would think).

The problem with Joe Canning is that he has been in a poor Galway team for many years and that has dented his progress. He has not been regularly involved in AI finals, even AI semis.

Nidgeweasel

keane2097 wrote: »

Purely on non-GAA matters I have a strong dislike for him!

Based on?

zetecescort wrote: »

Purely on GAA matters I have a strong dislike of Mickey Harte. His teams are the filthiest, most cynical I have ever had the misfortune of seeing.

Armagh made them look like choir boys.

keane2097

Nidgeweasel wrote: »

Based on?

His decision to provide a character reference for a man who admitted sexually assaulting a woman, while intoxicated, and shoving her half naked out of a stolen van on the side of the road mainly. Guy was from "a good GAA family" apparently. Makes me want to puke every time I think of it, we're all smeared with that ignominy - cheers Mickey.

Wouldn't be overly enamoured with his apparent notions of being a statesman either, between his part in the Quinn dynasty worship and his cosy relationship with the cretins that run Youth Defence.

The fact that he turns up to these morally questionable occasions to be parading in front of people as "renowned GAA person Mickey Harte" before giving his equally morally questionable opinions on matters entirely unrelated to GAA sticks in my gullet.

Having said that, I've heard he's a personable chap and I have the utmost respect for his nous as a GAA manager (although I happen to think his race might be run in that regard as well).

Prop Joe

I think Mikey Harte is a great man,I have a great respect for the man for alot his off field activities

On the field,YES his team were cynical and dirty but by god they were great,He brought so many new things to the gaa and will forever go down as one of the great managers

Nidgeweasel

keane2097 wrote: »

His decision to provide a character reference for a man who admitted sexually assaulting a woman, while intoxicated, and shoving her half naked out of a stolen van on the side of the road.

Wouldn't be overly enamoured with his apparent notions of being a statesman either, between his part in the Quinn dynasty worship and his cosy relationship with the cretins that run Youth Defence.

The fact that he turns up to these morally questionable occasions to be parading in front of people as "renowned GAA person Mickey Harte" before giving his equally morally questionable opinions on matters entirely unrelated to GAA sticks in my gullet.

Having said that, I've heard he's a personable chap and I have the utmost respect for his nous as a GAA manager (although I happen to think his race might be run in that regard as well).

I've met him a few times and found him to be extremely decent.

I didn't take issue with the personal statement but I agree with his association with the quinns. Especially after their collapse. An embarrassment. But a lot of the people up here let themselves down with the defending of that shower.

keane2097

Nidgeweasel wrote: »

I've met him a few times and found him to be extremely decent.

I didn't take issue with the personal statement but I agree with his association with the quinns. Especially after their collapse. An embarrassment. But a lot of the people up here let themselves down with the defending of that shower.

Honestly, I'm 100% sure he is and have heard as much from a lot of people.

Amprodude

Kildare 2011 team missed the boat of.getting to final losing to Donegal. I think they would have beaten Dublin or Kerry if they met them in final.

robbiezero

Amprodude wrote: »

Kildare 2011 team missed the boat of.getting to final losing to Donegal. I think they would have beaten Dublin or Kerry if they met them in final.

Couldn't agree with that at all. They would have had to beat both Dublin and Kerry to win the All-Ireland that year after Donegal in the quarters. I think that was highly unlikely.

Slieveardagh

Eoin Kelly (Tipperary) was a far better hurler in his day than Henry Shefflin

adrian522

Slieveardagh wrote: »

Eoin Kelly (Tipperary) was a far better hurler in his day than Henry Shefflin

Is that not pretty much the very first opinion expressed on this thread?

Maybe not that unpopular after all.

TCDStudent1

adrian522 wrote: »

Is that not pretty much the very first opinion expressed on this thread?

Maybe not that unpopular after all.

Be interesting to know where the 2 posters who share this opinion are from.

RoyalCelt

Amprodude wrote: »

Kildare 2011 team missed the boat of.getting to final losing to Donegal. I think they would have beaten Dublin or Kerry if they met them in final.

I really am devastated with some of the fixtures that could have been. While Dublin / Donegal was interesting from a tactical point of view imagine a Dublin v Kildare AI semi back then when Kildare were at their peak. And it would have been the rematch after Dublin robbed Kildare in the Leinster semi that year.

Another similar match up missed would have been Dublin & Meayh both losing in the AI semi finals in 2007. Imagine the two of them playing in the AI and the rivalry was a lot more intense that year especially after a draw and a replay in front of a full house.

Yellowblackbird

If Kildare had of won the 2011 All-Ireland would they have had the hunger and motivation to go on to be the two-in-a-row O'Byrne Cup champions?

Possibly not.

RoyalCelt

Yellowblackbird wrote: »

If Kildare had of won the 2011 All-Ireland would they have had the hunger and motivation to go on to be the two-in-a-row O'Byrne Cup champions?

Possibly not.

no but they'd certainly be in a better place then they were this year and last year. 2010 was another year they could have gone all the way. they almost beat down and cok were there for the taking. once in a lifetime chances need to be taken but most like kildare slip up. donegal didn't however and i believe that win is what is driving them on to return to the top.

Yellowblackbird

RoyalCelt wrote: »

no but they'd certainly be in a better place then they were this year and last year. 2010 was another year they could have gone all the way. they almost beat down and cok were there for the taking. once in a lifetime chances need to be taken but most like kildare slip up. donegal didn't however and i believe that win is what is driving them on to return to the top.

My comment was a little tongue in cheek. That kildare team were as close to winning an all ireland as garth brooks is to moving into clonliffe road.

Ive always been a firm believer that the score board doesn't lie. The best team is the winner. You can gripe all day about referee decisions, injuries, hops of the ball, the wind changinng...but if you were good enough would have been ahead on the score board.

RoyalCelt

Yellowblackbird wrote: »

My comment was a little tongue in cheek. That kildare team were as close to winning an all ireland as garth brooks is to moving into clonliffe road.

Ive always been a firm believer that the score board doesn't lie. The best team is the winner. You can gripe all day about referee decisions, injuries, hops of the ball, the wind changinng...but if you were good enough would have been ahead on the score board.

dunno if you've heard but it's looking likely garth will play all 5.

Yellowblackbird

RoyalCelt wrote: »

dunno if you've heard but it's looking likely garth will play all 5.

He's not moving in though. House prices are on the rise again.

Fr Tod Umptious

iDave wrote: »

The GAA should tell the do-gooders to take a running jump on alcohol sponsorship. The Guinness Pro 12 is on the way. Will Rugby be held to the same high moral standard I wonder?

It seems not

I could not find any opinion pieces in the three main papers (Times, Independent, Examiner) criticizing the deal.

adrian522

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

It seems not

I could not find any opinion pieces in the three main papers (Times, Independent, Examiner) criticizing the deal.

Well there was a do gooder on the radio giving out about it last night for about a half an hour if that helps !

Fr Tod Umptious

adrian522 wrote: »

Well there was a do gooder on the radio giving out about it last night for about a half an hour if that helps !

yea I'd be surprised all right if the deal announcement went totally unchallenged

what station was it, I'd like to listen back.

adrian522

Not 100%, either Newstalk or todayfm. I'll see if I can find it!

rockbeast

Provincial/AI Winning Captain: "Three cheers for X", is the most patronising and pitiful moment in sport.

CrabRevolution

I remember being younger and when you won or lost U12/13/15 finals you'd hear that and not think much about it, its like a bualadh bos in primary school for someone doing nothing.

Being from Meath I hadnt the pleasure of ever seeing my teams captain getting a major trophy, but then at 15 I attended my first AI hurling final and was shocked to see they gave the same 3 cheers to the losers at the biggest match, at the highest level of a sport.

That said, you'd probably have more people complaining if it were left out than there are complaining that its there at the moment.

BnB

The biggest threat to hurling in this country is not rugby, soccer, emigration, weeemon or booze. It's Gaelic football.

Diarmaid O Sullivan wasn't a dirty full back. He was strong and looked intimidating but at the end of the day he was much more of a hurler that a hatchet man. At times, it was actually his downfall.

megadodge

"Take your points and the goals will come".

So, your team-mate has drawn the goalie and handpasses the ball to you, unmarked 5 yards in front of an empty goal..... go for the point!!! .... and if Providence decides it (cos God knows your own skill level has absolutely nothing to do with it) the goal just might "happen" all of its own accord.

F*ckin retarded.

Nidgeweasel

The Ulster Council building a marquee all seater stadium in andersontown is a pisstake.

RoyalCelt

Nidgeweasel wrote: »

The Ulster Council building a marquee all seater stadium in andersontown is a pisstake.

More like the british crowns sport fund. You can't feel bad about it when you look at it like that. We all love receiving [resents even if we hate the person giving them

nice_guy80

'A good team scores loads of points'

Bull.
A good team will go for the jugular when it gets the chance and slot goal chances.
I hate to see players handpassing the ball over the bar when a goal is on

CurryFlavoured

megadodge wrote: »

"Take your points and the goals will come".

So, your team-mate has drawn the goalie and handpasses the ball to you, unmarked 5 yards in front of an empty goal..... go for the point!!! .... and if Providence decides it (cos God knows your own skill level has absolutely nothing to do with it) the goal just might "happen" all of its own accord.

F*ckin retarded.

My God what used to wreck my head.

Forward is running in 1 v 1 with the keeper, must go for a goal surely....but there's only 10 minutes gone - Take the point sure it's only early days yet!

DoctaDee

nice_guy80 wrote: »

.........I hate to see players handpassing the ball over the bar when a goal is on

On a similar topic, the 2 handed push of the ball into the goal is the most anti-climatic score to watch as a neutral, needless to say if it's yer team you'd care less

freddiek

BnB wrote: »

The biggest threat to hurling in this country is not rugby, soccer, emigration, weeemon or booze. It's Gaelic football.

Diarmaid O Sullivan wasn't a dirty full back. He was strong and looked intimidating but at the end of the day he was much more of a hurler that a hatchet man. At times, it was actually his downfall.

agree with that. its an awful pity that such a primitive game has such a hold over the population, to the detriment of a great sport like hurling.

I'd struggle to watch a full 70 mins of it these days. and that's someone who played a lot of it growing up. way down my list of sports i'd choose to watch on the box.

keane2097

keane2097 wrote: »

"Hurling snobs" are crippled by an inferiority complex masquerading as a superiority complex, hence the need to run football down constantly even though nobody cares what they think.

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Mal-Adjusted

These days, it seems to be a fairly unpopular thing to say that i really like football too...

iDave

Mal-Adjusted wrote: »

These days, it seems to be a fairly unpopular thing to say that i really like football too...

I fcuking love football

WesternZulu

Football is better in my opinion.

Scores are harder and arguably more skillful to get in football.

It's far from a primitive sport but the way some of the media go on you'd swear that all you need is to be over 6ft and fit and off you go you can play county.

nice_guy80

iDave wrote: »

I fcuking love football

you need to watch Cavan in action.
that would drain your will to live

iDave

nice_guy80 wrote: »

you need to watch Cavan in action.
that would drain your will to live

No watching Cavan lose makes me LOL















Just kidding Lemlin

Tom Joad

blackwhite

DoctaDee wrote: »

On a similar topic, the 2 handed push of the ball into the goal is the most anti-climatic score to watch as a neutral, needless to say if it's yer team you'd care less

Actually, I generally think of it as a sign of an excellently worked team goal.

If a team can manage to work the ball to within 3/4 yards of the opponents goal, and managed to get a man free to apply to coup de grace, then there's usually a pretty decent bit of football and interplay in the buildup.

iDave

Tom Joad wrote: »

Good comeback.

Looking forward to the next round of the championship?

Tom Joad

iDave wrote: »

Good comeback.

Looking forward to the next round of the championship?

Yes, can't wait as Leinster champions I'd say we have a great chance of making the all-ireland final.

I assume you mean the junior championship?

DoctaDee

blackwhite wrote: »

Actually, I generally think of it as a sign of an excellently worked team goal.

If a team can manage to work the ball to within 3/4 yards of the opponents goal, and managed to get a man free to apply to coup de grace, then there's usually a pretty decent bit of football and interplay in the buildup.

My point exactly, the general play leading to the goal tends to be of high quality but far from a coup de grace the 2 handed push into the goal isn't in keeping with the build up play

laois gael

Michael dara McCauley is an average footballer that is just extremely fit, don't think he should have got POTY.

THIS

He can't even solo the ball properly looks like a Basketballer/rugby player that spends all his time on Protein Shakes and in the Gym(fair Play)to make up for the fact he has close to Zero natrual football skills..

still very effective but player of the year???Not for me!

Mal-Adjusted

WesternZulu wrote: »

scores are...arguably more skillful to get in football.

in fairness, you'd need to do a hell of a lot of arguing to make that anywhere near true.

DoctaDee

laois gael wrote: »

Michael dara McCauley is an average footballer that is just extremely fit, don't think he should have got POTY.

THIS

He can't even solo the ball properly looks like a Basketballer/rugby player that spends all his time on Protein Shakes and in the Gym(fair Play)to make up for the fact he has close to Zero natrual football skills..

still very effective but player of the year???Not for me!

He'll be heartbroken ...

blackwhite

laois gael wrote: »

Michael dara McCauley is an average footballer that is just extremely fit, don't think he should have got POTY.

THIS

He can't even solo the ball properly looks like a Basketballer/rugby player that spends all his time on Protein Shakes and in the Gym(fair Play)to make up for the fact he has close to Zero natrual football skills..

still very effective but player of the year???Not for me!

MacAuley may not be the most gifted in terms of ball skills, but he is one of the most intelligent players playing the game. His positional sense is second to none, and his running off the ball (in particular in creating easy options for kick-outs) is incredibly good.

You can be fitter than everyone else but, unless you know how to use it to your advantage, you'll only be an average player at best.