Unpopular GAA opinions you hold

Miccoli

Prop Joe wrote: »

Yeah sure look at Dublin last year

Beat Westmeath
The chokers Kildare
Div 3 Meath
Cork under Counihan
An old Kerry team
and Mayo who collapsed as per usual

Not to mention they played all there games at home.

HANDY

Oh and not to forget Tyrone in 2008 (One of the best teams to ever win an all-ireland)

Lost to Down 1st round
Beat Louth
Westmeath
The collapsers Mayo
A ****e Dublin
WEXFORD - Feckin WEXFORD in an AI semi
and Kerry who we all know only got there coz of there handy route,Plus they were never a great team coz they never proved themselves

Still quite sensitive you got a good beating by Tyrone 3 times in a row I see.

NavyandBlue

I quite like Ger Canning's voice and I feel it would be strange to watch an All-Ireland Final without listening to him (even if other commentators may be more accurate.)

OldMrBrennan83

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ProudDUB

savannahkat wrote: »

In a sport that does not lend itself to excitement I think Dublin are and always were the most entertaining Gaelic football team to watch. I love it when they beat Kerry and Cork especially.

Oddly enough, SO DO WE !!! :D:D

Especially Kerry.

Dunno what you mean by football not lending itself to excitement? I've been to & watched many a cracker. My heart still isn't isn't quite back to normal after last years epic semi final against Kerry. Granted watching two ultra defensive teams grit out a 0-8 to 0-6 result, may not set the world on fire, but not every game is like that.

keane2097

I always cheer for Dublin when Kerry aren't playing.

homewardbound11

Prop Joe wrote: »

From the dual county that is Mayo :rolleyes:

That is changing too in mayo.

keane2097

"Hurling snobs" are crippled by an inferiority complex masquerading as a superiority complex, hence the need to run football down constantly even though nobody cares what they think.

MacBizzle

ProudDUB wrote: »

Dunno what you mean by football not lending itself to excitement? I've been to & watched many a cracker. My heart still isn't isn't quite back to normal after last years epic semi final against Kerry. Granted watching two ultra defensive teams grit out a 0-8 to 0-6 result, may not set the world on fire, but not every game is like that.

That was by far the best inter-county match last year, over both codes. Football is great when it's free-flowing, pity it doesn't happen more often though.

homewardbound11

ultrapercy wrote: »

They were not much better, they were marginally better as reflected by the one point victory after a replay. McHale deserved to be sent off, for stupidity if nothing else but the referee punished one side more than the other by not sending off a player of equal value for Meath and he had at least 10 to choose from. Meath would still have won.
My unpopular opinion is that GAA fans, particularly those who never played the games or played them poorly, are incapable of objective rational thought or maybe any thought at all.

Strongly disagree. Colm coyle was hardly in the same league of importance as mchale.

savannahkat

Anything to do with hurling is an art including being a snob.

Kilkenny have every right to be arrogant, being anything else would be to understate our greatness.

He is not called Henry the 8th or the 7th or the 6th or the 5th or the 4th or the 3d or the 2nd or the 1st. He is Henry the 9thhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh soon enough to be Henry the 10thhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

ciarriaithuaidh

Miccoli wrote: »

Well ahead of armagh at half time in 02 and lost
favourites against Tyrone in 03 and lost , lost in 05 again and were hot favourites in 08 again and lost again after being well ahead.
Probably the worst collapse ever against Dublin in 2011.

Alot of there all ireland wins were very handy.

4 points ahead of Armagh in 2002...2 kicks of a ball is NOT "well ahead".
Well beaten by a better Tyrone team in 2003.
2005 final was a top notch game,best final I've seen.
Kerry were never well ahead in 2008, so you're wrong again. Leading by 1 at halftime.
You then mentioned 2011, but you were talking about the 2000's..tying yourself up in knots.

MacBizzle

savannahkat wrote: »

Anything to do with hurling is an art including being a snob.

Kilkenny have every right to be arrogant, being anything else would be to understate our greatness.

He is not called Henry the 8th or the 7th or the 6th or the 5th or the 4th or the 3d or the 2nd or the 1st. He is Henry the 9thhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh soon enough to be Henry the 10thhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

If I was from Kilkenny I'd be embarrassed by your carry on...

CurryFlavoured

Great thread.

Kieran Donaghy is one of the most overrated players in recent times. He was brilliant back in the day, but he's been average for years and should have been dropped long before last season.

Dubs 2011 were the worst AI winning team in a long time.

GBXI

I love these "unpopular opinion" threads online because you very quickly see who the people are who haven't a clue what they're talking about.

Like the poster(s) above who reckons Cluxton is over-rated because he doesn't make many saves or isn't great under the high ball. He doesn't make many saves because he doesn't have to - he has a very good defence on front of him. He might not be perfect under the high ball, but given his average height, he is still very good. And the reason he will go down as the greatest keeper of all time is because he has nearly revolutionised the game of football with his kick-outs. He is an incredibly gifted passer of the ball from tee, ground, or hand. He has raised the bar for all other goalies - not sure there's higher praise you can give a player.

Anyway, my unpopular opinion (not sure how unpopular it is though) is that modern day Gaelic football, at inter-county level, is incredibly entertaining, particularly when the top teams play each other.

You hear a lot of people give out about it, how they feel negative, defensive tactics are ruining the game, but I think it's simply evolving and it's evolving into something very entertaining. For example, and this is coming from a Mayo-man, the Donegal AI winning team of 2 years ago were one of the most entertaining teams to win an AI. They defended in numbers and attacked at pace in numbers - skillful, fast, tactically-astute, football. And that is now the way all top teams are trying to play - because it's the most effective. Mayo, Donegal, Dublin, Cork, Kerry, Tyrone - they are leading the pack and I find it's excellent to watch.

adrian522

MacBizzle wrote: »

That was by far the best inter-county match last year, over both codes. Football is great when it's free-flowing, pity it doesn't happen more often though.

By far?

Cork v Dublin
Clare v Cork (both All Ireland finals)
Kilkenny v Tipp
Limerick v Tipp
Kilkenny v Waterford
Limerick v Clare

It was Far better than all those games?

I don't think so. Last year was the best year I can remember for hurling, all the above games were excellent.

Stereomaniac

Waterford vs. Kilkenny last year was the best game.

ultrapercy

homewardbound11 wrote: »

Strongly disagree. Colm coyle was hardly in the same league of importance as mchale.

Read my post again, thats exactly my point.

andyman

Kilkenny v Waterford contained a serious lack of basic skill though. Entertaining, but in terms of skill the quality was so poor.

Dublin vs Kerry had everything.

adrian522

andyman wrote: »

Kilkenny v Waterford contained a serious lack of basic skill though. Entertaining, but in terms of skill the quality was so poor.

Dublin vs Kerry had everything.

In what sense was it lacking skill? Some of the most skillful players in the country on show.

CurryFlavoured

McAuley is a little overrated and shouldn't have won POTY last year, Lee Keegan should have.

Marc O'Sé is the best of the 3 O'Sés but he plays the least fashionable position.

MacBizzle

adrian522 wrote: »

By far?

Cork v Dublin - Ignoring Cork because I'm from there, bias etc.
Clare v Cork (both All Ireland finals) - See above,
Kilkenny v Tipp - I thought this was quite poor?
Limerick v Tipp - Didn't get to see this game tbh
Kilkenny v Waterford - Really? Waterford should have been well out of it, the ref's the only reason it was as close as it was imo
Limerick v Clare - Too one sided

It was Far better than all those games?

I don't think so. Last year was the best year I can remember for hurling, all the above games were excellent.

See the quote for my opinions^^^^^^

In terms of quality I thought the Dublin vs. Kerry game was far better than all of those.

Cork were shocking in the first final, not as bad in the second but still weren't near as good as Clare. The Dublin/Cork match was messy at times.

Last year was a great year entertainment wise for hurling but the quality wasn't near as good as previous years.

Tbh if you asked me my favourite hurling game from last year it would have been Cork vs. Kilkenny.

savannahkat

MacBizzle wrote: »

If I was from Kilkenny I'd be embarrassed by your carry on...

Well the thread does say unpopular opinion, it never said sane, rational or well thought out not even mature.

NavyandBlue

CurryFlavoured wrote: »

Great thread.

Dubs 2011 were the worst AI winning team in a long time.

What about the Cork team the year before that struggled to beat a Down team that has done absolutely nothing since?

Fr Tod Umptious

In recent years Kerry are NOT a different animal when they get to Croke Park.

Sine 09 they have only beaten Mayo, Limerick and Cavan.
They have lost to
Down, Donegal and Dublin x 2.

Yet you will hear it all summer 'wait till Kerry get to Croke park bla bla bla.....'

MacBizzle

NavyandBlue wrote: »

What about the Cork team the year before that struggled to beat a Down team that has done absolutely nothing since?

That was more to do with a joke of a manager tbf, although I don't see the logic behind the Dubs in 2011 being the worst winners in a long while, I thought they were at really good team.

blackwhite

GBXI wrote: »

I love these "unpopular opinion" threads online because you very quickly see who the people are who haven't a clue what they're talking about.

Like the poster(s) above who reckons Cluxton is over-rated because he doesn't make many saves or isn't great under the high ball. He doesn't make many saves because he doesn't have to - he has a very good defence on front of him. He might not be perfect under the high ball, but given his average height, he is still very good. And the reason he will go down as the greatest keeper of all time is because he has nearly revolutionised the game of football with his kick-outs. He is an incredibly gifted passer of the ball from tee, ground, or hand. He has raised the bar for all other goalies - not sure there's higher praise you can give a player.

Anyway, my unpopular opinion (not sure how unpopular it is though) is that modern day Gaelic football, at inter-county level, is incredibly entertaining, particularly when the top teams play each other.

You hear a lot of people give out about it, how they feel negative, defensive tactics are ruining the game, but I think it's simply evolving and it's evolving into something very entertaining. For example, and this is coming from a Mayo-man, the Donegal AI winning team of 2 years ago were one of the most entertaining teams to win an AI. They defended in numbers and attacked at pace in numbers - skillful, fast, tactically-astute, football. And that is now the way all top teams are trying to play - because it's the most effective. Mayo, Donegal, Dublin, Cork, Kerry, Tyrone - they are leading the pack and I find it's excellent to watch.

Cluxton will go down as one of the best of the modern era - no doubt about it.
BUT, a lot of the credit that he gets for his kick-outs should also be given to his midfield and half-back/half-forward lines.
Cluxton often struggles when he's forced to pick out a man in tight space (as Laois showed last weekend).
The success of Cluxton's kick-outs is largely down to the space created, and by the quality of movement and runs from the midfielders. It's not the hardest thing in the world to deliver a placed ball into 30/40 yards of space.

Where Cluxton does deserves most of the credit is, from what I've been told, he is largely responsible for Dublin adopting this system as he was the one who suggested adopting it as the way they could nearly guarantee possession from restarts, instead of midfield having to contest a high ball.

rebel girl 15

Lads and ladies, I can see this thread getting out of hand, so I want to limit the posts to posting unpopular opinions, without debate if that person is right or wrong - if people hold that opinion then they can do so, without being attacked for it. Some interesting posts coming out - but I don't want it to get into slagging matches between people - if that happens we'll just lock it. Any highly insulting posts without reason/trolling type posts particularly about fans and players will be deleted and the posters punished appropriately

CurryFlavoured

MacBizzle wrote: »

That was more to do with a joke of a manager tbf, although I don't see the logic behind the Dubs in 2011 being the worst winners in a long while, I thought they were at really good team.

I agree with this. They struggled to win it but had a very strong team - Canty, Murphy, O'Neill, Goulding, Kerrigan, Shields. They had a great panel and that should have been the start of a team challenging for multiple AIs, Counihan ruined them though.

MacBizzle

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

Lads and ladies, I can see this thread getting out of hand, so I want to limit the posts to posting unpopular opinions, without debate - if people hold that opinion then they can do so, without being attacked for it. Some interesting posts coming out - but I don't want it to get into slagging matches between people - if that happens we'll just lock it. Any highly insulting posts without reason/trolling type posts particularly about fans and players will be deleted and the posters punished appropriately

Does discussion = debate? As in, can we comment on an opinion without being argumentative, or is it now simply a case of posting just unpopular opinions and nothing else?

rebel girl 15

MacBizzle wrote: »

Does discussion = debate? As in, can we comment on an opinion without being argumentative, or is it now simply a case of posting just unpopular opinions and nothing else?

You can discuss without being argumentative, if things get argumentative, we go down the second route of just opinion and no place to agree or disagree nicely. Any person using it to be a WUM is banned.

I've just clarified the warning, should have read it again before posting