Has work on new Central Bank Spencer Dock started?

JTMan

skimpydoo wrote: »

When does the above start being built?

It is still at planning stage.

I would guess Q4 2015.

cgcsb

It's inside the Docklands Special Development Zone so planning won't take very long. ABP and DCC won't accept objections so long as the design adheres to the development plan.

subpar

The site that Oxley are to develop is very large over 5 acres and is a combination of 2 adjoining sites that were taken over by NAMA.

NAMA are also to provide Dublin City Council with 10 million euro to fund the provision of a new pedestrian bridge across the liffey between the Toll Bridge and the James Joyce Bridge.

All in all these developments and their associated shops / Restaurants etc will transform the lower north docklands

JTMan

cgcsb wrote: »

It's inside the Docklands Special Development Zone so planning won't take very long. ABP and DCC won't accept objections so long as the design adheres to the development plan.

Planning, even inside the SDZ, could take 6 months+

Then time need to be assigned to site preparation, construction provider selection etc.

JTMan

subpar wrote: »

NAMA are also to provide Dublin City Council with 10 million euro to fund the provision of a new pedestrian bridge across the liffey between the Toll Bridge and the James Joyce Bridge.

There are 3 new bridges going in.

2 bridges, along the liffey, between the Toll Bridge and the James Joyce Bridge.

A third bridge at the mouth of the river Dodder.

Kermit.de.frog

Looks like there is a part of the design up on the building



(panels on the left near the bottom)

JTMan

That has been like that for a few weeks now. Proper construction is still several months away.

MJohnston

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Looks like there is a part of the design up on the building



(panels on the left near the bottom)

bit of a better view of this stolen from Twitter:

FreudianSlippers

That's gonna look so dated, so quickly.

MJohnston

Still hasn't progressed beyond that - were they trying out samples or something??

JTMan

More delays. Construction was supposed to start in March. Does anyone know when the builders will arrive?

hfallada

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

That's gonna look so dated, so quickly.

Well its a highly energy efficient finish they are putting on it. Its supposed to save money on AC and heat in during the winter. There is a very few buildings built since the 1930s, that are ageless. Everything will look dated eventually.

But its nice to see energy efficiency being a priority for once. There is so many state buildings, that are so wasteful due to poor finishes on them.

subpar

I am reliably informed that construction will start in June.

Pete_Cavan

Contractor appointed and works started;

http://www.centralbank.ie/about-us/newbuilding/Pages/Ournewbuilding.aspx

The Bank formally appointed Walls Construction Ltd. as Main Contractor for the new building on 13th April 2015. Construction works have commenced and the Bank anticipates to commence occupation in the new building in late 2016.

It will be great to have this symbol of the crash removed and the final building will be a nice addition to the Docklands.

JTMan

Construction works have commenced

Has anyone noticed construction work?

Itsallrelative

A crane went up there this week and there's a bit of activity going on!

Peregrine

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=515490&page=79

See Joe King's picture at the end.

subpar

Some very interesting detail regarding how the north wall quay will look in the next 2 -3 years

Major development planned on Dublin docklands site
Dublin City Council’s permission sought for Nama-backed Project Wave on northside

Construction on Dublin’s northside docklands. Photograph: Sara Freund/The Irish Times
Construction on Dublin’s northside docklands. Photograph: Sara Freund/The Irish Times
Olivia Kelly


An Bord Pleanála
Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 01:00
First published:
Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 01:00


Planning permission has been sought for the first phase of one of the largest developments planned for Dublin’s docklands under Dublin City Council’s new fast-track planning scheme.
Project Wave, a commercial and residential development on the north side of the River Liffey, will take up 10 per cent of all the development land available in the Docklands Strategic Development Zone (SDZ) and provide in excess of 50,000sq m of office and commercial space, and more than 250 apartments.

The cranes are back and construction around the docklands continues on North Wall Quay.
The Nama-backed scheme is on a 2.2 hectare site on North Wall Quay, which wraps around the new headquarters of the Central Bank of Ireland, currently being built from the shell of the abandoned Anglo Irish Bank headquarters.
Nama did not respond to queries about the total cost of the development.
Significant attention
The site, formerly owned by developer Liam Carroll, had attracted the attention of parties including Johnny Ronan, the former head of Treasury Holdings and Denis O’Brien.
However, last December Nama chose a team of Singapore developer Oxley Holdings and Seán Mulryan’s Ballymore Properties to develop the land.
Under the terms of the transaction, the group led by Oxley will acquire a long leasehold interest with the right to develop, manage and realise the site.
Nama will retain the freehold interest and will receive a secure income stream in addition to a percentage of any future sales proceeds.
70/30 mix
The SDZ, the council’s fast-track planning scheme approved by An Bord Pleanála last year, sets a mix of 70 per cent commercial and 30 per cent residential for the site.
The development will be completed in three phases. The first phase, which is now under consideration by the city planners, will involve the construction of two interlinked office blocks of seven and nine storeys, immediately adjacent to the Central Bank.
Oxley is headed up by former Singapore police officer Ching Chiat Kwong, who has, according to Fortune magazine, a net worth of €770 million.
Mr Kwong made his name in Singapore as the “Shoebox King” for developing compact apartments.
However, Project Wave will have to comply with the SDZ scheme as well as the Dublin City Development Plan which set a minimum size of 55sq m for a one-bedroom unit.
Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 01:00
First published:
Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 01:00

MagicMarker

Pete_Cavan wrote: »

Contractor appointed and works started;

http://www.centralbank.ie/about-us/newbuilding/Pages/Ournewbuilding.aspx





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That looks hideous.

Reuben1210

I was walking by the central bank site today, and the pace of work has really picked up! They are very deep down making huge foundations....and that new development being built around it will be huge too!!! Unfortunate yet again about the heights!!..


Why is there a restriction in the bloody docklands??!
This will be seriously regretted in the years to come....

technocrat

subpar wrote: »

Some very interesting detail regarding how the north wall quay will look in the next 2 -3 years

Major development planned on Dublin docklands site
Dublin City Council’s permission sought for Nama-backed Project Wave on northside

Construction on Dublin’s northside docklands. Photograph: Sara Freund/The Irish Times
Construction on Dublin’s northside docklands. Photograph: Sara Freund/The Irish Times
Olivia Kelly


An Bord Pleanála
Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 01:00
First published:
Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 01:00


Planning permission has been sought for the first phase of one of the largest developments planned for Dublin’s docklands under Dublin City Council’s new fast-track planning scheme.
Project Wave, a commercial and residential development on the north side of the River Liffey, will take up 10 per cent of all the development land available in the Docklands Strategic Development Zone (SDZ) and provide in excess of 50,000sq m of office and commercial space, and more than 250 apartments.

The cranes are back and construction around the docklands continues on North Wall Quay.
The Nama-backed scheme is on a 2.2 hectare site on North Wall Quay, which wraps around the new headquarters of the Central Bank of Ireland, currently being built from the shell of the abandoned Anglo Irish Bank headquarters.
Nama did not respond to queries about the total cost of the development.
Significant attention
The site, formerly owned by developer Liam Carroll, had attracted the attention of parties including Johnny Ronan, the former head of Treasury Holdings and Denis O’Brien.
However, last December Nama chose a team of Singapore developer Oxley Holdings and Seán Mulryan’s Ballymore Properties to develop the land.
Under the terms of the transaction, the group led by Oxley will acquire a long leasehold interest with the right to develop, manage and realise the site.
Nama will retain the freehold interest and will receive a secure income stream in addition to a percentage of any future sales proceeds.
70/30 mix
The SDZ, the council’s fast-track planning scheme approved by An Bord Pleanála last year, sets a mix of 70 per cent commercial and 30 per cent residential for the site.
The development will be completed in three phases. The first phase, which is now under consideration by the city planners, will involve the construction of two interlinked office blocks of seven and nine storeys, immediately adjacent to the Central Bank.
Oxley is headed up by former Singapore police officer Ching Chiat Kwong, who has, according to Fortune magazine, a net worth of €770 million.
Mr Kwong made his name in Singapore as the “Shoebox King” for developing compact apartments.
However, Project Wave will have to comply with the SDZ scheme as well as the Dublin City Development Plan which set a minimum size of 55sq m for a one-bedroom unit.
Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 01:00
First published:
Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 01:00

Serious lack of ambition here.
The city is crying out for new homes yet only 250 apartments are planned for this large site.
Density heights should be at least double what is planned for.
Not only would this provide much needed extra homes but also give the docklands skyline a bit of variety rather than the crew cut 6/7 story bland monotony!

FreudianSlippers

All about a quarter of the height they should be. Can we contest planning permission on the basis they're too short? :pac:

cgcsb

The Docklands presented an oportunity to expand the city sustainably that we'll never get again. Barcelona had this opportunity 100 years ago and they made a very good stab at it with the l'eixample. The height restrictions we've imposed on ourselves will doom another generation to commuting from the midlands. 15 floors should be a minimum height in the SDZ, anything smaller is a waste of precious city centre land. Our next opportunity will be when it comes time to redevelop the old IFSC around George's Dock. The AIB centre could easily tripple it's height without anyone worrying about shadows.

FreudianSlippers

cgcsb wrote: »

The Docklands presented an oportunity to expand the city sustainably that we'll never get again. Barcelona had this opportunity 100 years ago and they made a very good stab at it with the l'eixample. The height restrictions we've imposed on ourselves will doom another generation to commuting from the midlands. 15 floors should be a minimum height in the SDZ, anything smaller is a waste of precious city centre land. Our next opportunity will be when it comes time to redevelop the old IFSC around George's Dock. The AIB centre could easily tripple it's height without anyone worrying about shadows.

I'm actually not against capped heights. I just think that the cap should be 30-35 floors in the docklands and 10-15 floors in the "historic core".

cgcsb

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

I'm actually not against capped heights. I just think that the cap should be 30-35 floors in the docklands and 10-15 floors in the "historic core".

oh of course, a height cap in an irish sense just means squat height

Idbatterim

Its not just the height and density, there need to be smaller cheaper unites allowed, 35-40sq m and forget this dual aspect BS! A total waste of prime land and a joke is what is going, the architecture down there is appalling rubbish... Look at the Kennedy Wilson "tower" proposal, its absolute rubbish. The previous u2 tower and norman foster design, looked great...

newacc2015

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

I'm actually not against capped heights. I just think that the cap should be 30-35 floors in the docklands and 10-15 floors in the "historic core".

There is councillors in DCC, who think anything more than 5 is excessive. Personally I think the council should be banned from deciding on larger scale projects. They appear to give into every single concern an objector has.

DIT Grangegorman wants to build 7 storey apartment blocks, (LMU in Munich has a few 20-25 storey apartment blocks for its students, with a bar at the very top overlooking the entire city). The indepdent councillor in this article needs his head examined http://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/dublin-city-council-has-serious-concerns-over-dit-student-complex-1.2319003

He believe DIGS are the solution for student accommodation. They haven't worked in the last decade. But they are suddenly going to reduce the need for purpose built student accommodation.

Idbatterim

The indepdent councillor in this article needs his head examined http://www.irishtimes.com/news/educa...plex-1.2319003

the problem is, that these independent councillors go looking for votes every few years, of course they are going to tell the existing residents, what they want to hear, whether they themselves agree with it or not...

rip off accommodation and land prices led us to the crisis and this unsustainable urban sprawl and crap infrastructure here are further exacerbated by it...

Reuben1210

Construction update:

Panels being fixed onto building, and basement at an advanced stage!

subpar

Thanks for the update , good to see.