Brazil - Croatia match thread

q2ice

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Wish they would have the added time up top

It was on rte

comongethappy

abelard wrote: »

Despite the referee, I still think Brazil were just about worth the win. Having said that they will definitely need to step it up later on!

Yeah, they probably shaded it, though Croatia passed better & had a better shape.

Costly midfield slip ups & their keeper cost them badly though.

Credit to the Croatian fans as well.
Didn't think they would be there in the numbers they were.

ThunbergsAreGo

Don think Lucas made the squad?

Shanotheslayer

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Original Ronaldo now would do a better job than Fred for Brazil... If I was the manager I'd stick Hulk up front and bring in Lucas or Willian on the wing and send Fred back to the dole office.

It be tough to bring Lucas in seeing as he's not in the squad.

OctavarIan

I think Brazil will grow into it as the tournament goes on. Doesn't excuse that match though. I really hope this is the last major tournament without video replays for big decisions. There's no argument against it as far as I'm concerned.

[edit] Can't see the facepalming world cup logo that shows up before replays ever getting old. Was in fits of laughter after it came up again and again after Brazil's O.G.

Ref let his nerves get to him, Croatia were undone tonight by him, Brazil were lucky. Penalty decision was awful. And the challenge on the keeper was a fair one.

RobertKK

I hope Croatia go further than Brazil, and the Croatian goalkeeper learns how to keep balls out of the net.

Gringo180

Croatia impressed me. Maybe they showed Brazil a bit too much respect tonight. There keeper is awful he must be about 40 now is he. Hes been around an awful long time.

Shanotheslayer

the_monkey wrote: »

How many people did Sep Blatter MURDER to get this tournament ??

Like all the slaves he is MURDERING in Qatar ??

Jesus man how much money did you lose :pac: Really taking this to heart

.jacksparrow.

q2ice wrote: »

It was on rte

I mean telling us the added minutes as in 4 minutes.

String

ITV studio windows has cracks from protesters outside

Mickeroo

Can't see brazil going all the way, looked very poor going forward.

Son Of A Vidic

I hear you're a racist now Bill.

secman

Ref had a piss poor match

Barely There

Anyone else watching this on itv?

Studio's been pelted by stones.

Washington Irving

Croatia very hard done by, hope they can qualify from the group. Great game up to the penalty decision.

RobertKK

String wrote: »

ITV studio windows has cracks from protesters outside

Was their coverage that bad?

:P

YFlyer

Jayus Bill

Darkglasses

Ah well, at least we got some drama. Night all

String

RobertKK wrote: »

Was their coverage that bad?

:P

Its fairly poor to be fair, Keane along side Vieira would of been a lot more interesting!

Adamocovic

Barely There wrote: »

Anyone else watching this on itv?

Studio's been pelted by stones.

They think it's because of the riots about the world cup, I reckon it's protesting against their poor broadcasting!

RoryMac

RobertKK wrote: »

Remember referee already had called a foul by Croatia on Julio Cesar, which was a clear chance for Croatia.
It wasn't a free.

To be fair that kind of challenge on a keeper is given as a foul 9 times out of 10 in every league

Adamocovic

If Roy was in the ITV studio I'd say he go down and give the police a hand against the lads throwing stones

Mickeroo

Mickeroo wrote: »

Can't see brazil going all the way, looked very poor going forward.

Neymar had to drop deep, think this will catch them out against better opposition

Fred and hulk are awful

CountyHurler

Barely There wrote: »

Anyone else watching this on itv? Studio's been pelted by stones.

Is it Roy keane looking for his job back?

Talib Fiasco

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

It be tough to bring Lucas in seeing as he's not in the squad.

Jees yeah now that I think of it I remember that now the lad was in an awful way over it...that just takes the biscuit. Meh I'm confident Brazil will pay for having such a reliance on players like Neymar and Oscar. If one of them misses a game they're rightly f*cked.

Son Of A Vidic

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Brilliant by Oscar who fully deserved the goal and I'm delighted for him even if he did wreck my 2-1 bet

Beautiful goal alright, completely caught the keeper with the early foot flick and no leg pull back. Romario was a master of the foot flick, he always dummied keepers because it was so brilliantly disguised.

Gbear

OctavarIan wrote: »

I think Brazil will grow into it as the tournament goes on. Doesn't excuse that match though. I really hope this is the last major tournament without video replays for big decisions. There's no argument against it as far as I've concerned.

If you look at their squad, you'd have to wonder where that growth is going to come from.

Brazil look like a decent collection of players who've never trained together and have no manager. There's so little cohesion or intelligence to their play.

It just seems to be the way a lot of them are made - maybe doing things off the cuff is just too ingrained in their culture. The only player who seems like he can play with any modicum of sense in the front 2 thirds is Oscar.

With his natural flair and, seemingly, footballing wisdom well beyond his years, he's going to be an incredible player when he fully matures.

RoryMac

Is apres match on tonight?

blueser

Washington Irving wrote: »

Croatia very hard done by, hope they can qualify from the group. Great game up to the penalty decision.

Not with that goalkeeper, they won't. Abysmal.

adamski8

blueser wrote: »

Not with that goalkeeper, they won't. Abysmal.

What exactly did he do wrong? Nearly saved a peno, caught numerous balls into the box, neymar scored through a few players right into the corner and he was caught out by a beautiful shot into the bottom corner by oscar

YFlyer

RoryMac wrote: »

Is apres match on tonight?

Hope so

Son Of A Vidic

This game has done nothing to dispel my concerns, that this is probably the worst Brazilian team I can remember since I became a Brazil fan in 1982.

tayto lover

That Brazil side is not good enough to win the World Cup.
Not impressed at all.

Soups123

Only ITV or BBC could spend more time on England rather than discussing the match we just seen

adamski8

adamski8 wrote: »

What exactly did he do wrong? Nearly saved a peno, caught numerous balls into the box, neymar scored through a few players right into the corner and he was caught out by a beautiful shot into the bottom corner by oscar

He was poor for both the first and the third goal.

vidor

Soups123 wrote: »

Only ITV or BBC could spend more time on England rather than discussing the match we just seen

Tbf RTE do the same when Ireland are involved.

Son Of A Vidic

String wrote: »

Keane along side Vieira would of been a lot more interesting!

Spooning?

Washington Irving

blueser wrote: »

Not with that goalkeeper, they won't. Abysmal.

At least they have a very good back up, who should probably be first choice, in Subasic.

adamski8

[Deleted User] wrote: »

He was poor for both the first and the third goal.

Both great finishes in the bottom corners at pace? Ffs people hear reacting like it was a joe hart like cock up show.

RoryMac

adamski8 wrote: »

What exactly did he do wrong? Nearly saved a peno, caught numerous balls into the box, neymar scored through a few players right into the corner and he was caught out by a beautiful shot into the bottom corner by oscar

He should have saved the peno, he got both hands to it and let it go between them. He was very slow getting down to both the 1st & 3rd goals. The first maybe he was unsighted but the 3rd was a shocker

Beefy78

Soups123 wrote: »

Only ITV or BBC could spend more time on England rather than discussing the match we just seen

Catering to their target audience.

Corvus Maximus

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

This game has done nothing to dispel my concerns, that this is probably the worst Brazilian team I can remember since I became a Brazil fan in 1982.

Not producing the technically gifted players they once were. No way for example would Hulk have got near a Brazilian team back in the 90s. I think it could be down to the fact that so many of them start off in European academies which could if anything constrain them to a certain degree due to coaches giving them precise instructions to follow as opposed to letting them play off their instincts

.jacksparrow.

Jose doesn't like Modric type players, on the day he signs fabregas?

Paully D

adamski8 wrote: »

What exactly did he do wrong? Nearly saved a peno, caught numerous balls into the box, neymar scored through a few players right into the corner and he was caught out by a beautiful shot into the bottom corner by oscar

IMO:

1st goal - Got the timing of his dive all wrong. It should be a relatively comfortable save from that distance and with that much power.

2nd goal - After getting a hand to the penalty he should have saved it. It was the perfect height for a goalkeeper.

3rd goal - He wasn't anticipating the shot at all and was slow to get down to it.

They're not howlers by any means, but personally I don't think it's expecting too much of an international goalkeeper to be expected to save all three of them.

Soups123

Beefy78 wrote: »

Catering to their target audience.

Yeah suppose but they just did a special on R Lambert for f sake!

blueser

adamski8 wrote: »

What exactly did he do wrong? Nearly saved a peno, caught numerous balls into the box, neymar scored through a few players right into the corner and he was caught out by a beautiful shot into the bottom corner by oscar

Should haved saved the first (a scuffed shot from outside the box) and the third (a toe poke from outside the box) and once he got as much of a hand on the penalty as he did, he (as would most keepers) would have expected to keep it out. Apart from those three errors, he did okay!

Soups123

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Jose doesn't like Modric type players, on the day he signs fabregas?

It's a fair point and be interesting how he uses Cesc

adamski8

RoryMac wrote: »

He should have saved the peno, he got both hands to it and let it go between them. He was very slow getting down to both the 1st & 3rd goals. The first maybe he was unsighted but the 3rd was a shocker

He didnt fall for neymars pre peno antics and dive too early, read the peno and near deflected it wide. My god that is terrible keeping alright. You really have to redefine a shocker. He pulled off a great diving save in the second half as well, i think he claimed every long ball and cross that came in too.

Beefy78

Soups123 wrote: »

Yeah suppose but they just did a special on R Lambert for f sake!

As an England fan I enjoyed it. I probably would have switched off otherwise.

As someone else said, it's nothing that RTE wouldn't, rightly, do about Ireland were they there.