Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Notes in OP,22/7

nicklauski

Fcebook status thievery going on all over the shop tonight.

Iseedeadpixels

nicklauski wrote: »

Fcebook status thievery going on all over the shop tonight.

Mine was stolen off my own page

MagicIRL

Bleating Lamb

Said at start of transfer window that I wasn't coming on boards Man Utd soccer forum till Utd did something decent transfer wise,happy Shaw and Herrera signed but from watching WC I would be saying break the bank for Hummels and Toni Kroos...or Vidal if Kroos won't come,Kroos is such a composed player.

TheTownie

Ducker article (pay wall)

"Adidas ready to sign £750m ten-year kit deal with Manchester United"

limpdd

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Said at start of transfer window that I wasn't coming on boards Man Utd soccer forum till Utd did something decent transfer wise,happy Shaw and Herrera signed but from watching WC I would be saying break the bank for Hummels and Toni Kroos...or Vidal if Kroos won't come,Kroos is such a composed player.

Was thinking that about Hummels, you'd only realize how good he is when he left the pitch. Should build a defence around him.

Lucas Hood

TheTownie wrote: »

Ducker article (pay wall)

"Adidas ready to sign £750m ten-year kit deal with Manchester United"

Full article

thetimes.co.uk/tto/public/football/article4142580.ece

TheTownie

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Full article

thetimes.co.uk/tto/public/football/article4142580.ece

Always forget how to arrange that url for public. ha.

Deiseboy01

After that humiliation Pele wont be the only Brazilian needing Viagra's help to stiffen his resolve!

Limp or wha?! Germans didnt even need to play well to destroy them, they clearly bottled it, I'm including the coach in that. Guys like Fred have looked terrified from day one.

Insect Overlord

Deiseboy01 wrote: »

After that humiliation Pele wont be the only Brazilian needing Viagra's help to stiffen his resolve!

Limp or wha?! Germans didnt even need to play well to destroy them, they clearly bottled it, I'm including the coach in that. Guys like Fred have looked terrified from day one.

And what's that got to do with the price of Vidal? :P

Cantona's Collars

@GFN_France
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Sky Italia: Patrice #Evra's move to Serie A is imminent. Juventus have agreed 2 year contract (€7m). Fee w/ Man United in discussion (€2m).

Manchester United move closer to Arturo Vidal deal as Patrice Evra agrees Juventus switch (via @daily_express) http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/487634/Manchester-United-move-closer-to-Arturo-Vidal-deal-as-Patrice-Evra-agrees-Juventus-switch …

GSPfan

I highly doubt the Evra deal is gonna convince Juventus to sell Vidal. It'll be decided one way or another but I am sure Evra was not a deal maker or breaker.

If United signed a Vidal or Hummels or Di Maria anytime soon It would calm my nerves a bit about this summer. I think a big name signing like that is a massive statement.

If I may...

Raf Jones Hummels Shaw
Herrera Vidal DiMaria
Mata
Rooney Rvp

Just getting one of those 3 would be fantastic. 2 and we are dreaming.

tupac_healy

GSPfan wrote: »

I highly doubt the Evra deal is gonna convince Juventus to sell Vidal. It'll be decided one way or another but I am sure Evra was not a deal maker or breaker.

If United signed a Vidal or Hummels or Di Maria anytime soon It would calm my nerves a bit about this summer. I think a big name signing like that is a massive statement.

If I may...

Raf Jones Hummels Shaw
Herrera Vidal DiMaria
Mata
Rooney Rvp

Just getting one of those 3 would be fantastic. 2 and we are dreaming.

Good team, it wouldn't win a single game though.... Good as they are, without a keeper we have no hope!

MrBobbyZ

Watching Kroos last night makes me wonder if we havent missed the out on the ideal midfield recruitment. Fabregas is another.
However, the best thing about this world cup for me has been the return of that old feeling of total confidence in our Manager.
Yes I'd probably have gone all out to sign those two, but what do I know. Like Fergie, LVG knows exactly what he wants in a player (unlike Ed and Moyes last year when the only stategy evident was driving down the price).
Cant wait for next season.

Delboy5

How much is our Chevrolet deal worth per year?
And how much is the AON deal for Carrington?

With the new adidas deal approx £75m a year, surely we should see a big chuck of the debt disappearing in the next few years........

NTMK

Delboy5 wrote: »

How much is our Chevrolet deal worth per year?
And how much is the AON deal for Carrington?

With the new adidas deal approx £75m a year, surely we should see a big chuck of the debt disappearing in the next few years........

Chevy: £51m
Aon: £15m
DHL £10m

Lucas Hood

NTMK wrote: »

Chevy: £51m
Aon: £15m
DHL £10m

DHL deal is over United bought themselves out of it

markcahill1985

So looks like Evra is indeed off, strange one, suspect the player wanted the move, guess it makes the Vermaelen interest a bit more sensible (still dont agree with it) as he can play LB and CB. More in our line to get rid of ANderson, Cleverley and Young

kstand

The Vidal stuff right now is speculation - wouldn't read much into it until next week. Can see a lot of business happening after the WC final.

Mitch Connor

Lucas Hood wrote: »

DHL deal is over United bought themselves out of it

Indeed - and I believe the Chevy deal increases to near 70million over time as well.

Crimson King

markcahill1985 wrote: »

So looks like Evra is indeed off, strange one, suspect the player wanted the move, guess it makes the Vermaelen interest a bit more sensible (still dont agree with it) as he can play LB and CB. More in our line to get rid of ANderson, Cleverley and Young

Thought it was an unusual one, as I heard originally that it was Evra who had triggered the extra year extension clause. However Mitch posed yesterday that it may have been United who triggered it by playing Evra over a certain number of games, which makes sense. Hell, there may not even had been a 'signing' of the extension. And since then Evra's agent may have been pimping him out.

Maybe speculation but it would explain why sign him and then the strong rumors of a sale within a few months.

TheTownie

Disgusted Utd didn't push hard for Sanchez. Of course I don't know what Utd did or didn't do so maybe they tried and maybe the combo of London and UCL was too much of a lure for Sanchez but damn it hes exactly what we lack in the squad and will tear up the PL.

Backstreet Moyes

Good business by United offering Evra a new contract. We get a fee and get to keep in touch with Juve.

MagicIRL

TheTownie wrote: »

Disgusted Utd didn't push hard for Sanchez. Of course I don't know what Utd did or didn't do

TheTownie

MagicIRL wrote: »

Thanks for cutting my post in half and yes I realise I'm contradicting myself in those two lines but just accept my frustration for what it is god damn it !!

Cookiemunster

Evils baxtards



Just copped that's Fabio at Cardiff, not Raphael!

Backstreet Moyes

I am not starting a big debate here but i think LVG might like a go at turning around Anderson's career. He had so much potential when younger and LVG maybe able to get him sort his lifestyle around. Personally i have giving him too many chances and he deserves to go but maybe LVG will try to get him to sort himself out.

MagicIRL

Sums up exactly what's wrong with the internet and twitter!

Sanchez will do very well at Arsenal, especially if Walcott is fit too. The pace he'll bring to that team could do wonders for them, assuming they sort out a CF. Hernandez would be perfect for Arsenal but I don't see United selling to them and rightly so!

RE: Evra to Juve... That's what SAF was talking to our boy Antonio about in the stands many moons ago. As much as I want Vidal, I can't see United not buying Strootman under LvG.

Mitch Connor

TheTownie wrote: »

Disgusted Utd didn't push hard for Sanchez. Of course I don't know what Utd did or didn't do so maybe they tried and maybe the combo of London and UCL was too much of a lure for Sanchez but damn it hes exactly what we lack in the squad and will tear up the PL.

It is looking like we didn't move for him at all - all the talk is that his options were Juve, Liverpool and Arsenal, we haven't been mentioned at all in the last couple of weeks.

Could simply be that LVG doesn't see Sanchez fitting the formation he wants to play, or not a priority when money is required elsewhere. Could be LVG wants a more traditional winger rather than a forward like Sanchez - hence the links with players like Robben and Di Maria.

Fingers crossed we are looking elsewhere for that exciting spark in our attack. Di Maria would be a fantastic signing, but fcuk knows if we have any chance (or interest) there.

Mitch Connor

MagicIRL wrote: »

Sums up exactly what's wrong with the internet and twitter!

Sanchez will do very well at Arsenal, especially if Walcott is fit too. The pace he'll bring to that team could do wonders for them, assuming they sort out a CF. Hernandez would be perfect for Arsenal but I don't see United selling to them and rightly so!

RE: Evra to Juve... That's what SAF was talking to our boy Antonio about in the stands many moons ago. As much as I want Vidal, I can't see United not buying Strootman under LvG.

If we were to play a midfield 3, as LVG likes, no reason why Vidal and Strootman wouldn't fit. He has played Strootman as the deeper player in his Dutch side.

So Strootman deep, Vidal box to box, Herrera advanced.

Backstreet Moyes

Walcott Ozil and Sanchez behind a top class striker would be very scary.

Cantona's Collars

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Rumours continue to gather pace that Arturo Vidal will join #MUFC, with talks between the two clubs set for this week http://www.football-italia.net/51800/juve-man-utd-vidal-talks …
9:46 AM - 9 Jul 2014

Spazdarn

drool

markcahill1985

jamie Jackson now reporting Di Maria is LVG top target, would be a sensational signing, top top player.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jul/09/angel-di-maria-manchester-united-transfer-real-madrid-argentina

kstand

markcahill1985 wrote: »

jamie Jackson now reporting Di Maria is LVG top target, would be a sensational signing, top top player.

Don't think he's cut out for the EPL.

TheDoc

Kroos was impervious again last night.

Sickens me to think that despite maybe it all being rubbish, there was indication LVG isn't overly interested.

Calmness, control, precision, ugh he'd be glorious romping around OT.

markcahill1985

kstand wrote: »

Don't think he's cut out for the EPL.

I couldnt disagree more, he is deceptively strong and can play 2-3 different positions, a better option than Sanchez IMO

Maximus Alexander

Vidal and Di Maria and you can call time on transfers as far as I'm concerned. That'll do me.

F*ck the CB if that's the cost. :eek:

Mitch Connor

kstand wrote: »

Don't think he's cut out for the EPL.

I think that is WAY overplayed these days to be honest. The PL has changed in style dramatically over the years. Silva, Cazorla Mata and other players people wouldn't have considered cut out for the PL have, imo, done brilliantly.

Di Maria has pace, great technique and doesn't actually mind getting stuck in. He goes down rather easily, but so does pretty much every other player in the league now, so I don't see that as an issue really. The PL refs give fouls for incidental contact almost as much as european ones now.

TheDoc

Depending on the source it seems either Di Maria or Vidal are the top targets. Couldn't be both could it?

markcahill1985

TheDoc wrote: »

Depending on the source it seems either Di Maria or Vidal are the top targets. Couldn't be both could it?

Why not plus Vermaelen, dont for a second think we will sign both, more than likely will get neither but at least the intention is there anyway

Mitch Connor

TheDoc wrote: »

Depending on the source it seems either Di Maria or Vidal are the top targets. Couldn't be both could it?

I'd be surprised, to be honest.

My personal guess is that if we get Di Maria, we will move for De Jong for midfield instead of Vidal.

FutureGuy

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Vidal and Di Maria and you can call time on transfers as far as I'm concerned. That'll do me.

F*ck the CB if that's the cost. :eek:

All the 6-4 wins!!!

dulux99

It will be interesting to see how he hypothetically fits Di Maria, Rooney, RVP and Mata into a regular starting 11, if this is true.

Iseedeadpixels

FutureGuy wrote: »

All the 6-4 wins!!!

Sounds like my Sunday League days

Mitch Connor

dulux99 wrote: »

It will be interesting to see how he hypothetically fits Di Maria, Rooney, RVP and Mata into a regular starting 11, if this is true.

---

De Gea
Rafael--Smalling--Jones--Shaw

---

XXXXXX

---

Herrera

---

Mata
---Rooney--RVP--Di Maria.

With Di Maria being given a floating role, similar to what he did for Mardrid on occassion last season. Not sure about the midfield though, I do know Herrera gets stuck in, but a midfield of him, Mata and even Vidal or De Jong could potentially be too open. Mata would need to get stuck in to the midfield battle too.

Larry Wildman

We're starting to see the fruit of all those commercial deals fellas.

Plus Financial Fair Play is kicking in so only "proper" clubs can prosper.

The debt is becoming less and less relevant.

Soldie

Mitch Connor wrote: »

---

De Gea
Rafael--Smalling--Jones--Shaw

---

XXXXXX

---

Herrera

---

Mata
---Rooney--RVP--Di Maria.

With Di Maria being given a floating role, similar to what he did for Mardrid on occassion last season. Not sure about the midfield though, I do know Herrera gets stuck in, but a midfield of him, Mata and even Vidal or De Jong could potentially be too open. Mata would need to get stuck in to the midfield battle too.

No Evans? He's better than both Jones and Smalling.

Mitch Connor

Soldie wrote: »

No Evans? He's better than both Jones and Smalling.

personal preference, and i'd actually hope a new CB comes in to take one of the spots regardless.

glued

Di Maria's best position is as part of a midfield 3.