Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Notes in OP,22/7

TheTownie

RobertKK wrote: »

Marca in Spain are claiming Vidal has his bags already packed in preparation for his move to Manchester.

How they are suppose to know that is questionable.

I won't believe it until I see a pic of said bags.

Whatsisname

TheTownie wrote: »

I won't believe it until I see a pic of said bags.

homerjay2005

a mate of mine is over in Portugal for the summer and says the bebe to Benfica deal is being talked about alot.

would be a great move for the lad and hopefully we will get €5m+ for him.

glued

newballsplease wrote: »

75% done ?! Lol

It was actually 76.67% complete but 75% is a much better number.

KH25

homerjay2005 wrote: »

a mate of mine is over in Portugal for the summer and says the bebe to Benfica deal is being talked about alot.

would be a great move for the lad and hopefully we will get €5m+ for him.

Hopefully it happens. Heard he won player of the year last season for the team he was loaned to (can't recall the exact name :P). Delighted for him. He gets a lot of abuse because of his transfer, but that wasn't his fault. Hopefully he gets a good move and makes a decent career for himself.

Chagan

He's in the last year of his contract isn't he? That, coupled with the fact that he is who he is and United rarely seem to get good money for players, will probably mean he'll go for about £2-3 million I'd say.

To think Bebe could be playing European football next year and United won't is funny/depressing in a way.

Cantona's Collars

Lord TSC wrote: »

We sign Vidal, I'll be posting them with ye :pac:

@marca
Follow

Vidal prepara las maletas para marcharse a Manchester http://ow.ly/z6pd

Q

"Vidal packing his bags for Manchester"

Cantona's Collars

KH25 wrote: »

Hopefully it happens. Heard he won player of the year last season for the team he was loaned to (can't recall the exact name :P). Delighted for him. He gets a lot of abuse because of his transfer, but that wasn't his fault. Hopefully he gets a good move and makes a decent career for himself.

Still has more League medals than Gerard.

Rayne Wooney

We should get a buy back clause in Bebes contract just in case

Son Of A Vidic

shadowcomplex wrote: »

If Vidal was the next and last signing in this window how happy/disappointed would ye be?

I would be absolutely delighted.

Larry Wildman

I'm not celebrating until I know for sure that we haven't bought Gore Vidal to write programme notes...but holy f..k, Arturo Vidal is the player we've needed for years.

I'm liking this new novel approach:

"We need a midfielder. Who's the best in the world? Him? Okay. Get him."

Edit: RIP Gore Vidal

FutureGuy

Are we all believing Marca and morons on twitter now lads? Is the Daily Mail replacing the BBC as our trusted source?

We are not signing Vidal.

I think that's pretty obvious.

KH25

zerks wrote: »

Still has more League medals than Gerard.

Never gets old

billyhead

Not a chance we will get Vidal. Hes just teasing us with the comments about playing for the biggest club in the world and obviously his agent is leaking rumours he might be signing. All a ploy to get a bigger contract, On a side note I love the Argentina national anthem

redbaron_99

billyhead wrote: »

Not a chance we will get Vidal. Hes just teasing us with the comments about playing for the biggest club in the world and obviously his agent is leaking rumours he might be signing. All a ploy to get a bigger contract, On a side note I love the Argentina national anthem

He only signed a lucrative new contract a couple of months ago...

Crimson King

€5.5m a year his salary is, he could command a lot more than that at united.

http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2013/12/details-of-arturo-vidals-new-juventus-contract-revealed/

GSPfan

Looking forward to the Hummels stories gathering pace after the World Cup is over now and also what has happened to the Schweinstegger rumours?

Giggsy11

Crimson King wrote: »

€5.5m a year his salary is, he could command a lot more than that at united.

http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2013/12/details-of-arturo-vidals-new-juventus-contract-revealed/

That's net salary, which is around 170K pounds per week the way English paper reports.

Crimson King

Giggsy11 wrote: »

That's net salary, which is around 170K pounds per week the way English paper reports.

You sure it's net? Also it's euros and the rumour mill reported united were offering £230k which is a huge increase on €110k he seems to be currently on. Pogba is on pretty low wages too comparatively. It's what I always maintain, these rumors are agents pimping their clients out.

newballsplease

Hummells getting ruined by messi twice.

KH25

newballsplease wrote: »

Hummells getting ruined by messi twice.

The list of defenders who haven't been ruined by Messi is very small.

Giggsy11

Crimson King wrote: »

You sure it's net? Also it's euros and the rumour mill reported united were offering £230k which is a huge increase on €110k he seems to be currently on. Pogba is on pretty low wages too comparatively. It's what I always maintain, these rumors are agents pimping their clients out.

Italian, Spanish papers report net wages. Yeah its 11 Million Euros which is around 8.8 million pounds.

newballsplease

KH25 wrote: »

The list of defenders who haven't been ruined by Messi is very small.

True.

In normal circumstances does he lack pace ?

KH25

newballsplease wrote: »

True.

In normal circumstances does he lack pace ?

From what I've seen of him, no.

Crimson King

newballsplease wrote: »

Hummells getting ruined by messi twice.

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Italian, Spanish papers report net wages. Yeah its 11 Million Euros which is around 8.8 million pounds.

Interesting, never knew that.

DM_7

Lots of defenders end up in trouble when teams play with a high line.

ericzeking

DM-ICE wrote: »

Lots of defenders end up in trouble when teams play with a high line.

And lots and lots of defenders end up in trouble when faced with Messi!!

Bleating Lamb

Don't know lads,Hummels does look a bit one paced,am not as delighted we are meant to be in for him as I was pre kick off,likes of Rio in his prime wouldn't have been left for dead like Hummels was twice by Messi in first half.

user2011

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Don't know lads,Hummels does look a bit one paced,am not as delighted we are meant to be in for him as I was pre kick off,likes of Rio in his prime wouldn't have been left for dead like Hummels was twice by Messi in first half.

United wouldn't be playing as high a line as Germany to be getting caught out.

Bleating Lamb

user2011 wrote: »

United wouldn't be playing as high a line as Germany to be getting caught out.

Agree but you don't want your main CB signing to be a lad who can be left for dead in a one on one which will happen several times a season in important games.

DARK-KNIGHT

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Don't know lads,Hummels does look a bit one paced,am not as delighted we are meant to be in for him as I was pre kick off,likes of Rio in his prime wouldn't have been left for dead like Hummels was twice by Messi in first half.

messi is probably in top 3 of best ever players he is also lightening fast give hummels a break.

Lucas Hood

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Agree but you don't want your main CB signing to be a lad who can be left for dead in a one on one which will happen several times a season in important games.

So you sign a defender who's quicker but not quite as good actually defending?

GSPfan

Vidic used to look crap against Torres. Still a brilliant defender.

KH25

GSPfan wrote: »

Vidic used to look crap against Torres. Still a brilliant defender.

Very true. Torres used to terrorise Vidic quite a lot. Even the best can be made to look ordinary when they face world class opponents.

Larry Wildman

Maybe we should sign Usain Bolt and play him at centre half?

Problem solved.

user2011

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Agree but you don't want your main CB signing to be a lad who can be left for dead in a one on one which will happen several times a season in important games.

Won't happen if the high line isn't being played.

And just from the few games in WC, LvG won't be playing the high line. Weather it's 5-3-2 or 4-3-3 the defense will be set right, be deep then counter.

I wouldn't be signing/not signing Hummels to stop Messi, I'd be happy to sign him to get us to face him then let the manager get the tactics right to stop him.

Chagan

If we're judging players based on how they do in 45 minutes against Lionel Messi then we'll never sign anyone.

Bleating Lamb

Relax lads,just making the point that he's not the complete package.

KH25

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Relax lads,just making the point that he's not the complete package.

In your opinion then, who is?

GSPfan

That Argentina jersey is beautiful by the way. I'm crossing my fingers for adidas to win the contract for our kit. Please.

Quandary

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Relax lads,just making the point that he's not the complete package.

Who would you have instead of him?

Larry Wildman

I was at the Champions League semi-final in 2008. United dealt with Messi really well that night. Evra in particular was unreal.

Paul Tergat

Larry Wildman wrote: »

I was at the Champions League semi-final in 2008. United dealt with Messi really well that night. Evra in particular was unreal.

Messi was barely back from an injury.

The thing is, when he is on it nobody can stop him. He is not the yardstick to use when measuring a defender.

dahat

GSPfan wrote: »

That Argentina jersey is beautiful by the way. I'm crossing my fingers for adidas to win the contract for our kit. Please.

Adidas or not that ****ing huge Chevrolet logo will ruin the jersey regardless

Rayne Wooney

Hummels has been excellent

user2011

dahat wrote: »

Adidas or not that ****ing huge Chevrolet logo will ruin the jersey regardless

Was thinking of signing up to twitter to start a "no chev logo" on United jersey campaign

Lucas Hood

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Hummels has been excellent

Wouldn't say excellent he's been OK. Boateng has played better than him.

Bleating Lamb

Wouldn't sign anyone,Evans and Jones are up to it,just keep them fit,signing off now;)

Nemanrio

dahat wrote: »

Adidas or not that ****ing huge Chevrolet logo will ruin the jersey regardless

Agreed sponsorship logos in general destroy a jersey

Felexicon

Mother of god. Was going to come in and jokingly post that I wouldn't buy Hummells now because Messi has made him look a bit ordinary at times tonight.

Some people just shouldn't comment on footballers