Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Notes in OP,22/7

redbaron_99

shadowcomplex wrote: »

Vidal looks like a great all round box to box midfielder, how would ye guys compare him to Roy keane in his prime?

Keane was more like that in his early career. Similar in some respects. Vidal is just a superb player. Would transform our team to have a player like that instead of carrick.

kryogen

Have some of that

Cavani

ElChe32

First time I've ever cheered a Suarez goal..I feel dirty.

kryogen

ElChe32 wrote: »

First time I've ever cheered a Suarez goal..I feel dirty.

I didn't cheer the finish I cheered the assist

Thought initially it was inch perfect, but actually it wouldn't have taken 5 England players out of the equation if Jagielka hadn't got caught momentarily ball watching, still would have been incredibly difficult to stop.

Rooney the only one playing alright??

beno619

TheDoc wrote: »

Ronaldo situation was different.

He didnt then change his mind and take on a bumper contract. Ronaldo said he wanted to leave to Madrid, which is THE big club for people in that region. He was convinced to stay another year, and in fairness did so, with the agreement he could go next season.

It was amicable, it was respectful, Ronaldo got the head down and was incredible. Granted we didn't know all this until after the fact, if anything it gave me a lot more respect for Ronaldo. Fergie believed there was another CL on the horizon, didn't work out that way and he went, still mostly lauded by our fans.

Rooney has twice schemed a move, found out he's not as highly regarded in Europe as his agent might have made him think, and then ended up with a new contract, each time.

There was a pretty big difference. The amount of money doesn't bother me persay, but the club bending to his will certainly does. We've now made him an undroppable player on that salary, and to a point where we most likely won't be able to sell him. No one in Europe would pay 300k a week for Rooney.

No one

Ronaldo sulked his way through his last season.

Deiseboy01

England should be playing 451. Rooney up top. Throw Milner into advanced centre mid . Midfield just don't have the legs

beno619

TheDoc wrote: »

Ronaldo situation was different.

He didnt then change his mind and take on a bumper contract. Ronaldo said he wanted to leave to Madrid, which is THE big club for people in that region. He was convinced to stay another year, and in fairness did so, with the agreement he could go next season.

It was amicable, it was respectful, Ronaldo got the head down and was incredible. Granted we didn't know all this until after the fact, if anything it gave me a lot more respect for Ronaldo. Fergie believed there was another CL on the horizon, didn't work out that way and he went, still mostly lauded by our fans.

Rooney has twice schemed a move, found out he's not as highly regarded in Europe as his agent might have made him think, and then ended up with a new contract, each time.

There was a pretty big difference. The amount of money doesn't bother me persay, but the club bending to his will certainly does. We've now made him an undroppable player on that salary, and to a point where we most likely won't be able to sell him. No one in Europe would pay 300k a week for Rooney.

No one

Ronaldo sulked his way through his last season.

Zico

Rooney is the best of a bad bunch for England, but he wouldn't get on the Uruguayan bench in any position.

kryogen

beno619 wrote: »

Ronaldo sulked his way through his last season.

My new favorite pic

Kerrydude1981

One thing with England is when a player gets the ball he has no options available to him pass it sideways.bit like our lads last season,players playing a million miles apart from each other.

Mikeyt086

Iseedeadpixels wrote: »

Not a fan of Khedira but again hes better than the lot we have now.

Look at it this way, apparently LVG always deploys 3 in midfield, a defender, a box to box player, and an attacking player. Khedira can play the defensive role well, Mata seems ideal to play the attacking role the way Sneijder does for Holland, so we need someone to play box-to-box, Strootman in an ideal world, Fellaini/Carrick/Cleverley in a cruel world.

It's a signing I would be upset with.

Blatter

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

Look at it this way, apparently LVG always deploys 3 in midfield, a defender, a box to box player, and an attacking player. Khedira can play the defensive role well, Mata seems ideal to play the attacking role the way Sneijder does for Holland, so we need someone to play box-to-box, Strootman in an ideal world, Fellaini/Carrick/Cleverley in a cruel world.

It's a signing I would be upset with.

I would say Khedira is more box to box than he is a holding midfielder. He gets up and down the pitch very well.

Headshot

kryogen wrote: »

Have some of that

Cavani

Spoke a bit to soon

kryogen

Blatter wrote: »

I would say Khedira is more box to box than he is a holding midfielder. He gets up and down the pitch very well.

While I agree he is more box to box then holding, he is not the required standard we should be targetting, very over rated player in some places, though the penny does seem to be dropping.

kryogen

Headshot wrote: »

Spoke a bit to soon

Can never be too soon to profess man love for The Matador!

Larry Wildman

Vidal would be the perfect signing.

Re Rooney, it's easy to see why some people want to see the back of him. His wages and his profile are at the Ronaldo/Messi end of the spectrum but he's way short of that level. The boy that lit up Euro 2004 and scored that hat trick against Fenerbache has not fulfilled his potential.

kryogen

Rooney

RobertKK

English media will have to blame Rooney for that goal....

Deiseboy01

Delighted for rooney, he's been the best of a bad lot.

Whatsisname

Delighted for him!

Robin van Persie ‏@Persie_Official
Yesssss get in there!! @WayneRooney

Larry Wildman

Football and the media in particular are utterly insane.

Rooney scores a tap in and suddenly he'll be Gazza in 1990 reincarnated.

Timmyctc

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Football and the media in particular are utterly insane.

Rooney scores a tap in and suddenly he'll be Gazza in 1990 reincarnated.

As far as I can see you're the only one suggesting as much. Rooney has, however, been their best player by a stretch and a mile.

Zico

Gerrard

RobertKK

Suarez should be on Rooney wages.

RobertKK

Zico wrote: »

Gerrard

It was a good assist lol.

RobertKK

Getting back to United, I wonder how long till we are linked with James Rodriguez?

kryogen

RobertKK wrote: »

Getting back to United, I wonder how long till we are linked with James Rodriguez?

Have we not been yet this year? Was nearly sure we have been, as we are every year

MagicMarker

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Football and the media in particular are utterly insane.

Rooney scores a tap in and suddenly he'll be Gazza in 1990 reincarnated.

Oh **** off.

NTMK

kryogen wrote: »

Have we not been yet this year? Was nearly sure we have been, as we are every year

no not afaik after his 45mill transfer last year no rag is that stupid to run that story

Larry Wildman

Timmyctc wrote: »

As far as I can see you're the only one suggesting as much. Rooney has, however, been their best player by a stretch and a mile.

I doubt that...had England gone on to get a result we'd have been treated to "Rooney comes good" and "Lionheart Rooney" headlines.

England are an average side and massively overrated.

Jesus Christ...the nation that had Jimmy Greaves, Dixie Dean, Gary Lineker, Tommy Taylor and Alan Shearer has Ricky F..king Lambert coming on to save the day. Shocking.

Anyway, re United and Rooney...sell him. Scholesy was right...he's past his best.

beno619

kryogen wrote: »

My new favorite pic

Your opinion ,he didn't play with a smile on his face like his phenomenon second last season. I love the guy but don't think he gave 100% in his last year.

beno619

kryogen wrote: »

My new favorite pic

Your opinion ,he didn't play with a smile on his face like his phenomenon second last season. I love the guy but don't think he gave 100% in his last year.

Zico

MagicMarker wrote: »

Oh **** off.

I was thinking just that when you said he was a 'World Class' striker earlier.

kryogen

NTMK wrote: »

no not afaik after his 45mill transfer last year no rag is that stupid to run that story

Headline from today

the express wrote:

Colombia 2 - Ivory Coast 1: Man Utd target James Rodriguez opens scoring in tight victory

Cypher_sounds

Wonder what Moyes thought of Jagielkas defending tonight and if he thinks Vidic could learn from what he saw tonight.

kryogen

beno619 wrote: »

Your opinion ,he didn't play with a smile on his face like his phenomenon second last season. I love the guy but don't think he gave 100% in his last year.

A smile on his face? Not many players actually do that you know, an idea though, would freak out the opposition surely to have a guy smiling at them for 90 minutes

Honestly, if he didn't give 100% we would not have been near the CL final that year

Headshot

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

Wonder what Moyes thought of Jagielkas defending tonight and if he thinks Vidic could learn from what he saw tonight.

"He was unlucky"

Rayne Wooney

Serious tide change on Rooney, it shows the power the media have and the stupidity of some who go along with it

England are very poor and I don't know if it's more Hodgson or the disastrous midfield and defence. To give Suarez credit he's probably the second best striker at the tournament after the Oranje Salmon

NTMK

kryogen wrote: »

Headline from today

i like to change my statement to

"no not afaik after his 45mill transfer last year no rag bar the express is that stupid to run that story"

:pac:

Schwiiing

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Serious tide change on Rooney, it shows the power the media have and the stupidity of some who go along with it

England are very poor and I don't know if it's more Hodgson of the disastrous midfield and defence. To give Suarez credit he's probably the second best striker at the tournament after the Oranje Salmon

They're coming.

adox

Zico wrote: »

Rooney is the best of a bad bunch for England, but he wouldn't get on the Uruguayan bench in any position.

Ah would ya stop.

Whatsisname

"Delighted for Rooney" is now trending on twitter in Ireland :pac:

2moreMinutes

Whatsisname wrote: »

"Delighted for Rooney" is now trending on twitter in Ireland :pac:

I am delighted for him as it's pathetic how he has been targeted in the last few weeks when there are more obvious issues with their team.

In saying that, he should have buried one shortly before he scored his tap in.

Rayne Wooney

Schwiiing wrote: »

They're coming.

Augmerson

Schwiiing wrote: »

They're coming.

*moves fridge*



well lads! :pac:

Headshot

You know it makes me so happy. He ****s up the title race for Pool and now he ****s the International Team.

Just love it

Quandary

Fair play to Rooney and Sturridge, they were the only two players brave enough to rise up to the occasion. For a player as senior as Gerrard to be as ineffective and anonymous as he has been in the last 2 games is simply not good enough. The fact that he is meant to be the leader of his team is laughable. The armband should be given to Rooney or Sturridge. I'd nearly give it to Joe Hart ahead of him.

Anyway! What's the story with Khedira? Is there any substance to the rumours or is it all rag talk?

bmcc10

Headshot wrote: »

You know it makes me so happy. He ****s up the title race for Pool and now he ****s the International Team.

Just love it

How dare you!

bmcc10

No Kagawa

redbaron_99

Kagawa left out of the team. That was a strange story they mentioned on rte, said that kagawa admitted to being mentally beaten or something. Hmm...