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***Leaving Cert MUSIC- All Levels: Before and After Discussion***

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  • #62
    chatterboxxx95
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭chatterboxxx95


    richardh330 wrote: »
    Quite a predictable paper, listening was great but composing was challenging.
    I did Q1 and Q3, will both be corrected?

    Listening was good, bar the fact a blanked my ceili bands essay -_-
    I hated composing, thought the backing chords was very challenging :(
    Yeah, I think with the LC they will correct every question you answer and take your best :)


  • #63
    HelenAnn
    Registered Users Posts: 28 ✭HelenAnn


    Does anyone know is 1b to V still an imperfect cadence?


  • #64
    6thyearlife
    Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭6thyearlife


    What did people have in the last two boxes of harmony it's realised I may have messed up


  • #65
    richardh330
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭richardh330


    HelenAnn wrote: »
    Does anyone know is 1b to V still an imperfect cadence?

    Yip it is
    6thyearlife wrote: »
    What did people have in the last two boxes of harmony it's realised I may have messed up

    Pretty sure it ended with a plagal cadence (Db to Ab), question 5 that is


  • #66
    chatterboxxx95
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭chatterboxxx95


    richardh330 wrote: »
    Yip it is



    Pretty sure it ended with a plagal cadence (Db to Ab), question 5 that is

    Where were the cadence points on q 5??

    I tried to get 2 four bar phrases and one six bar but I couldn't for love nor money get a cadence in the second place I picked so I put one in that didn't fit in a blind state of panic and threw down as many cadence chords as I could!


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  • #67
    richardh330
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭richardh330


    chatterboxxx95 wrote: »
    Where were the cadence points on q 5??

    I tried to get 2 four bar phrases and one six bar but I couldn't for love nor money get a cadence in the second place I picked so I put one in that didn't fit in a blind state of panic and threw down as many cadence chords as I could!

    The trick is to not force cadence points, they form themselves. Once there's a chord I V or vi at the end of the line you're fine


  • #68
    evolving_doors
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    richardh330 wrote: »
    The trick is to not force cadence points, they form themselves. Once there's a chord I V or vi at the end of the line you're fine

    At the end of a phrase you mean, no?


  • #69
    richardh330
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭richardh330


    Armelodie wrote: »
    At the end of a phrase you mean, no?

    Yeah, they usually put the end of the phase at the end of the line.... Usually...


  • #70
    evolving_doors
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    richardh330 wrote: »
    Yeah, they usually put the end of the phase at the end of the line.... Usually...

    Ahh no they don't... only guaranteed cadence/end of phrase at the end of a line is the last one!

    e.g. the first cadence point in Q5 this year would be bar 4 which is the middle of the second line..( If you look at bar 5, it is similar to the start of bar 1 so the start of a new phrase).

    The syncopations they put in for these questions are horrible though in fairness and really does create ambiguity as it leaves the chords open to appoggiaturas which are notes not out of the chord (but could still work!!).

    In saying all that it does really test to see which student can actually 'hear' the melody that is written.. i.e. you need to be a good sight singer with a good rhythmic skills to know where the melody is going (not to mention the bassline!!).


  • #71
    chatterboxxx95
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭chatterboxxx95


    Armelodie wrote: »
    Ahh no they don't... only guaranteed cadence/end of phrase at the end of a line is the last one!

    e.g. the first cadence point in Q5 this year would be bar 4 which is the middle of the second line..( If you look at bar 5, it is similar to the start of bar 1 so the start of a new phrase).

    The syncopations they put in for these questions are horrible though in fairness and really does create ambiguity as it leaves the chords open to appoggiaturas which are notes not out of the chord (but could still work!!).

    In saying all that it does really test to see which student can actually 'hear' the melody that is written.. i.e. you need to be a good sight singer with a good rhythmic skills to know where the melody is going (not to mention the bassline!!).

    Where was the next cadence point of 2014 q5? I tried to put it at the end of the 8th bar because of all the ties it was the only bar it fit and rhythmically it seemed to make sense as bar 9 had the syncopated bit at the end of the bar like 1 and 5.


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  • #72
    Janeh9
    Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭Janeh9


    I was really happy with the essay question my mam's a well known fiddle player I had a grand aul speech about her :D


  • #73
    HelenAnn
    Registered Users Posts: 28 ✭HelenAnn


    Janeh9 wrote: »
    I was really happy with the essay question my mam's a well known fiddle player I had a grand aul speech about her :D

    That must have been pretty handy!


  • #74
    Janeh9
    Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭Janeh9


    HelenAnn wrote: »
    That must have been pretty handy!

    I was delighted! So handy :P


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