#end fathers day-apparently is oppressive!

tritium

http://m.nationalreview.com/article/380339/endfathersday-tweets-seek-stop-misogynistic-celebration-molly-wharton

Fatherhood may or may not be a mystical estate, an apostolic succession founded upon a void. But activists are here to warn you that honoring the father glorifies rape, patriarchy, and child abuse.
Expressing outrage at the offensive and sexist holiday, Twitter anti-fatherists are making one simple demand: #EndFathersDay.

It’s true that Father’s Day, like fatherhood itself, proceeds from incertitude and unlikelihood. The holiday struggled through much of the 20th century, as even Woodrow Wilson, the busybody president who proclaimed an official Mother’s Day, stopped short of doing the same for American dads. Presidential recognition only came with the Nixon administration in 1972, and Americans ever since have been lukewarm about Father’s Day — consistently spending substantially less than we do on Mother’s Day, for example.

Still, families across the country are expected to come together to celebrate fathers and fatherhood Sunday, bothering exactly nobody in the process. So what is #EndFathersDay’s beef (or no-animal-products beef substitute) with this harmless holiday?

Many of the tweets at #EndFathersDay also included #YesAllWomen, the popular grassroots hashtag where women can share stories of harassment or misogyny they have experienced.

All agree that Father’s Day is not something to be celebrated. Most argue that the holiday clearly celebrates the culture of oppression of women by men, and we simply should not be observing it.

Fcuk there are some miserable petty bastids out there

Happy fathers day this Sunday to all the dads.

Owryan

Bring it on I say.....last year I got a Halloween mug from my kids :-)

The Backwards Man

Father's Day, like Mother's Day and every other 'day' that is somehow more special than the rest, is a load of old bollocks.

umop.episdn

'Murcia!

anncoates

Any flimsy excuse for a World's Best Dad mug and a day drinking pass should be eagerly grasped IMO.

lintdrummer

umop.episdn wrote: »

'Murcia!

Viva Espana?

alchemist33

umop.episdn wrote: »

'Murcia!

The region in Spain? Do they hate fathers day too?!?!

Banjo String

I always get asked what I want for fathers day, and always reply that there's nothing I need. (so I'll get socks, jocks and taken out for dinner prob)

A lie on past 8am, a mug of tea and some fried mushrooms with a poached egg that I could eatin bed would do me right.

Its the thought that counts though, nothing wrong with being spoiled for at least one day a year, as for my dad, I wont get up north to see the auld lad tomorrow, but I got him a nexus tablet and a few cards (it was his birthday yesterday too)

We only get the one dad, time is short and regrets are/can be avoidable.

Links234

Slow news day when they make a story out of some Twitter activist hashtag.

umop.episdn

Links234 wrote: »

Slow news day when they make a story out of some Twitter activist hashtag.

It's actually a 4Chan hoax that caught on like wildfire

tritium

umop.episdn wrote: »

It's actually a 4Chan hoax that caught on like wildfire

Not actually clear who did it at this point. Some of the responses are scarily psycho though

A friend of a friend is the worst find of feminist and was discussing this in the pub a few weeks back, she felt that a day celebrating rape was disgusting. As you'd expect she was called on the tape remark and asked what the hell she meant. She replied that "any sex act involving a man is rape because the man has a or use"

Sunnyisland

Deleted User wrote: »

A friend of a friend is the worst find of feminist and was discussing this in the pub a few weeks back, she felt that a day celebrating rape was disgusting. As you'd expect she was called on the tape remark and asked what the hell she meant. She replied that "any sex act involving a man is rape because the man has a or use"

Your friend of a friend sounds like a fool.

Recondite49

tritium wrote: »

http://m.nationalreview.com/article/380339/endfathersday-tweets-seek-stop-misogynistic-celebration-molly-wharton



Fcuk there are some miserable petty bastids out there

Happy fathers day this Sunday to all the dads.

Did the Femtards have anything to say about Mother's Day out of interest? Surely we should ban it too in the interests of equality? :-D

realies

realies wrote: »

Your friend of a friend sounds like a fool.

She's an idiot of the highest order, the kind of feminist who blames the victim (if they're male) of sexual abuse for bring in on themselves.

umop.episdn

[Deleted User] wrote: »

A friend of a friend is the worst find of feminist and was discussing this in the pub a few weeks back, she felt that a day celebrating rape was disgusting. As you'd expect she was called on the tape remark and asked what the hell she meant. She replied that "any sex act involving a man is rape because the man has a or use"

I think I speak for most of us on here when I say, "huh"?

Recondite49

umop.episdn wrote: »

I think I speak for most of us on here when I say, "huh"?

Haven't you heard of "mental" rape? I was accused of being no better than a rapist for openly mocking a so-called Feminist on Twitter once. Glad they have things in perspective. No wonder most women let alone most men don't take them seriously.

maguic24

First of all, what the actual fúck? Someone please explain to me how Fathers day is misogynistic? Seriously.

I think mothers day/fathers day/valentines day, all them stupid holidays are a money making racket. Retailers have a fúcking field day. While I care for none of them stupid holidays equally, I still don't see the harm in any of them.

How can fathers day be misognistic and mothers day be perfectly okay? Honest to god, some people have a seriously warped view of the world!!

umop.episdn

Recondite49 wrote: »

Haven't you heard of "mental" rape? I was accused of being no better than a rapist for openly mocking a so-called Feminist on Twitter once. Glad they have things in perspective. No wonder most women let alone most men don't take them seriously.

"because the man has a or use" .......how the feck am I supposed to get mental rape from that?

umop.episdn

umop.episdn wrote: »

I think I speak for most of us on here when I say, "huh"?

I would imagine that her argument boils down to the fact that she hates men and is envious of the penise. As she's a fundamentalist feminist lesbian I got the impression that she wishes she was a man and as she can't she's instead decided to hate men. She has a masters in women's studies and anytime I've had the misfortune to meet her she's been crying about the oppression women suffer. She's a backwards ass with serious issues and takes every opportunity to talk nasty about men.

Banjo String

Deleted User wrote: »

I would imagine that her argument boils down to the fact that she hates men and is envious of the pensions. As a fundamentalist feminist lesbian I got the impression that she wishes she was a man and as she can't she's instead decided to hate men. She has a masters in women's studies and anytime I've had the misfortune to meet her she's been crying about the oppression women suffer. She's a backwards ass with serious issues and takes every opportunity to talk nasty about men.

Maybe it's your avatar, but I thought you were a bloke.

maguic24

Woah, woah, woah, just heard this twitter thing was instigated by 4chan....

I think they are just trolling.

Banjo String

Banjo String wrote: »

Maybe it's your avatar, but I thought you were a bloke.

I am, I was referring to the lady in question

connected1

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I would imagine that her argument boils down to the fact that she hates men and is envious of the pensions..

pension envy....... That's very Freudian

ringadingding

My 6yr old daughter got me the fairy princess colouring book I've been dreaming of.
And she gave up her valuable time to colour them for me .....

Banjo String

Deleted User wrote: »

I am, I was referring to the lady in question

I was messing. :pac:

Recondite49

umop.episdn wrote: »

"because the man has a or use" .......how the feck am I supposed to get mental rape from that?

You're not wrong friend, that's modern Feminism for you I'm afraid.. at best hypocriticial and self serving, at worst outright bats**t crazy.

connected1

connected1 wrote: »

pension envy....... That's very Freudian

Bloody auto correct, you write something and leave it assuming that it'll stay that way but no the iPod thinks it knows better

Jezek

Recondite49 wrote: »

You're not wrong friend, that's modern Feminism for you I'm afraid.. at best hypocriticial and self serving, at worst outright bats**t crazy.

mate, that's a spelling mistake

Banjo String

Banjo String wrote: »

I was messing. :pac:

I know but I figured I'd best clear it up before I got any weird messages.

Gannicus

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Father's Day, like Mother's Day and every other 'day' that is somehow more special than the rest, is a load of old bollocks.

Here here.

An end to Mother's Day, Valentine's Day, Father's Day all these shítty commercial days.

Recondite49

Recondite49 wrote: »

You're not wrong friend, that's modern Feminism for you I'm afraid.. at best hypocriticial and self serving, at worst outright bats**t crazy.

It's not though. A few batshít crazy SJWs with Tumblr blogs don't define the entire feminist movement. I know plenty of self-defining feminists who roll their eyes at this whole "all teh menz r rapists" mindset. Looking at some of the replies on Twitter there were plenty of feminists calling #EndFathersDay out for stupidity.

That said, it was a good hoax because there almost certainly are some people out there with such a warped view. Thankfully these people are not in any sort of position of power and as such can be largely ignored.

umop.episdn

Jezek wrote: »

mate, that's a spelling mistake

Oh right, we hadn't noticed that, thanks for clearing it up for us

The Backwards Man

Gannicus wrote: »

Here here.

An end to Mother's Day, Valentine's Day, Father's Day all these shítty commercial days.

I wouldn't go that far, I make a bit of money out of them now and again.

Recondite49

Deleted User wrote: »

It's not though. A few batshít crazy SJWs with Tumblr blogs don't define the entire feminist movement. I know plenty of self-defining feminists who roll their eyes at this whole "all teh menz r rapists" mindset. Looking at some of the replies on Twitter there were plenty of feminists calling #EndFathersDay out for stupidity.

That said, it was a good hoax because there almost certainly are some people out there with such a warped view. Thankfully these people are not in any sort of position of power and as such can be largely ignored.

Hi Homer,

I'm told there are reasonable minded Feminists out there who simply strive for equality with men. Then again you look at the large campaigns online like for instance trying to ban page three through establishing some kind of politburo of censorship and you see the comments made by prominent Feminists going largely unchallenged by their sisters (my favourite being that the male population should be reduced by 90%).

The Guardian ran an article yesterday by a well meaning Feminist saying that "women" preferred the TV series 'Walking Dead' to 'Game of Thrones' as there's no rape. Not only is this not true, I did wonder about the kind of morality which says that eating people alive is better than rape but no matter.

My girlfriend left a scatching remark on their Facebook page (142 likes and counting!) to the effect that not only does this Feminist have no idea what she's talking about, she's actually being incredibly conceited and sexist for both trying to speak on behalf of all women and at the same time decide for them what's too shocking for them to see.

What I don't see though is the backlash from these supposedly normal Feminists when one of their number crosses the line. (As I did for instance in England when debating White Supermacists from the British National Party).

Where are these paragons of virtue? Any self-identified Feminists who want to say that this whole notion is ridiculous, please feel free!

Cienciano

Its a hoax started on 4chan.

http://www.dailydot.com/lifestyle/4chan-end-fathers-day/

Gannicus

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I wouldn't go that far, I make a bit of money out of them now and again.

Personally I'd go further than that but I have a feeling I'd make myself a pariah here on boards. ha ha

fleet_admiral

Deleted User wrote: »

It's not though. A few batshít crazy SJWs with Tumblr blogs don't define the entire feminist movement. I know plenty of self-defining feminists who roll their eyes at this whole "all teh menz r rapists" mindset. Looking at some of the replies on Twitter there were plenty of feminists calling #EndFathersDay out for stupidity.

That said, it was a good hoax because there almost certainly are some people out there with such a warped view. Thankfully these people are not in any sort of position of power and as such can be largely ignored.

Yer wan big red shanty binx is one

nullzero

[Deleted User] wrote: »

A friend of a friend is the worst find of feminist and was discussing this in the pub a few weeks back, she felt that a day celebrating rape was disgusting. As you'd expect she was called on the tape remark and asked what the hell she meant. She replied that "any sex act involving a man is rape because the man has a or use"

I wonder how many militant feminists have loving fathers who they hate for the crime of being male? These ideologies are warped. Men and women are equally important, militant feminists and idiotic misogynists should leave the rest of us alone.

Recondite49

Recondite49 wrote: »

Hi Homer

Ahoy!

I'm told there are reasonable minded Feminists out there who simply strive for equality with men. Then again you look at the large campaigns online like for instance trying to ban page three through establishing some kind of politburo of censorship and you see the comments made by prominent Feminists going largely unchallenged by their sisters (my favourite being that the male population should be reduced by 90%).

Realistically how many rational people, feminist or not, do you think agree with that? Sometimes it's better to ignore those kinds of hysterical extremists than dignifying them with a response.

There are plenty of things that feminists say and do that I disagree with or think are misguided. That's the thing with feminism; it's not one homogenous movement where everybody agrees with everyone else. But the basic definition of feminism, however one wishes to try and corrupt it, is about advocating the advancement of women's rights so that they may be considered equal., and that is something I fully support.

The Guardian ran an article yesterday by a well meaning Feminist saying that "women" preferred the TV series 'Walking Dead' to 'Game of Thrones' as there's no rape. Not only is this not true

That's one woman's opinion. It doesn't represent an entire movement.

I did wonder about the kind of morality which says that eating people alive is better than rape but no matter.

You can teach men (and women) not to rape but you can't teach zombies not to eat brains. :pac:

My girlfriend left a scatching remark on their Facebook page (142 likes and counting!) to the effect that not only does this Feminist have no idea what she's talking about, she's actually being incredibly conceited and sexist for both trying to speak on behalf of all women and at the same time decide for them what's too shocking for them to see.

Good for your girlfriend. Maybe she's a better feminist than the writer of that article.

Where are these paragons of virtue?

I wouldn't describe anybody as a paragon of virtue; you're never gonna 100% agree with somebody on everything. Though here's a recent article from a self-defining feminist who's criticising the anti-male sentiments that some feminists have: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/10831043/Modern-feminism-has-got-it-wrong-about-men.html

Another recent piece worth reading: http://www.salon.com/2014/06/09/men_can_be_feminists_but_its_actually_really_hard_work/

And even though it's just someone with a blog, I think this post by a feminist describing why she supports men's rights is worth a read: http://patriciahetherington.wordpress.com/2011/03/31/feminism-v-masculinity/

I don't necessarily agree with every single word these women say but I certainly don't see any of them as being man-haters.

Links234

Recondite49 wrote: »

(my favourite being that the male population should be reduced by 90%).

Where are these paragons of virtue? Any self-identified Feminists who want to say that this whole notion is ridiculous, please feel free!

Self identified feminist here who would like to say this whole notion is ridiculous, but I'm loathed to even dignify the above nonsense with a response.

Reducing the male population by 90%? It's an absurdity, an absolute dismal and tragically stupid position, but is exactly the kind of fevered Valerie Solanas themed garbage that some folks love to cherry pick from some random cranks Tumblr account. And as this thread has just gone to show, there's an awful lot of Poe's out there, so decrying every bit of nonsense out there is impossible.

Aurum

Recondite49 wrote: »

[...] you see the comments made by prominent Feminists going largely unchallenged by their sisters (my favourite being that the male population should be reduced by 90%).

I presume you mean this person? She is in no way a prominent Feminist. To use an analogy from American politics, she's the rabid Tea Party member ranting on YouTube about death panels and socialism. All members of a political movement aren't obliged to formally decry every insane statement by fringe members of their group.

Recondite49 wrote: »

The Guardian ran an article yesterday by a well meaning Feminist saying that "women" preferred the TV series 'Walking Dead' to 'Game of Thrones' as there's no rape. Not only is this not true, I did wonder about the kind of morality which says that eating people alive is better than rape but no matter.

My girlfriend left a scatching remark on their Facebook page (142 likes and counting!) to the effect that not only does this Feminist have no idea what she's talking about, she's actually being incredibly conceited and sexist for both trying to speak on behalf of all women and at the same time decide for them what's too shocking for them to see.

Well, it would make sense that more women than men would be turned off by the frequent sexual violence in GoT. It doesn't particularly bother me, I really enjoy the series/books but I know a lot of women who are really uncomfortable with the way that sexual violence is portrayed in the show. Also, the Guardian piece was responding to recent figures that showed that TWD *was* more popular among women that GoT, her hypothesis as to why was as valid as any other.

Recondite49 wrote: »

Where are these paragons of virtue? Any self-identified Feminists who want to say that this whole notion is ridiculous, please feel free!

If you're referring to the hashtag, Jezebel has already pointed out that it's a hoax and that the premise is ridiculous. EndFathersDay Was Brought To You By Trolls

eviltwin

Speaking as someone who doesn't have her dad this Fathers Day I think having one day in the year where you stop and think about your folks and all they have done and do is not too much to ask, sure its their job in a way but its still nice to have a day that reminds us how great our parents can be. I certainly don't expect anything on mothers day but its a nice feeling to know my kids appreciate me even if its just for that one day I'd give anything to be able to tell the old man how much we loved him.

So happy fathers day to all the boards dads, i hope you all have a great day.

P_1

Just goes to show how many people are easily led and are lacking in a sense of critical awareness that what looks like a 4chan hoax has gained so much traction.

On the subject of fathers day, yes it is a commercial invention (but commercial inventions aren't necessarily evil things) but every year I do find it is nice to treat my own dad to a bottle of red and a round of golf.

fergiesfolly

I found the whole Fathers DAY thing a bit ****e.
So several years ago I instigated the
Fathers Day Festival Weekend.
That's right. I want to be pampered, spoiled and worshipped as a man-God for a whole 48 hours.

Course, come Monday, I'm plain old daaaaad! again.

AlanS181824

15/6 is my grandads 4 year anniversary so bit hard to celebrate father's day at the same time but not much ye can do!

Micky Dolenz

Heh, trolled good and proper.

maguic24

P_1 wrote: »

Just goes to show how many people are easily led and are lacking in a sense of critical awareness that what looks like a 4chan hoax has gained so much traction.

In fairness, have you heard some of the stuff radical feminists come out with? The fathers day thing is well believable.

The Hill Billy

I look forward to it. It gives me the opportunity to tell Grandpa Billy that I appreciate him for being a great dad. (We're not the sort who would usually talk about such things.)

Also, it gives Mrs Billy the opportunity to remind our kids what a great dad I am & for them to be extra nice to me for the day.

I agree, the commerciality of it is a load of crap, but when I get cards that my boys made themselves - usually with a nice heart-felt sentiment - I am chuffed.

Unfortunately, I am working overseas right now but will look forward to getting scanned copies of the cards by email & a couple of virtual hugs on FaceTime.

nullzero

nullzero wrote: »

I wonder how many militant feminists have living fathers who they hate for the crime of being male? These ideologies are warped. Men and women are equally important, militant feminists and idiotic misogynists should leave the rest of us alone.

I brought that point up and she shut up for a minute before attacking me for being an "oppressive chauvinistic pig". I just started laughing at here and here twisted beliefs.

Recondite49

Deleted User wrote: »

I brought that point up and she shut up for a minute before attacking me for being an "oppressive chauvinistic pig". I just started laughing at here and here twisted beliefs.

We're speaking from the position of privilege you see so every word for the mouths of us men is poison... :-D