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Evolution of Feet.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,962 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Candie wrote: »
    I love painted toes. Long life toes!

    Also, how are we to judge the rise on the front of the shoe if we don't have toe cleavage?

    Too much toe cleavage:
    http://stylesizzle.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/toe-cleavage.jpg

    Ideal toe cleavage:
    http://media2.onsugar.com/files/2014/05/27/893/n/1922564/77f1be177bce6649_483196731.xxxlarge_2x/i/Show-Some-Toe-Cleavage.jpg

    Important stuff this.

    That woman looks terrible in those shoes, I cannot see anything elegant or graceful about them, regardless of how much cleavage they show.:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    For anyone who is interested:

    http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/cutting/ageuniv.htm

    A very interesting synopsis of the history of estimating the age of the universe.

    As for evolution, it is patent nonsense. Everyone knows Jesus made the animals.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭LizzieJones


    catallus wrote: »
    Maybe, if God decides so.

    Yes, because the big all-powerful invisible guy in the sky can do that. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,853 ✭✭✭Calibos


    looksee wrote: »
    That woman looks terrible in those shoes, I cannot see anything elegant or graceful about them, regardless of how much cleavage they show.:(

    +1

    Stiletto's no matter how classy the woman is or how well the woman in question can actually locamote in them, have, do and always will conjure up images in my head of drunken young ones dressed like slappers walking bandy legged down the street.

    Some nice flat sole slip ons??

    Conjure up images in my head of a french au pair wearing capris skipping down the lane towards me with beads of sweat glistening in the cleft between her bronzed golden bouncing breasts...... :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭LizzieJones


    Bring back the tails.
    Girls would look so much hotter with tails and we could just hang around trees and throw our faeces at each other

    Tail would just get in the way when having sex. It's bad enough when the guy momentarily ends up on my hair.


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  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    looksee wrote: »
    That woman looks terrible in those shoes, I cannot see anything elegant or graceful about them, regardless of how much cleavage they show.:(

    Don't focus on the shoes, focus on the toe cleavage.

    Stilettos are the work of the devil. Especially if you have wooden floors.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 95,466 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    6014 pfft and you a Mod.
    "I deduce that the time from the creation until midnight, January 1, 1 AD was 4003 years, seventy days and six hours."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 298 ✭✭Mackas_view


    You can't balance great without your big toe

    http://www.ask.com/question/can-you-walk-without-your-big-toe

    So it's being used

    Ears are also used for balancing funnily enough


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 298 ✭✭Mackas_view


    Since we are on the subject my toes are very long like 2inches plus. My third one is the biggest. It and the second one have knuckles like fingers.

    Anyone else have these or am I totally alone with my weird toes?


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Since we are on the subject my toes are very long like 2inches plus. My third one is the biggest. It and the second one have knuckles like fingers.

    Anyone else have these or am I totally alone with my weird toes?

    You're all alone in the world with that. Singular. Uniquely strange-footed.

    Weirdo.:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Ears are also used for balancing funnily enough

    As are stabilisers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 298 ✭✭Mackas_view


    As are stabilisers.

    So ditch the toes and ears and get a set of stabilisers you reckon?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    So ditch the toes and ears and get a set of stabilisers you reckon?

    Dont be silly , everyone knows ears are for keeping sunglasses on heads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 661 ✭✭✭Intensive Care Bear


    One of my friends was born with webbed feet, she has a tattoo of a tiny scissors and cut lines on one of them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    I also know a person with webbed toes. Pure evil, he is. We tried to burn him when we were young lads, but our parents told us to stop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Paramite Pie


    Evolution doesn't just happen to the entire human population at once. What happens is one person might be born with a bizarre mutation that alters the shape of their foot, and they'd have to make a lot of babies in order to become the 'common ancestor' for all the billions of people in the future.

    Also, humans once adapted to suit their environment but now we adapt the environment to suit us. Evolution will pan out differently for us as long as we continue to farm (not hunt), build shelter from the environment and cure the illnesses that used to thin our populations. Without any major natural selection going on, we're not going to change drastically.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,283 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Evolution doesn't just happen to the entire human population at once. What happens is one person might be born with a bizarre mutation that alters the shape of their foot, and they'd have to make a lot of babies in order to become the 'common ancestor' for all the billions of people in the future.

    Also, humans once adapted to suit their environment but now we adapt the environment to suit us. Evolution will pan out differently for us as long as we continue to farm (not hunt), build shelter from the environment and cure the illnesses that used to thin our populations. Without any major natural selection going on, we're not going to change drastically.

    Obesity could lead to rapid changes presumably.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭Tin Foil Hat


    kneemos wrote: »
    Obesity could lead to rapid changes presumably.

    Why?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,283 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Why?

    Speculating.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    If you red ur bible you wouldn't need to be doing any ungodly speculating!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,986 ✭✭✭jacksie66


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    What's with all the feet threads in AH's recently?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,291 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Also, humans once adapted to suit their environment but now we adapt the environment to suit us. Evolution will pan out differently for us as long as we continue to farm (not hunt), build shelter from the environment and cure the illnesses that used to thin our populations. Without any major natural selection going on, we're not going to change drastically.
    Well... For a start humans have been adapting their environment and externalising evolution from very early on. Toolmaking and control of fire were major gamechangers. Both opened up a huge vista of food choices without having to wait for natural selection to give us bigger teeth, claws, stronger stomach acid, extra stomachs etc. Cooking is right at the top in the How to be Human handbook. Fire, tools and clothing also opened up new environments we could exploit. Again without having to wait around for biology to catch up.

    Farming? The human genome has had more changes happening in the last 10,000 years than in the previous 100,000 and that was down to the agricultural revolution, living in larger groups etc. Changes relating to food adaptations(gluten, lactose, even alcohol among others) were a goodly chunk of that. That's what's interesting/funny about the current fad for eating a "paleolithic " diet. We're no longer paleolithic ourselves. Never mind that 90% of the so called paleo food didn't even exist back then.
    kneemos wrote: »
    Obesity could lead to rapid changes presumably.
    Possibly. It seems there is some inheritability from genetic changes within one generation, so it could influence future generations. We need to evolve a more robust insulin response system for a start as we're just not built for the all too common intake of simple carbs. Problem there is that medical intervention is minimising the effect.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 95,466 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Is it too late to mention that they are an amazing feat of evolution ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Zen65


    . . . . . . but how do you limp if both feet are operated on?

    Evenly, I'd guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Zen65


    Evolution doesn't just happen to the entire human population at once. What happens is one person might be born with a bizarre mutation that alters the shape of their foot, and they'd have to make a lot of babies in order to become the 'common ancestor' for all the billions of people in the future.

    Also, humans once adapted to suit their environment but now we adapt the environment to suit us. Evolution will pan out differently for us as long as we continue to farm (not hunt), build shelter from the environment and cure the illnesses that used to thin our populations. Without any major natural selection going on, we're not going to change drastically.

    Yes, the practical reality is that we are not allowing evolution per se to occur. Evolution occurs over generations on the basis that a mutation (or a series of small, incremental mutations) in the gene structure allows a greater number of children to be born to the person carrying the mutation. If for example the genetic alteration which would allow a big toe to cease to develop in a female also led to a greater number of eggs in the ovaries, then arguably that female may go on to have more children and so the genetic variation would spread "rapidly" (i.e. over a period of just a couple of thousand years) through society. However due to financial considerations most women having such a genetic variation in western society now would (a) have the toe replaced surgically for aesthetic purposes and (b) limit her offspring through contraception, thereby avoiding any slight variance in the statistical variance of society's gene pool.

    The days of evolution for humans are gone.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 11,362 ✭✭✭✭Scarinae


    Wibbs wrote: »
    That's what's interesting/funny about the current fad for eating a "paleolithic " diet. We're no longer paleolithic ourselves. Never mind that 90% of the so called paleo food didn't even exist back then.
    One of my friends posted pictures on Facebook recently of her paleo chocolate mousse (which is made from avocados) - just like the chocolate mousse Stone Age people used to eat! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Zen65


    kneemos wrote: »
    Obesity could lead to rapid changes presumably.

    For that to happen, one of two things must occur:

    (a) Genetically obese people must produce more children than non-obese. By "genetically obese" I mean people who are pre-disposed to being obese due to the functioning of their metabolism or their inability to realise they have eaten enough.

    (b) Genetically slim people must produce less children than non-obese. By "genetically slim" I mean people who are pre-disposed to being slim due to the functioning of their metabolism or their inability to eat large amounts of food.

    People who are obese for no genetic reason will not influence the gene pool one way of the other, since their off-spring will only be obese if there is enough food / wealth (and a lack of education) to lead to obesity.

    Z


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,291 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Zen65 wrote: »
    The days of evolution for humans are gone.
    The very fact that we are interfering in some obvious selection pressures, doesn't mean evolution is gone. Not even close. EG, not much more than a century ago on a third of children and often more wouldn't make it to reproductive age. They didn't survive the various ailments of childhood, or were "weaker" compared to those that did survive to reproduce. Today those same children will in the vast majority of cases make it(in developed countries). By their survival they're adding in genes that might have been lost 200 years ago.

    Secondly, now that we're beginning to understand about genetics and are fiddling about on the genetic level, there will likely come a time when directed parenting will become commonplace. We're already doing it with parental genetic testing to avoid certain heritable conditions. This will have a major impact on future humanity. That's before we get into artificial intelligence applied as an add on, or even a replacement.
    Scarinae wrote: »
    One of my friends posted pictures on Facebook recently of her paleo chocolate mousse (which is made from avocados) - just like the chocolate mousse Stone Age people used to eat! :D
    I know. WTF :D Oh and before they start droning on about veggies, the vast majority of those you get today have been selectively bred and look very different to the wild ones. You would not like to eat a wild banana, AKA Toothbreaker Seedbag.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Bring back the tails.
    Girls would look so much hotter with tails and we could just hang around trees and throw our faeces at each other

    I must say,a tail would make a woman more attactive.


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