22 year olds in secondary school ?

Damien McCool

The back to school uniform allowance is paid untill 22 years old if the child is still in second level, Do you know any 22 year olds still in secondary school ?

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

I knew a lad who repeated and he was 21 when he sat his leaving the second time.

Damien McCool

Damien McCool wrote: »

The back to school uniform allowance is paid untill 22 years old if the child is still in second level, Do you know any 22 year olds still in secondary school ?

Not personally, but there may be people who's illness or special needs delays them finishing second level until they're a bit older, so I don't see why it shouldn't be available to them in those circumstances.

mardybumbum

Yep, I know a lad who left school, moved over to England and worked as a chef for 3 years and was 22 doing the LC.

Did pretty well too.

kowloon

What Candie said. There shouldn't be an age limit on it at all as long as they're a dependant.

Renegade Mechanic

Youd be almost 10 years old in junior infants!!!:eek:

Lyaiera

There was a 21 year old in my school when we sat the leaving cert. She had been quite ill during her teenage years and only got a chance to do the leaving cert at 21.

NomadicGray

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Youd be almost 10 years old in junior infants!!!:eek:

You'd be king of the playground.

MacBizzle

Will there ever be a social welfare payment AH won't try to criticise?

Ye're worse than Fine Gael.

Billy86

FearDark

Not uncommon, there was three people in my year repeating, I'm sure they were over 20 anyway.

MJ23

Look at some of them in Home and Away. A few of the fellas in it are in their mid twenties.

OneArt

I never understood people who went back to their secondary school to repeat the Leaving. Fair enough if you're 18/19 repeating sixth year, but anything over that and... Ugh. Are there are not institutions/options to do the Leaving without having to go to a secondary school?

There was a girl in one of my first year college classes who dropped out. She subsequently went back to her secondary school to do the Leaving again!

deco nate

What's the problem, People trying to better themselves?

And you are moaning about it. Really! They do it to try to get
A job,or go further up the education chain,=better chance to get a even better paying job. What next, want to start
A dole thread next?

MacBizzle

OneArt wrote: »

I never understood people who went back to their secondary school to repeat the Leaving. Fair enough if you're 18/19 repeating sixth year, but anything over that and... Ugh. Are there are not institutions/options to do the Leaving without having to go to a secondary school?

There was a girl in one of my first year college classes who dropped out. She subsequently went back to her secondary school to do the Leaving again!

If your school was decent you might as well go back, I'd find it much easier to repeat in my current school than a different one especially the way I know all the staff/teachers etc.

shopaholic01

OneArt wrote: »

I never understood people who went back to their secondary school to repeat the Leaving. Fair enough if you're 18/19 repeating sixth year, but anything over that and... Ugh. Are there are not institutions/options to do the Leaving without having to go to a secondary school?

There was a girl in one of my first year college classes who dropped out. She subsequently went back to her secondary school to do the Leaving again!

I'd admire them for it, tbh. It must take a certain amount of courage and ambition to return.

Billy86

deco nate wrote: »

What's the problem, People trying to better themselves?

And you are moaning about it. Really!

Welcome to Ireland, friend! Enjoy your stay.

shopaholic01

MacBizzle wrote: »

If you're school was decent you might as well go back, I'd find it much easier to repeat in my current school than a different one especially the way I know all the staff/teachers etc.

Study the next time! :mad:

Mr. CooL ICE

I know a guy who dropped out of 3rd year business studies (en route to a 1.1) because he wanted to do medicine. Had to go back to sit his leaving and study chemistry for it.

Renegade Mechanic

shopaholic01 wrote: »

Study the next time! :mad:

Hmmm... Hey! Wheres Hotale?:mad:

MacBizzle

shopaholic01 wrote: »

Study the next time! :mad:

FUCK SAKE SHOPA!!!!!! :mad: :mad:

shopaholic01

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Hmmm... Hey! Wheres Hotale?:mad:

Boardsie heaven.

Renegade Mechanic

shopaholic01 wrote: »

Boardsie heaven.

Jaysus, wouldn't even wait for the results!? Thats cold:D

Nib

OneArt wrote: »

I never understood people who went back to their secondary school to repeat the Leaving. Fair enough if you're 18/19 repeating sixth year, but anything over that and... Ugh. Are there are not institutions/options to do the Leaving without having to go to a secondary school?

There was a girl in one of my first year college classes who dropped out. She subsequently went back to her secondary school to do the Leaving again!

Ugh? Really? Are you a 12 year old girl?

What an incredibly ignorant post.

Arthur Beesley

This is like 22 Jump Street all over again.

Uepped

Would these 22 year olds be required to wear full school unifom ?

shopaholic01

Uepped wrote: »

Would these 22 year olds be required to wear full school unifom ?

Only if they look like Britney Spears.

whirlpool

I was fully aware that there are people of all ages who sit the leaving cert, but I never really thought that they'd be attending a secondary school to do it. So, if a 60 year old wanted to sit the leaving cert, would they be going to secondary school every day with all the teenagers?

Surely that's where most people's confusion about the issue is coming from, and not from simply the idea of an older person sitting the leaving cert.

OneArt

OneArt wrote: »

I never understood people who went back to their secondary school to repeat the Leaving. Fair enough if you're 18/19 repeating sixth year, but anything over that and... Ugh. Are there are not institutions/options to do the Leaving without having to go to a secondary school?

There was a girl in one of my first year college classes who dropped out. She subsequently went back to her secondary school to do the Leaving again!

Good for her.

She obviously has enough confidence to put her education before petty concerns about what people think about her going back to school to improve her future. She's smart enough to think long term.

4zn76tysfajdxp

Not doing the Leaving Cert but you might see some 22 year olds attending Debs in certain parts of rural Ireland, rolling up in their '97 Toyota Corollas.

whirlpool

whirlpool wrote: »

I was fully aware that there are people of all ages who sit the leaving cert, but I never really thought that they'd be attending a secondary school to do it. So, if a 60 year old wanted to sit the leaving cert, would they be going to secondary school every day with all the teenagers?

Surely that's where most people's confusion about the issue is coming from, and not from simply the idea of an older person sitting the leaving cert.

60 year olds would probably go to night classes I expect, since they're likely to have full or part time jobs that secondary school hours wouldn't suit.

I don't think the State is obligated to provide school places for people over a certain age either.

MacBizzle

whirlpool wrote: »

I was fully aware that there are people of all ages who sit the leaving cert, but I never really thought that they'd be attending a secondary school to do it. So, if a 60 year old wanted to sit the leaving cert, would they be going to secondary school every day with all the teenagers?

Surely that's where most people's confusion about the issue is coming from, and not from simply the idea of an older person sitting the leaving cert.

There's a big difference between 22 and 60.

Most VECs do night classes for the LC i think, and most of the PLC colleges have a repeats course.

Renegade Mechanic

Boston Enough Sunfish wrote: »

Not doing the Leaving Cert but you might see some 22 year olds attending Debs in certain parts of rural Ireland, rolling up in their '97 Toyota Corollas.

Excuse me we have '99 Passats now.

With tdi and cooooooooo, boy.

shopaholic01

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Excuse me we have '99 Passats now.

With tdi and cooooooooo, boy.

Swanky!

OneArt

MacBizzle wrote: »

If your school was decent you might as well go back, I'd find it much easier to repeat in my current school than a different one especially the way I know all the staff/teachers etc.

I understand that bit, but for someone who has just experienced a year of college life, freedom etc. to going back to school with rules and uniform... The thought personally makes me shudder.

Of course it's their life, I just don't think I'd be able to cope with it. When I finished my Leaving I had nightmares for months that I'd have to go back!

OneArt

Nib wrote: »

Ugh? Really? Are you a 12 year old girl?

What an incredibly ignorant post.

Why does everyone think I'm criticising these people?

If it's the best decision for you, it's the best decision for you. I was just expressing that for me, personally, the idea of returning to school (as in an actual school, not redoing the Leaving in Plunkett's or whatever) isn't my cup of tea. What I am saying is that I don't understand the mindset of it. I'm not saying I don't approve of it. I don't understand how people can enjoy watching golf, but I don't think people are idiots for liking it.

You'd swear I'd said all people who go back to do the Leaving should die or something.

OneArt

OneArt wrote: »

Why does everyone think I'm criticising these people?

This bit sounds pretty critical:

Fair enough if you're 18/19 repeating sixth year, but anything over that and... Ugh.

So thats probably why.

OneArt

Candie wrote: »

This bit sounds pretty critical:



So thats probably why.

I did start off by talking about going to an actual school and explained how I could understand it if you were still that bit younger. I thought I'd explained myself clearly.

I also asked if there were possibilities to do it outside of actually going to a secondary school.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I didn't mean to offend, I guess I didn't make myself clear enough.

MacBizzle

OneArt wrote: »

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I didn't mean to offend, I guess I didn't make myself clear enough.

You've actually made me die inside, I'll never be the same.

entropi

Just because someone sat the LC past the age of 18 or 19 doesn't mean a thing...I done it in a PLC college so I could go to 3rd level education. This would also be a reason that some parents could get a payment from social welfare if they qualify for it, they would have a child in full time 2nd level education (PLC counts as 2nd level).

It would be almost impossible to see a 22 year old student in a regular school unless they had a disability that made their progression a lot slower. A non-disabled student would be asked to try a PLC option once they are 19 or over.

entropi

entropi wrote: »

Just because someone sat the LC past the age of 18 or 19 doesn't mean a thing...I done it in a PLC college so I could go to 3rd level education. This would also be a reason that some parents could get a payment from social welfare if they qualify for it, they would have a child in full time 2nd level education (PLC counts as 2nd level).

It's a school uniform payment.

entropi

Candie wrote: »

It's a school uniform payment.

Reads thread title again...ugh!

I reckon it would be for an aforementioned reason: disabled student/s needing some extra years to finish second level education.

Irishguy16

When I was doing my LC there was a 21 year old guy in our class, and we were all 17 or 18. He had been kept back twice, but he still managed to fail his LC. He used to think that he was better than everyone else because of his age,but in reality Anto was the weakest in the class. Not sure what happened to him after school. We never kept in contact. I think he's in America now

Noccy_Mondy

On the other side of the coin some of the NQT's in schools are barely 22........

chrissb8

I went back to a secondary school kinda environment. There was a year exclusively for repeat students. I was 20 and one of the oldest. I would agree it was tough going I was out of school 2 years at that stage but thankfully I was left mostly to my own devices by the people who ran the year. Really though I found when I went back the ability to pay attention was so easy. How could it not be. Your future depended on it. Infact when I saw other 18/19 year olds dossing I just thought wow, If only they could take some time off and realise what an opportunity the leaving cert is.

The oldest in my year was a 24 year old which to me was a step too far, she left half way through the year. I'm 24 now and if I had to go back in to that environment I would probably go insane. Being in a secondary school isn't just about sitting the leaving it's about the social aspect as well and how well you can fit in to that. I dislike most 18/19 year olds who to me are mostly self centered and are too hung up on what people think and going nuts on drinking. I was once 18/19 not long ago and would say I was like that. Definitely recommend doing the leaving cert else where if your 22.

Ray Palmer

A guy I went to school with repeated a few years in school. When I was in my final year in college he was doing his leaving. He was actually older than the trainee teachers teaching his class.

No illness or exceptional circumstances other than he wasn't very academic. When I was in 6th class he didn't understand how to apply multiplication. He would add the numbers together instead.

He didn't seem particularly stupid when you would talk to him but he just didn't seem to get anything academic and didn't have a great memory.

cena

Leonidas Sharp Skylight wrote: »

I knew a lad who repeated and he was 21 when he sat his leaving the second time.

I was 21 when I sat the leaving. Did the leaving cert applied before that. Wonder was it the same school

Tordelback

Some of the smartest people I knew in third level went back to re-sit the Leaving Cert when they realised that they wanted to do a different course. It's hard to know what you want when you're making subject choices at 15 and CAO forms at 17, and it's commendable that people don't take the easy route and settle for whatever they ended up with the first time.

However, the uniform allowance thing: surely anyone in the above situation is not going to be forced to wear a uniform, even if crcumstances mean they are repeating in a conventional school?

Like many I would assume the 22 limit is a rare example of the state recognising that for a host of reasons not everyone can be 17 or 18 when they are finishing 'regular' school.

GavRedKing

A guy in my 6th year was 20 sitting his LC, he was 21 in early August before the results came out.

He had been kept back in primary school more than once.

cloud493

In the college I'm in, theres a repeat LC year group. They have a couple of 30 year olds, and a 67 year old :eek:

The_B_Man

In college, you're classed as a mature student at 23. I'd imagine its part of some categorisation related to that*.
As in:
4-22 = Student
23+ = Mature student.

Students get a uniform allowance, mature students dont.


*pure guess