Brewery quarter not required

Thepikapi · 24-06-2014 4:37pm

A subway would be great, and cork does have approx 300,000 people including the metro and urban areas of the city, but we should do these changes step by step, work on things a block at a time. We need to get rid of this poisonous pessimistic attitude to everything, our city will shrivel up and die and become a wasteland if we carry on like this, making cork great is a tangible achievement!

KCAccidental · 24-06-2014 4:48pm

draiochtanois wrote: »

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no where near enough population for that line. there's about 500 people who live around the viaduct. plus it would be cost prohibitive to create a right of way or tunnel for that.

BRT from ballincollig to carraigaline via CIT, UCC, south mall, blackrock, mahon point and mount oval would be enough. with a spur to the airport. Even creating a right of way for that would be expensive due to the **** car-centric planning in Cork's Western suburbs.

if successful it could be upgraded to LRT in time.

anyways, it doesn't really have anything to do with an events centre!

Balmed Out · 24-06-2014 6:53pm

Ye arent comparing like for like population figures, Rennes is well over half a million its a much bigger city then Cork, Lausane also I believe is actually bigger then Cork. What matters most is population density and im not sure Cork has any potential line with the necessary population density.
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Thepikapi · 24-06-2014 7:51pm

Cork and Lausanne are very similar in population, Lausanne has a population density of 3,153 /km2 while Cork has a density of 3,194 /km2. In size Cork is 37.3km2 while Lausanne is 41.38 km2 (we should also take into account that a city boundary extension is proposed to take place which will increase the Corkonian population to 180,000). They are very close, I think that a light rail would work well as they're generally faster, more efficient and hold more people than a bus if a metro is out of the question.

CHealy · 25-06-2014 8:13am

Cant build a subway in Cork ffs, it is a MARSH.

Need to get a BRT sorted though as someone else mentioned. Such an easy and proactive service to implement but I doubt we'll ever see it in our lifetime.

Balmed Out · 25-06-2014 8:22am

Lausanne id bet had some other rail system that was modernized to build from scratch a system in Cork without first at least trying to get a proper bus system up and running would be madness.

CHealy · 25-06-2014 8:58am

Balmed Out wrote: »

Lausanne id bet had some other rail system that was modernized to build from scratch a system in Cork without first at least trying to get a proper bus system up and running would be madness.

Its a pity the corporation or whoever it was at the time saw fit to tarmac over the tram lines in Cork. If anything, they would have even served as a tourist attraction as I saw with the old trams in Lisbon.

Balmed Out · 25-06-2014 9:26am

CHealy wrote: »

Its a pity the corporation or whoever it was at the time saw fit to tarmac over the tram lines in Cork. If anything, they would have even served as a tourist attraction as I saw with the old trams in Lisbon.

TRUE same with lines going to west cork, would have been great for tourism but the cost of reinstating would be too high.

Pepsirebel · 25-06-2014 10:27am

dwiseman wrote: »

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It's 5 minute walk to the city centre, 2 minutes form the clarion and jurys inn for accomodation, 5 minutes from the bus station, 10 to the train station. Easy access to the south link. Within 100 metres from Golbergs bar, The idle hour and the sextant. Numerous sites within 800 metres on centre park road to create ample parking for patrons. It is the most suitable site in the county, a real no brainer.

I would agree......the cork bonded warehouse on the wedge between the north & south river channels could be renovated into restaurants/cafe bars/etc with a boardwalk wrapped around and upgrade the mooring that's there at present.

The brewery quarter could be utilised best as a brewery/smithsonian type museum.....making two new attractions in one swoop

BUNK1982 · 25-06-2014 11:26am

More good news:

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/revised-euro45m-office-block-granted-approval-273205.html

Like I've said previously, i think sort of development is perfect for the Albert Quay area but the conference center should go to the Brewery Quarter.

In any case it's bringing money and jobs back to the city centre

CHealy · 25-06-2014 11:28am

Thats great news, anything is better than the wreck that is there at the moment.

Flesh Gorden · 25-06-2014 2:39pm

Great to hear.

The design reminds me a little bit of the IFSC and AIB buildings in Dublin which are nearby the Custom House; albeit closer together

One thing I really like about travelling along the quay in Dublin is seeing the newly developed buildings blending in with the beautiful older structures which hopefully will be the case with our own City Hall, Custom House and Navigation House.

An upgrade to the wharfs on the Albert Quay side would go a long way as they're underutilized and bit of an eyesore.

AugustusMinimus · 25-06-2014 4:20pm

BUNK1982 wrote: »

More good news:

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/revised-euro45m-office-block-granted-approval-273205.html

Like I've said previously, i think sort of development is perfect for the Albert Quay area but the conference center should go to the Brewery Quarter.

In any case it's bringing money and jobs back to the city centre

Excellent news. It may sound odd, but Cork is severely lacking office space for large companies. A lot of multinationals are coming into this country and essentially their only option is to setup in Dublin due to a lack of large office space outside the capital.