Anxiety and/or depression discussion.

fiftythree

fr336 wrote: »

On the flip side, an extra hour tonight

forgot that, is it 1 or 2 the clocks sneak back?
maybe another hour of quiet time for you tonight:)

fr336

fiftythree wrote: »

forgot that, is it 1 or 2 the clocks sneak back?
maybe another hour of quiet time for you tonight:)

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fiftythree

fr336 wrote: »

Got that fearful but know I will probably be ok feeling again...it's horrible. I mean there are plenty of reasons to be fearful, but still...cop myself on...at least I can look back on the past (yes not fufilling my potential at all, however nothing absolutely appalling happened...and it's all the past now). I just want to cry but can't bring myself to it.

at least you have the know you'll be ok feeling to accompany it.
that can't be bad. wise words, lot of us aren't fulfilling the potential
but on the other hand if potential was reversed and it became worst case scenario then at least, hopefully, we aren't fulfilling that side of it either.

fr336

fiftythree wrote: »

at least you have the know you'll be ok feeling to accompany it.
that can't be bad. wise words, lot of us aren't fulfilling the potential
but on the other hand if potential was reversed and it became worst case scenario then at least, hopefully, we aren't fulfilling that side of it either.

Ah fifty I wish I could do something for you guys, or at least more online. I just wish the world was better, basically!

fiftythree

fr336 wrote: »

Ah fifty I wish I could do something for you guys, or at least more online. I just wish the world was better, basically!

i too wish the world was better, and nicer.
went for a walk today just back half an hour ago.
walked by a load of places and saw people having fun with friends
in restaurants and theatres and stuff. just being normal.
thought i am very very far away from that. i used to do that stuff.
but i gradually slipped into a state of near non functionality.
i too, mostly, think it will be ok in the end but it will take a lot of building up. years worth. but i can get there and believe anybody can.
and like you said, there is always worse states you could be in so
i am thankful that things are not as bad as they can be.

Roquentin

fiftythree wrote: »

i too wish the world was better, and nicer.
went for a walk today just back half an hour ago.
walked by a load of places and saw people having fun with friends
in restaurants and theatres and stuff. just being normal.
thought i am very very far away from that. i used to do that stuff.
but i gradually slipped into a state of near non functionality.
i too, mostly, think it will be ok in the end but it will take a lot of building up. years worth. but i can get there and believe anybody can.
and like you said, there is always worse states you could be in so
i am thankful that things are not as bad as they can be.

comfortably numb i call it.......same with myself. suffer from severe anhedonia......cant even smile some days or respond to questions and have to pretend empathy.

I have found solace in this existence though and have no interest in what normal folk do. then again im kind of afraid of what normal folk do

fr336

fiftythree wrote: »

i too wish the world was better, and nicer.
went for a walk today just back half an hour ago.
walked by a load of places and saw people having fun with friends
in restaurants and theatres and stuff. just being normal.
thought i am very very far away from that. i used to do that stuff.
but i gradually slipped into a state of near non functionality.
i too, mostly, think it will be ok in the end but it will take a lot of building up. years worth. but i can get there and believe anybody can.
and like you said, there is always worse states you could be in so
i am thankful that things are not as bad as they can be.

Tbh I think progress can be made quickly in most circumstances...there are different levels of progress to tick off, of course. Taking some pain in the form of a totally healthy lifestyle etc can kick off some really amazing strides.

fiftythree

Roquentin wrote: »

comfortably numb i call it.......same with myself. suffer from severe anhedonia......cant even smile some days or respond to questions and have to pretend empathy.

I have found solace in this existence though and have no interest in what normal folk do. then again im kind of afraid of what normal folk do

i had to look up what anhedonia meant hadn't heard before..
are you really comfortable with it?
i sometimes think what's wrong with me for not wanting to do those things.
then other times i have no interest in them. i'm quite variable in mood.
just makes me sad sometimes seeing things i used to enjoy going on around me, my ex-interests, and feel like i have lost something of myself, like something died.
it's not so much what normal folk do but more what i used to do or be when i was happier do you know what i mean?

fiftythree

fr336 wrote: »

Tbh I think progress can be made quickly in most circumstances...there are different levels of progress to tick off, of course. Taking some pain in the form of a totally healthy lifestyle etc can kick off some really amazing strides.

it could change quickly alright, now i think on it i have been in bad states before and things can change very quickly. hope so.

Hugo Stiglitz

I crave the things that make people happy yet those same things scare me deeply.

fr336

Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »

I crave the things that make people happy yet those same things scare me deeply.

Maybe you just think they scare you? One step at a time in any case...always...

Roquentin

fiftythree wrote: »

i had to look up what anhedonia meant hadn't heard before..
are you really comfortable with it?
i sometimes think what's wrong with me for not wanting to do those things.
then other times i have no interest in them. i'm quite variable in mood.
just makes me sad sometimes seeing things i used to enjoy going on around me, my ex-interests, and feel like i have lost something of myself, like something died.
it's not so much what normal folk do but more what i used to do or be when i was happier do you know what i mean?

for me i see it as a defense mechanism. i used get so anxious before a date or meeting friends or even a job interview that i would just shut down or have to psych myself up so much. but psyching yourself up for common daily activities becomes tiresome.

So id just shut down and yearn to escape. ive been doing both all my life ( shutting down and escaping).


i havent gone out in about four years. and i meet friends about once every four months.


kind of enjoy it i must say. The anxiety used kill me and the pressure to succeed and so on. it wasnt worth it.

I dont have much but im happier now than ever.

Hugo Stiglitz

fr336 wrote: »

Maybe you just think they scare you? One step at a time in any case...always...

I'm not sure if they scare me or that I just think that the scare me. Either results in self-imposed isolation.

fiftythree

Roquentin wrote: »

for me i see it as a defense mechanism. i used get so anxious before a date or meeting friends or even a job interview that i would just shut down or have to psych myself up so much. but psyching yourself up for common daily activities becomes tiresome.

So id just shut down and yearn to escape. ive been doing both all my life ( shutting down and escaping).


i havent gone out in about four years. and i meet friends about once every four months.


kind of enjoy it i must say. The anxiety used kill me and the pressure to succeed and so on. it wasnt worth it.

I dont have much but im happier now than ever.

glad you have reached a place you are comfortable. hope you are ok.
i've got to the stage now where i have no friends to meet,
i just couldn't deal with it and kept making up excuses until
eventually everyone went away.
really glad you are happy, there are loads of different ways to be content,
no one way suits everyone.

fiftythree

Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »

I crave the things that make people happy yet those same things scare me deeply.

is it worth trying to overcome the fear to get those things?

fiftythree

i have a pack of pringles anyone want a handful?

Hugo Stiglitz

fiftythree wrote: »

is it worth trying to overcome the fear to get those things?

I would imagine so but the fear is just too great at times.

fr336

fiftythree wrote: »

i have a pack of pringles anyone want a handful?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg_OIipJuds

fiftythree

Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »

I would imagine so but the fear is just too great at times.

i know. do you think it would just be initial fear or ongoing?
if it was initial fear then that would maybe make it easier.
any time i was ever afraid of anything, in the scenario you say, the fear stopping you from things you crave, i have never regretted stepping up and fighting it, but i too now feel i lack the energy to go after happiness.

Hugo Stiglitz

fiftythree wrote: »

i know. do you think it would just be initial fear or ongoing?
if it was initial fear then that would maybe make it easier.
any time i was ever afraid of anything, in the scenario you say, the fear stopping you from things you crave, i have never regretted stepping up and fighting it, but i too now feel i lack the energy to go after happiness.

I figure ongoing but I'm not too sure.

I'm not much of a fighter though.

fiftythree

fr336 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg_OIipJuds

ok here's a few for you all. leave some for me now, don't take the mick.
they're " Xtra Kickin' " apparently. so be careful.
i can't even figure out how to post pictures of crisps. god i'm stupid!

fiftythree

fiftythree

not stupid anymore. have a crisp guys. they're delicious. yum yum.

fr336

fiftythree wrote: »

not stupid anymore. have a crisp guys. they're delicious. yum yum.

Ahh I love the look of them! Gimme gimme

fiftythree

fr336 wrote: »

Ahh I love the look of them! Gimme gimme

work away i'm stuffed now i've half of the tube eaten. they're a bit extreme alright but i wouldn't call them kickin'. not sure what that would mean in reference to a crisp.
they're certainly not going about kicking anything so i think that is misleading and silly.
nice snacks though all the same.

Hugo Stiglitz

Lots of bad taste posts in here.

Sour cream & onion = yuck!

fiftythree

Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »

Lots of bad taste posts in here.

Sour cream & onion = yuck!

:eek: next thing you'll be saying cheese and onion is over rated:eek:

Hugo Stiglitz

fiftythree wrote: »

:eek: next thing you'll be saying cheese and onion is over rated:eek:

No, cheese & onion is a classic!

fiftythree

Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »

No, cheese & onion is a classic!

thank god for that. i knew you had class.
sour cream and onion suits the pringle i feel but not the normal crisp.
when it comes to a real crisp once they invented cheese and onion
they should have hung up their flavour inventing boots.

Hugo Stiglitz

fiftythree wrote: »

thank god for that. i knew you had class.
sour cream and onion suits the pringle i feel but not the normal crisp.
when it comes to a real crisp once they invented cheese and onion
they should have hung up their flavour inventing boots.

Salt & vinegar is nice too. Also buffalo.