Anxiety and/or depression discussion.

Wilberto

CZ 453 wrote: »

Stay strong.
How long are you on them and what dosage? What are you on?

Venlafex 37.5mg. One a day. I know I've only been on them two weeks but I'm not holding out much hope that they'll even start to make a difference. It's the first time on meds so I'm heading back to the GP on Tuesday (or maybe Monday if I can't wait that long)

So far the only thing they've managed to achieve is dilating my pupils for the first three or four days.

Esel

Wilberto wrote: »

Well, I've established that these meds are pretty pointless! :rolleyes:

2 weeks is nowhere near long enough to expect a positive response. 6-8 weeks is more realistic. Give them time!

Wilberto wrote: »

Today was absolutely awful again. This anxiety and paranoia is crippling me in work and, as a result, I find it so difficult to focus myself and hence find myself making stupid errors etc. I just know my account manager (who just happens to be probably the nicest person in there) is growing so frustrated with me, and I don't blame her. I'm frustrated with myself, and it's not fair on her that she has to deal with this.

Try to tell yourself that soon you will begin to feel better. Soon, as I said above, might be 8 weeks from now - but that is soon.

Wilberto wrote: »

I'm really not sure how much longer I can keep fighting this. I feel like, at this stage I'm of no use to anyone anyway so what harm.

It is not a fight though. It is a journey. On a journey, however long (or short) it is, we can get bored / tired / dejected / depressed / anxious / paranoid. Then, we arrive, and realise we have survived the ordeal. Relatively soon afterwards ( weeks / months / years ), we remember the journey differently - maybe not as an ordeal, more of an adventure.

tl/dr:

2 weeks and you are writing them off? Give them 8 weeks at least.

You don't plant a seed and dig it up every week to see if it is growing. Eventually, the plant will appear above ground. Let it grow.

Talk to your doctor (or more easily / more informative / cheaper) talk to your pharmacist.

Edit: Just saw your later post above. 37.5mg venlafaxine is the lowest dose (I think; IANAD). Talk to your doctor - they may want to increase the dose - sounds like your doctor was being conservative (a good thing, usually).

Stick with it for another 6 weeks at least - or even another 8 weeks. Keep in touch with your doctor too.

Sounds like your manager is on-board / supportive. This is great.

Soon, I hope, your perspective will change radically.

fiftythree

hope you are all alright tonight guys.
bye.

53

CZ 453

fiftythree wrote: »

hope you are all alright tonight guys.
bye.

53

You off to bed? How are you? 3 more days and you're out of that place,ya?

fiftythree

CZ 453 wrote: »

You off to bed? How are you? 3 more days and you're out of that place,ya?

should be 453, complicated.but landlord being awkward.
very. things got even worse here.
don.t want to get into it,
will post back later literally don't have the energy now.

i have been unwell last few days,
think i am just run down. been in bed all the time.

now 2 drunk heroin addicts living in my living room.
landlord is their friends, says if i give notice i lose my deposit.

thanks for thinking of me.
53

mg1982

That was one long day. it was a long tough day in new job, dont know if i will be up to it in longer term but will stick it out as long as i can. Unfortunatley in this life its hard to get by without money, otherwise i would live on an island somewhere away from the madness of modern life. Hope u guys are ok.

handbagmad

Wilberto wrote: »

Venlafex 37.5mg. One a day. I know I've only been on them two weeks but I'm not holding out much hope that they'll even start to make a difference. It's the first time on meds so I'm heading back to the GP on Tuesday (or maybe Monday if I can't wait that long)

So far the only thing they've managed to achieve is dilating my pupils for the first three or four days.

hi just saw your post. Thought id share my 2cents. Im on venlafex 75mg have been on it now 2years.
the first few weeks, I remember weren't the nicest. It takes a while for everything to even out in the body system.
I've been on various doses of this antiD.
75mg seems to be a suiting therapeutic dose now for me.

By all means go back to your GP as you should be monitored closely whilst starting new meds.

Don't know if this is any help.
Hang on in there it will get better

handbagmad

fiftythree wrote: »

should be 453, complicated.but landlord being awkward.
very. things got even worse here.
don.t want to get into it,
will post back later literally don't have the energy now.

i have been unwell last few days,
think i am just run down. been in bed all the time.

now 2 drunk heroin addicts living in my living room.
landlord is their friends, says if i give notice i lose my deposit.

thanks for thinking of me.
53

53, you seem to be going through an awful Time of it.
I hope your safe.
Try rest and get some sleep.
Things will get better mate.
H.

alaskayoung

Hey guys, I'd appreciate some advice if possible. I have an appointment with my GP on Thursday but am unsure what to do in the meantime.

Went to see him last Friday and he decided to put me on 5mg Lexapro. This is as far as I know is the absolute minimum dose but he said as I'm only 18 he'll see if that's enough and he can always up it if necessary. He said the only side effects I may experience is some sleepiness and mild nausea but as it's such a low dose, nothing major.

Started taking it and within a first few hours the first day, I was feeling really high. Just extreme happiness for no reason, felt like dancing, running around etc. It passed after awhile so didn't pay any attention to it really. Continued taking it, for 3 days and the only side effects I experienced were poor concentration, jaw tension, sore teeth as a result and mood swings, some big some not. From reading online, most side effects of antidepressants disappear within a few weeks and it wasn't anything unmanageable so again, didn't give it much thought.

Then the day before yesterday, I woke up at 4am feeling in a very above average mood for no reason. Took the Lexapro as usual in the morning, went to school, and within a few hours felt absolutely insane. Really, really hyper, sitting in class and couldn't sit still whatsoever, shaking, wringing my hands, clawing myself with my nails, mind racing, hadn't a clue what was going on around me. At lunchtime, was moving way too quickly, kept bashing into things, almost fell down the stairs, speaking too fast, just really giddy, laughing at everything (friends were staring at me).

After a few hours, I just crashed, felt absolutely exhausted, almost fell asleep, no focus etc. Then, at around 8 o'clock started feeling really high again, on my own and just laughing for no reason, beaming and pacing around the house, mom said I was behaving really drunk. I managed to sleep for 2 hours and then woke at 2am bursting with energy, wanted to go running, bake a cake, everything just seemed like an awesome idea. Never went back to sleep and decided not to take the Lexapro in the morning as felt that would just throw me over the edge.Now that I haven't taken it, I feel like I've gone through every single possible emotion in the past 24 hours, all very intense. Just an emotional rollercoaster.

Tried to talk to my GP yesterday to ask if I should stick with the Lexapro or not but he wasn't working. I guess I'm just wondering if I'm doing the right thing by not taking it. My reaction seems very abnormal, especially on such a low dose. Reading the information leaflet that comes with the drug, none of these side effects are listed but under the warning about taking it with Bipolar Disorder. Is this an indication that I may have this? Pure internet diagnosis here, but the type 2 seems to fit me pretty well.. Just pretty confused at the moment, sorry this is so long!

cookie24

hey guys, just wanna check in. something foreign happening to me....i woke up and have being crying for the last 2 hours, I know alcohol is a depressant but never had it this bad before. maybe its a combo of meds and alcohol but they just keep spilling tears. quite disconcerting

daedal

cookie 24... it's anxiety, common effect from alcohol withdrawal.. your brain is gonna make you feel like you did something wrong last night, even if you didn't.. it's a pretty ****ed reaction from alcohol.. just remember you did nothing wrong, you are a great person and everybody still loves you.. hope it helps.. I am the same the day after booze..

Hugo Stiglitz

Alcohol can be a right disaster for those like us. I rarely drink and when I do, I only drink small as I'm a total lightweight (:o) but every now and then when I have a drink, it hits like like a ton of bricks - utterly brings me right down and anxious.

Gongoozler

Maybe that's what's up with me today, had a glass of wine last night. Though the things bothering me have always bothered me.

loveisdivine

I had 2 glasses of wine last night and it really disturbed my sleep. Kept having disturbing strange dreams. Then this morning I've started worrying about something that (I thought) I had already put behind me.

Call Me Jimmy

Drink brings out the feelings that are going on underneath that I might not be aware of or be acknowledging. So it appears to be for 'no reason' but in my case anyway it's usually just releasing things I've tried to bottle.

Odd light today, very wintery vibe reminds of playing football when I was younger very good memories though, wish they weren't just memories. A long-term dream would be to get back playing football.

Hugo Stiglitz

You should look into the football again Jimmy.

cookie24

just checking in again guys (when i say guys it includes both sexes). drinking again, I know its a coping mechanism and I've shamed myself a few times; but its the only way I can go and meet people in a social situation.
Hope everyone else is doing OK, and 53 hope your move/accommodation situation is going well.

Remember...inhale he positivity, exhale the negativity.....and the exhalation may be tears, bus thats OK as well. Cried for about 2 hours earlier on. Didn't know what was happening, just sad I guess.

Best to all our peeps out there

Freezing!!

cookie24 wrote: »

just checking in again guys (when i say guys it includes both sexes). drinking again, I know its a coping mechanism and I've shamed myself a few times; but its the only way I can go and meet people in a social situation.

It's not ideal but as long as you drink in moderation and don't feel terrible after a few drinks I wouldn't consider it a big deal. I've been known to do the same on occasion and found it quite helpful. Obviously you should be aiming to not need the alcohol though.

Hugo Stiglitz

Freezing!! wrote: »

It's not ideal but as long as you drink in moderation and don't feel terrible after a few drinks I wouldn't consider it a big deal. I've been known to do the same on occasion and found it quite helpful. Obviously you should be aiming to not need the alcohol though.

I agree Freezing

Call Me Jimmy

cookie24 wrote: »

just checking in again guys (when i say guys it includes both sexes). drinking again, I know its a coping mechanism and I've shamed myself a few times; but its the only way I can go and meet people in a social situation.
Hope everyone else is doing OK, and 53 hope your move/accommodation situation is going well.

Remember...inhale he positivity, exhale the negativity.....and the exhalation may be tears, bus thats OK as well. Cried for about 2 hours earlier on. Didn't know what was happening, just sad I guess.

Best to all our peeps out there

When I go out I take all sorts of everything but for me, socialising is so rare that anything that gets me in that spot is fine. I'll take the consequences.

Another weekend in for me though. Time takes on an odd quality when there's nothing to mark it

Hugo Stiglitz

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

Another weekend in for me though. Time takes on an odd quality when there's nothing to mark it

Nicely said Jimmy. Another boring and lonely weekend in here too.

Gongoozler

I know how I feel is temporary, but I don't know how to stop myself feeling overwhelmingly awful. At the time, it feels like I'll never be ok again, but evidence has shown otherwise. Or then maybe it hasn't. Maybe my 'normal' is really just a pretence or hope, because I can't stay sad and upset ALL the time.

I hate when I don't know whether or not to break up with someone. I can't figure it out for myself, I'm too involved and can't see things how other people see things. I need impartial views on the situation and I just don''t have it. I'm tired of not being able to trust my own opinion. It's so unsettling. And I never know for sure if someone's being a dick to me.

cookie24

Gongoozler wrote: »

I know how I feel is temporary, but I don't know how to stop myself feeling overwhelmingly awful. At the time, it feels like I'll never be ok again, but evidence has shown otherwise. Or then maybe it hasn't. Maybe my 'normal' is really just a pretence or hope, because I can't stay sad and upset ALL the time.

I hate when I don't know whether or not to break up with someone. I can't figure it out for myself, I'm too involved and can't see things how other people see things. I need impartial views on the situation and I just don''t have it. I'm tired of not being able to trust my own opinion. It's so unsettling. And I never know for sure if someone's being a dick to me.

Apologies. I didn't read past that. More positive. Eventually we will all be fine. And you will be OK. Even more than that....you will excel. We all will

cookie24

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

When I go out I take all sorts of everything but for me, socialising is so rare that anything that gets me in that spot is fine. I'll take the consequences.

Another weekend in for me though. Time takes on an odd quality when there's nothing to mark it

socializing is rare for me as well, and every tine is baed ob being drunk before I actually meet people. I hate that about myself, but trying to keep my thoughts postive and grow my confidence.
Baby steps

Hugo Stiglitz

Socialising is near non-existent here. I hate that I'm so closed off to people.

cookie24

a message i typed from earlier but didn't post.....

the way it is now....i drink maybe 6 bottles before I meet people, and then have fun for about 2 hours before I blackout drunk.
Don't have the balls yet to go in sober. I know I'm trying to be positive, and that will be a big step (meeting people sober).
Still tryingto be postive thought.

Do you think musc has anything to do with it? Not music inflen

timecurve12

CZ 453 wrote: »

You have your GP, Counselling service, Psychs, your family, few friends and us lot on here. Plenty of support.

Is making friends a problem? Or is it getting out of the bed? or both? What is it you want to change?

One friend is better than 30 acquaintances.

What is it that is going wrong? Your efforts at doing anything or making friends?

Are you holding yourself to a certain standard that you don't think you are meeting?

thanks to everyone who replied. I feel blessed.

Yes making friends is a problem, it's killing me that I can't seem to find anyone. People don't seem to appreciate me, I have no idea why. I'm getting out of bed and being functional but inside it's like I'm dying of some pernicious disease. Nearly everything I have done to try and change things, every good thing that gives me hop seems to have turned around. It's like a cruel joke, I have no idea why things go like that for me, it makes no sense. When I make friends they end up totally rejecting me or ignoring me (and I don't know why).

Hugo Stiglitz

timecurve12 wrote: »

Yes making friends is a problem, it's killing me that I can't seem to find anyone. People don't seem to appreciate me, I have no idea why. I'm getting out of bed and being functional but inside it's like I'm dying of some pernicious disease. Nearly everything I have done to try and change things, every good thing that gives me hop seems to have turned around. It's like a cruel joke, I have no idea why things go like that for me, it makes no sense. When I make friends they end up totally rejecting me or ignoring me (and I don't know why).

This is me too TC12.

Gongoozler

What's the difference between all the different types of therapist? Counsellor, psychotherapist, psychologist etc?

I've tried a good few things over the years, and really with no success. I've tried saying I want cbt with one and she just kept me talking, it wasn't cbt at all. I did the aware cbt course a while back, but I need help with a lot of things that I just can't shake. I've wasted so much money on this stuff, I don't want to waste any more. I need to find someone who knows what to do with me.

Gongoozler

Actually **** that. I feel like I just can't live like this anymore. I'm going nowhere, I can't get the **** out of my head. I see it like I have one last ditch attempt at getting help then I'm done. How do you get into St Pats or somewhere?