Fantasy Premier League PreSeason Prep

F1ngers

Shedite27 wrote: »

You're as weel off. Every second day there's someone moving club who becomes a "must-have"

I'd put him a 50/50 chance between being the next star and flop.

We don't do stars, unfortunately.

Backstreet Moyes

Is Hazard a must have this season. Free kicks, penalties, dribbling and finally a top class striker to assist.

CSF

Nuts102 wrote: »

Is Hazard a must have this season. Free kicks, penalties, dribbling and finally a top class striker to assist.

I think so.

CSF

Nuts102 wrote: »

Rooney dropping back is because of United's lack of ability in the centre of the midfield. They have nobody with any quality to get the ball forward forcing Rooney to drop deep taking him away from goal. I am watching with interest Herrera was very good going forward the other night and if United get another quality midfielder Rooney is a bargain. He was one of the top scorers last season with little or no service. If United have two good midfielders supporting Mata allowing Rooney to stay up top he will be score very heavy imo.

I don't see Herrera having THAT big an impact if I'm honest.

Iused2likebusts

CSF wrote: »

I don't see Herrera having THAT big an impact if I'm honest.

Either do I Rvp rooney and mata should be the 3 in advanced positions.

Dont be at yourself

Nuts102 wrote: »

Is Hazard a must have this season. Free kicks, penalties, dribbling and finally a top class striker to assist.

Will go for Fabregas, myself. Mou and Hazard don't always see eye-to-eye, and he's competing with Willian, Oscar, Schuerrle -- can definitely see him dropped/rested over the course of the season.

I think Fabregas will play every minute possible, and his stats at Arsenal were incredible.

Backstreet Moyes

CSF wrote: »

I don't see Herrera having THAT big an impact if I'm honest.

Herrera can't do it alone he needs a good quality midfielder beside him if he does then Rooney will score heavy.

Backstreet Moyes

Dont be at yourself wrote: »

Will go for Fabregas, myself. Mou and Hazard don't always see eye-to-eye, and he's competing with Willian, Oscar, Schuerrle -- can definitely see him dropped/rested over the course of the season.

I think Fabregas will play every minute possible, and his stats at Arsenal were incredible.

Hazard is a class above his competition. Fabregas will have tougher competition and could be rotated.

manual_man

people speculating way too much on United. lets keep to the facts. they were utterly abysmal last season. new coach in LVG who has good track record. 3/4 of the back 4 that has been so succesful over the years are now gone. 2 promising young signings but as yet unproven at the top level. they've played ONE pre-season game, against poor opposition. 7-0. whoopedy doo. upcoming friendlies in this champions cup thing may give a very slightly better idea of things, but ultimately they're friendlies, non-competitive, 'make sure and give everyone a run-out' type of affairs, not to be taken very seriously in the grand scheme of things. i'm not discounting United getting off to a good start (they certainly have a very kind opening fixture list), but i just have to lol when i see some people with 3 of their players in their fpl setup, when you consider all the changes(manager, personnel), coupled with last season's form. Rooney is the only one i could argue seriously for - 190 points last year a very impressive haul all considering. picking anyone else is an utter gamble if you ask me

Lucas Hood

I'm a United fan myself and even I believe people are definitely reading too much into a win over a poor La Galaxy team.

MagicIRL

7-0 flatters, but to say Shaw and Herrera are unproven is a bit bizzare, especially since Shaw just stole the show at LB last season. You only need to see Herrara playing for Bilbao against United to see he's got ability.


Right now, De Gea is a must imo, as in RVP. Hopefully more singings come in and things open up a bit. We'll just have to wait and see.

manual_man

I said unproven at the top level. Please don't misquote me

ShaneU

La Liga and Premier League aren't top level now?

manual_man

ShaneU wrote: »

La Liga and Premier League aren't top level now?

Top level as in playing with a top team. Deepest apologies if that was unclear

CSF

ShaneU wrote: »

La Liga and Premier League aren't top level now?

Neither Herrera nor Shaw are proven quality at these levels. They've just played in them and showed potential.

Scorpion Sting

He's back!

BBC Sport @BBCSport
Didier Drogba rejoins Chelsea on a one-year contract. More to follow #cfc

NoviGlitzko

jebforever wrote: »

He's back!

I'm a United fan but I love him!

The Wild Bunch

2 things

Cabella or De Jong as better value in terms of Newcastle midfielders?

Is Giroud worth sticking in from the outset?

Gatame

The Wild Bunch wrote: »

2 things

Cabella or De Jong as better value in terms of Newcastle midfielders?

Is Giroud worth sticking in from the outset?

I'm going for De Jong although I fancy Riviere as the lone striker @7.0 for what I hope is a much improved newcastle team.

Without Ozil out for the first few games after the WC I think Giroud should definitely be starting and that makes him great value at 8.5, at least for the start.

The Wild Bunch

Cheers for that

Also, a lot of people going with Mannone. Surely Pantimillon wouldn't have left being NUmber 2 at City tobecome Number 2 at Sunderland?

CSF

The Wild Bunch wrote: »

Cheers for that

Also, a lot of people going with Mannone. Surely Pantimillon wouldn't have left being NUmber 2 at City tobecome Number 2 at Sunderland?

He might if he thought he had a better chance of winning the number 1 jersey, doesn't mean it'll necessarily happen though

8-10

Sounds like Remy to Liverpool is off

The Wild Bunch

Ings or Austin or whichever is the best 6 million striker??

CSF

The Wild Bunch wrote: »

Ings or Austin or whichever is the best 6 million striker??

Hard to call I think, I haven't decided between the 2 yet.

Backstreet Moyes

The Wild Bunch wrote: »

Cheers for that

Also, a lot of people going with Mannone. Surely Pantimillon wouldn't have left being NUmber 2 at City tobecome Number 2 at Sunderland?

Mannone was their player of the year last season as far as i remember. Strange move by Pantimillon but i will be shocked if Mannone is not first choice.

NoviGlitzko

What is Liverpools starting four? Any place for Jose Enrique back from injury?

Dont be at yourself

NoviGlitzko wrote: »

What is Liverpools starting four? Any place for Jose Enrique back from injury?

Very hard to say... Lovren and Sakho are both big money Rodgers signings, and he seems to rate Flanagan. But whether he'll drop Skrtel and one of Johnson/Enrique remains to be seen. Don't think there's any guaranteed starters at the moment...

bicboy6666

who do you reckon has the easiest start bar united, Chelsea? arsenal? spurs?

8-10

bicboy6666 wrote: »

who do you reckon has the easiest start bar united, Chelsea? arsenal? spurs?

Chelsea

bicboy6666

8-10 wrote: »

Chelsea

im thinking Fab & Cahill, also put in eriksen & soldado spurs have a soft start.

The Wild Bunch

Rodgers couldn't organise a defence at Watford, Reading or Swansea, so I wouldn't hold much hope of him doing anything at Liverpool

kennyb3

The Wild Bunch wrote: »

Rodgers couldn't organise a defence at Watford, Reading or Swansea, so I wouldn't hold much hope of him doing anything at Liverpool

13 clean sheets with the Swans 2011/12 season?

Lemlin

The Wild Bunch wrote: »

Rodgers couldn't organise a defence at Watford, Reading or Swansea, so I wouldn't hold much hope of him doing anything at Liverpool

As pointed out above, Swansea were great for clean sheets under him.

The Wild Bunch

80 goals conceded in 50 games at Watford and Reading
120 goals conceded in 2 seasons at Swansea
120 goals conc$eded in 2 seasons at Liverpool

If that's not piss poor defensive management i dont know what is

manual_man

i think it's fair to expect Liverpool to tighten up a bit at the back this season, Lovren should help, and (possibly) a new left back

Skrtel is firmly on my radar, he's looked very solid in pre-season and i expect him to command a starting place, though i'll wait a few games and see. A goal every five games average last season simply can't be ignored

Iused2likebusts

manual_man wrote: »

i think it's fair to expect Liverpool to tighten up a bit at the back this season, Lovren should help, and (possibly) a new left back

Skrtel is firmly on my radar, he's looked very solid in pre-season and i expect him to command a starting place, though i'll wait a few games and see. A goal every five games average last season simply can't be ignored

A goal every 3 if you include ogs

Oranage2

What are people's opinions on sterling, he seems to be having a great pre season, my only doubts about him is he's a young player that's a rotation risk.

manual_man

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

A goal every 3 if you include ogs

well thankfully it's only -2 for an own goal! didn't realise he got THREE of them tho :eek: still, joking or no, that's -6pts vs +42pts(+ baps) on the scoring front

x43r0

manual_man wrote: »

i think it's fair to expect Liverpool to tighten up a bit at the back this season, Lovren should help, and (possibly) a new left back

Skrtel is firmly on my radar, he's looked very solid in pre-season and i expect him to command a starting place, though i'll wait a few games and see. A goal every five games average last season simply can't be ignored

Skrtel's place is by no means assured this season. Lovren-Sakho will be the first choice pair going forward. I think Skrtel will start the season in the first XI but I don't expect him to stay in the team once Lovren settles

Iused2likebusts

manual_man wrote: »

well thankfully it's only -2 for an own goal! didn't realise he got THREE of them tho :eek: still, joking or no, that's -6pts vs +42pts(+ baps) on the scoring front

I was joking he was prolific at both ends to be fair.

Lemlin

The Wild Bunch wrote: »

80 goals conceded in 50 games at Watford and Reading
120 goals conceded in 2 seasons at Swansea
120 goals conc$eded in 2 seasons at Liverpool

If that's not piss poor defensive management i dont know what is

Goals conceded don't really matter in this game. It's all about clean sheets. Alot of the time a team might as well concede 3 as concede one.

Rodgers last three seasons (stats from here http://www.statbunker.com/competitions/Top10KeepersCleanSheets?comp_id=449)

Swansea 11-12: 12
Liverpool 12-13: 15
Liverpool 13-14: 8
Total: 35

That's an average of nearly 12 a season. It's a fairly decent record for me.

manual_man

x43r0 wrote: »

Skrtel's place is by no means assured this season. Lovren-Sakho will be the first choice pair going forward. I think Skrtel will start the season in the first XI but I don't expect him to stay in the team once Lovren settles

Personally i think Lovren/Sakho will rotate in PL games and in Europe, with Skrtel the ever-present. I think Rogers values Skrtel for his leadership skills & experience. We'll see though

manual_man

Oranage2 wrote: »

What are people's opinions on sterling, he seems to be having a great pre season, my only doubts about him is he's a young player that's a rotation risk.

could be a differential

Lemlin

x43r0 wrote: »

Skrtel's place is by no means assured this season. Lovren-Sakho will be the first choice pair going forward. I think Skrtel will start the season in the first XI but I don't expect him to stay in the team once Lovren settles

Last year Skrtel was close to leaving. Benitez wanted him at Napoli. I don't think Rodgers is overly enthused with him.

manual_man

Lemlin wrote: »

Last year Skrtel was close to leaving. Benitez wanted him at Napoli. I don't think Rodgers is overly enthused with him.

he was our best defender in the 2nd half of the season. firmly in Rogers plans i.m.o.

Lemlin

manual_man wrote: »

he was our best defender in the 2nd half of the season. firmly in Rogers plans i.m.o.

You're a Liverpool supporter so you'd know more than me but I'm just wondering why he's signed Lovren if he's happy with what they have.

manual_man

Lemlin wrote: »

You're a Liverpool supporter so you'd know more than me but I'm just wondering why he's signed Lovren if he's happy with what they have.

i believe he's happy with Skrtel. Agger no, who will almost definitely leave b4 the transfer window shuts. Sakho has yet to prove himself. we're looking for a LB too. all things considered i think Skrtel will be 1st choice CB. but like i said, we'll see. if he starts the first few games then i'll seriously be considering him. GW2 and 3 dont promise much for clean sheets, GW4 on is a lot more promising

Oranage2

I think Rodgers will do with lovren what he did with sakho last season and that was not to play him at the start until agger or sakho mess up. But Liverpool have some very tough fixtures I can't see Why anybody would be looking at any of their defenders so early.

Also anyone having second thoughts on debuchy? He picked up a good few yellows last season, arsenal have a tough start and he also has some slight competition from chambers, a cheap way into the arsenal defense but I think I'll be looking at other options.