Irish water truth

Uepped

This is a fact that the RTE and Dennis O'Brian media wont tell you, Irish water have no way of cutting of your water if you don't pay the bill. sure they can come around and switch it off at the mains but all you have to do, is lift up the manhole and turn it back on.

Drakares

Just pay the water charges and stop being a complete idiot.

Tabnabs

Folks, don't go lifting up manholes, that's where the poop goes...

kneemos

Uepped wrote: »

This is a fact that the RTE and Dennis O'Brian media wont tell you, Irish water have no way of cutting of your water if you don't pay the bill. sure they can come around and switch it off at the mains but all you have to do, is lift up the manhole and turn it back on.

They already said it won't be turned off.

Coat22

I’d be fairly sure, now that they have a meter at the point where the water turns into every home, that there will be some way of doing this.

Just pay for your bloody water like the rest of the civilised world.

Robbo

Uepped wrote: »

This is a fact that the RTE and Dennis O'Brian media wont tell you, Irish water have no way of cutting of your water if you don't pay the bill. sure they can come around and switch it off at the mains but all you have to do, is lift up the manhole and turn it back on.

What's more is that if you go out into your back garden with a bucket half the days of the year, free water comes literally from the sky. The Illumnati have been keeping this quiet but I've seen it with my own eyes.

In your face Phil Hogan.

Shiraz 4.99

Costs about €2,500 to sink a well
Water charges average €240
Well pays for itself in 10 Years
???????
Profit

corkgsxr

Shiraz 4.99 wrote: »

Costs about €2,500 to sink a well
Water charges average €240
Well pays for itself in 10 Years
???????
Profit

Dont forget to include repairs. I dont know anything that runs for ten years trouble free.


and they've already sed they wont turn it off they reduce the pressure till its near useless. And its a insert so not just turn a valve

My name is URL

Shiraz 4.99 wrote: »

Costs about €2,500 to sink a well
Water charges average €240
Well pays for itself in 10 Years
???????
Profit

Isn't there talk of charging people with their own wells for yearly 'inspections' or something?

bear1

They never said they would turn it off (I believe they are not allowed to switch off the water) but they can reduce it to a minimum.
This Irish Water stuff is getting blown out of proportion. Some of us have been paying for water already via local schemes etc.
Most of the civilised world have been paying for water for years and now it's our turn, it sucks yes but c'est la vie.
I won't be tampering with the meters though and I'll be paying for the water as I have been doing for many years.

Links234

Robbo wrote: »

What's more is that if you go out into your back garden with a bucket half the days of the year, free water comes literally from the sky. The Illumnati have been keeping this quiet but I've seen it with my own eyes.

In your face Phil Hogan.

Also, the water in Ireland is contaminated with flouride and flu vaccines WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!

wretcheddomain

Links234 wrote: »

Also, the water in Ireland is contaminated with flouride and flu vaccines WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!

This type of thing is usually spouted from folks who took in too much fluoride.

Davarus Walrus

Denis O'Brien has really become the archetypal Montgomery Burns type villain for the Irish online crank community.

Hande hoche!

Should probably mention chemtrails at this stage.

SEPT 23 1989

dont fiddle with the manhole

c_man

Coat22 wrote: »

Just pay for your bloody water like the rest of the civilised world.

So, wait you think that all labour and materials involved in water distribution and services for the past few decades have been free?

Daith

Coat22 wrote: »

Just pay for your bloody water like the rest of the civilised world.

We already do. We are just paying more now but hopefully it will lead to an improvement.

sligoface

When our water get privatized and the price skyrockets we'll really wish we made more of a stand on this. TV license/broadcast charge, bin charges, water charges, property tax, we just bend over and take it all. They made this tax up and put in meters to justify it.

Banjo String

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

Denis O'Brien has really become the archetypal Montgomery Burns type villain for the Irish online crank community.

Well funny you mention this. Just filled my tank with diesel there at Topaz in Dublin port. Just heard an ad over the tannoy system that the lpt can now be paid in Topaz too.

Get that. A Topaz. A fcuking Topaz (of all places), Topaz of course (coincidentally) owned by whom?

Dennis has his finger in every pie.

The Backwards Man

sligoface wrote: »

When our water get privatized and the price skyrockets we'll really wish we made more of a stand on this. TV license/broadcast charge, bin charges, water charges, property tax, we just bend over and take it all. They made this tax up and put in meters to justify it.

Yeah, the citizens of no other country would accept water charges. Why should we?

BeerWolf

Tabnabs wrote: »

Folks, don't go lifting up manholes, that's where the poop goes...

There's servicing manholes ye nab -.-;

Banjo String

A Greedy Algorithm wrote: »

Apparently the International Space Station can recycle its water over and over again.

1. Build an International Space Station in Ireland
2. Recycle water
3. ?????????
4. PROFIT!!!!!!

No need for that gadgetry....

We should follow the Kenyans lead.

With 20 Euro only, you can provide clean water for one child for one year.

http://www.globalnature.org/31824/PROJECTS/Water-Living-Lakes/Drinking-Water-Filter/02_vorlage.asp http://www.globalnature.org/31824/PROJECTS/Water-Living-Lakes/Drinking-Water-Filter/02_vorlage.asp

ArtyM

Tabnabs wrote: »

Folks, don't go lifting up manholes, that's where the poop goes...

Dont be ridiculous.
Poop goes in the toilet and when you flush it goes down the pipes to the daily Mail where it gets used to create their content.

Lucifer MorningStar

Drakares wrote: »

Just pay the water charges and stop being a complete idiot.

Is that you Enda ?

ben.schlomo

Links234 wrote: »

Also, the water in Ireland is contaminated with flouride and flu vaccines WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!

How did you forget the oestrogen from the pill?

Augmerson

Links234 wrote: »

Also, the water in Ireland is contaminated with flouride and flu vaccines WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!

Jesus can people stop using sheeple. Nothing alienates people more from listening to your idea, opinion or view than hearing sheeple.

Lemlin

sligoface wrote: »

When our water get privatized and the price skyrockets we'll really wish we made more of a stand on this. TV license/broadcast charge, bin charges, water charges, property tax, we just bend over and take it all. They made this tax up and put in meters to justify it.

In Northern Ireland they call them "rates". Maybe we should adopt a name change and forget all the fuss.

The average down there is €950 a year, in a country where welfare payments are far lower than here and the average income is €8,000 less than here.

eviltimeban

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

dont fiddle with the manhole

That's what she said last night.

Augmerson

Augmerson wrote: »

Jesus can people stop using sheeple. Nothing alienates people more from listening to your idea, opinion or view than hearing sheeple.

I think she was joking :pac::pac:

PizzamanIRL

Don't pay and have a drip-by-drip shower and poo in the garden.

Robbo

sligoface wrote: »

When our water get privatized and the price skyrockets we'll really wish we made more of a stand on this. TV license/broadcast charge, bin charges, water charges, property tax, we just bend over and take it all. They made this tax up and put in meters to justify it.

Isn't this usually where someone makes a **** gag that "they'd tax the air we breathe if they could get away with it, ho ho ho"?

hatrickpatrick

My name is URL wrote: »

Isn't there talk of charging people with their own wells for yearly 'inspections' or something?

O_o
Source?
If this is true then it's taking the absolute piss, and whatever about water charges I hope everyone can agree that such a suggestion is an obvious scam.

Uepped

Uepped wrote: »

This is a fact that the RTE and Dennis O'Brian media wont tell you, Irish water have no way of cutting of your water if you don't pay the bill. sure they can come around and switch it off at the mains but all you have to do, is lift up the manhole and turn it back on.

What an inaccurate thread title I was hoping for the outing of some scam or conspiracy

Banjo String

Lemlin wrote: »

In Northern Ireland they call them "rates". Maybe we should adopt a name change and forget all the fuss.

The average down there is €950 a year, in a country where welfare payments are far lower than here and the average income is €8,000 less than here.

950.

I pay almost 4 times that in usc. What's their avg usc per year?

Lemlin

Banjo String wrote: »

950.

I pay almost 4 times that in usc. What's their avg usc per year?

That might add up to the higher cost of your wages.

Irish water truth - rural people have been paying water charges for years.

folan

i wasn't sure if the thread title was a new type of branded water.

Knob Longman

Drakares wrote: »

Just pay the water charges and stop being a complete idiot.

Yea He should be a good little man and do as he is told.

folan

Knob Longman wrote: »

Yea He should be a good little man and do as he is told.

yes

Banjo String

Lemlin wrote: »

That might add up to the higher cost of your wages.

It might, but it knocks the shıte out of your domestic rate comparison. Don't even go there with vat rates, free health care, refuse collection and school books fees.

Lemlin wrote: »

Irish water truth - rural people have been paying water charges for years.

Everyone has been paying water charges for years. Via income tax, vat and commercial rates.

Links234

bluewolf wrote: »

I think she was joking :pac::pac:

Oh no! Now the water fluoridation is even effecting people's humour detectors! :eek: When will the madness end!? :pac:

MRnotlob606

Drakares wrote: »

Just pay the water charges and stop being a complete idiot.

Water charges should not even exist , suggesting someone to pay them sounds like such an alien Idea, especially for water that passes through an outdated underground infrastructure in many places in this country, water is an Inalienable right to the development of human beings, it has always been a free resource and its no wonder that they want to put a price on it in times of recession. its just a pseudo tax.

I quote, from the UN On 28 July 2010, through Resolution 64/292, the United Nations General Assembly explicitly recognized the human right to water and sanitation and acknowledged that clean drinking water and sanitation are essential to the realization of all human rights.

Not too mention its going to be a gravy train to the chairwoman Rose Hynes who is no stranger to state run bureaucratic organisations, I Quote from The Irish Times Hynes is the chairwoman of both Bord Gáis and Irish Water, to which she was appointed in July, 2013. She has been chairwoman of Bord Gáis since July, 2009, and also sits on its remuneration and investment and infrastructure committees. A lawyer by profession, she is also chairwoman of the Shannon Airport Authority and is a director of Total Produce and One Fifty One. She previously served on the boards of Fyffes, Aer Lingus and Concern, and held senior positions in the Guinness Peat Aviation group.

This is a Thatcherite farce,

MRnotlob606

MRnotlob606 wrote: »

especially for water that passes through an outdated underground infrastructure in many places in this country

Don't they plan on upgrading the system using money generated from the water charges?

folan

water has always been a free resource?

what about the pipes to get it around? irrigation? so on and so on.

the truth of the matter is, water charges are another tax on irish people because the government cant balance its book and irish people neither want to lose services or pay for them. Water charge or another rise in VAT or USC or anything else, it doesnt matter. its a tax.

at least this tax will have something do with consumption of these "free" resources.

folan

Deleted User wrote: »

Don't they plan on upgrading the system using money generated from the water charges?

not really, no. some of the money raised might eventually go there, once the other holes in the public finances are plugged.

Also, maybe a pay rise for some politicians.

folan

folan wrote: »

not really, no. some of the money raised might eventually go there, once the other holes in the public finances are plugged.

Also, maybe a pay rise for some politicians.

€1.77bn from 2014-2016 to be invested in improving the networks? Seems fairly substantial

http://www.water.ie/news/proposed-capital-investme/

folan

Deleted User wrote: »

€1.77bn from 2014-2016 to be invested in improving the networks? Seems fairly substantial

http://www.water.ie/news/proposed-capital-investme/

I wouldnt say so, seeing as it currently costs ~ 1bn per annum to keep the current cracks from shutting the whole systems down. there are plenty of cracks already in the system, and were already paying for them.

Lemlin

Banjo String wrote: »

It might, but it knocks the shıte out of your domestic rate comparison. Don't even go there with vat rates, free health care, refuse collection and school books fees.




Everyone has been paying water charges for years. Via income tax, vat and commercial rates.

We don't have the UK to prop us up like they do NI.

Yes and rural people have been paying twice by paying our direct water Group Water Scheme charges plus these charges via other taxes.

folan

folan wrote: »

I wouldnt say so, seeing as it currently costs ~ 1bn per annum to keep the current cracks from shutting the whole systems down. there are plenty of cracks already in the system, and were already paying for them.

Have you got a source for that? I just get results for the upcoming charges when I went looking

folan

Deleted User wrote: »

Have you got a source for that? I just get results for the upcoming charges when I went looking

sure, i had a look around that same site:

It is costing €1.2 billion every year to run the public water system, with €1 billion of this funding coming from the Exchequer

http://www.water.ie/why-value-water/

Lemlin

MRnotlob606 wrote: »

Water charges should not even exist , suggesting someone to pay them sounds like such an alien Idea, especially for water that passes through an outdated underground infrastructure in many places in this country, water is an Inalienable right to the development of human beings, it has always been a free resource and its no wonder that they want to put a price on it in times of recession. its just a pseudo tax.

I quote, from the UN On 28 July 2010, through Resolution 64/292, the United Nations General Assembly explicitly recognized the human right to water and sanitation and acknowledged that clean drinking water and sanitation are essential to the realization of all human rights.

Not too mention its going to be a gravy train to the chairwoman Rose Hynes who is no stranger to state run bureaucratic organisations, I Quote from The Irish Times Hynes is the chairwoman of both Bord Gáis and Irish Water, to which she was appointed in July, 2013. She has been chairwoman of Bord Gáis since July, 2009, and also sits on its remuneration and investment and infrastructure committees. A lawyer by profession, she is also chairwoman of the Shannon Airport Authority and is a director of Total Produce and One Fifty One. She previously served on the boards of Fyffes, Aer Lingus and Concern, and held senior positions in the Guinness Peat Aviation group.

This is a Thatcherite farce,

You conveniently left out that the UN said water can be charged for:

•Affordable. Water, and water facilities and services, must be affordable for all. The United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) suggests that water costs should not exceed 3 per cent of household income.

Up to 3% of household income is alot more than the charges you will be paying.

folan

folan wrote: »

sure, i had a look around that same site:



http://www.water.ie/why-value-water/

Cheers