Luis Suarez - Mod Note Post #1, #585 and #602

cournioni

jasoncoylerd wrote: »

The outpouring of fake anger from man united fans is laughable, theyre shocked and disgusted by this happening at the world cup........its surely a coincidence that its a liverpool player and theyre so "angry"...............never mind the workers in brazil that have died constructing the stadium whilst getting paid peanuts, lets get outraged and hop up on our high horses over a wee nibble lol

I'm sure if you check with non-United fans they'll be just as disgusted that a player with a history for biting other players has bitten another again. Just check any media source or forum.

The guy is one of the best footballers in the world, I thought (like many others) after the Ivanovic incident that he would never do the same again. I find it sad that he has done it again, not only for Uruguay, but for the World Cup losing one of its best players because of another moment of madness.

Like it or not, biting is very dangerous and can lead to serious medical issues should a player be infected as a result. It is for this reason alone that I think that Suarez should be banned from all competitions until he can finally sort out whatever mental/disciplinary issues he has as a ban alone will not solve it.

K-9

recyclops wrote: »

if suarez was in any other job he would be fired by his employer. why do footballers getting away with this crap

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Because he's worth 80 million and 10 million a year in wages on top. That's the way its going.

Birroc

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Because its not 'any other job', its sport, its passionate, its heart on the sleeve, it makes people do things they wouldnt normally do, things happen that dont happen on the street, thats the nature of it. If you cant understand that then its not the kind of thing you should watch.

Jesus Ben, did someone bite you today? Get a grip.

Maximus Alexander

recyclops wrote: »

if suarez was in any other job he would be fired by his employer. why do footballers getting away with this crap

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Because football is a contact sport, so you need to be able to grab people with your teeth if your hands aren't available. It's an essential part of kicking an inflated plastic ball around a field.

recyclops

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Because its not 'any other job', its sport, its passionate, its heart on the sleeve, it makes people do things they wouldnt normally do, things happen that dont happen on the street, thats the nature of it. If you cant understand that then its not the kind of thing you should watch.

sorry but i dont agree if that was the case sure why are they all not going around biting each other

cournioni

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Because its not 'any other job', its sport, its passionate, its heart on the sleeve, it makes people do things they wouldnt normally do, things happen that dont happen on the street, thats the nature of it. If you cant understand that then its not the kind of thing you should watch.

Thats a bit of a bull**** cop out in fairness.

ROCKMAN

ok Alot of people are saying or blaming Mental issues which is fair enough but there is part of me thinks that he just does not give a **** and could not care less about his actions or the consequences .


For me he is acting like a spoilt little brat that does not care about anything but himself. And if you need proof look at his sad excuse of an explanation for yesterday events,
As for a ban I think it should be a very lengthy ban from all football, but It will not be and guess what I 'll bet that we'll be here again in a few months /years discussing a 4th time. Because if the first two did not effect his attitude I highly doubt this latest incident or any punishment is going to change him.

ben.schlomo

Birroc wrote: »

Jesus Ben, did someone bite you today? Get a grip.

Seriously, people comparing what happens on a football field to an office job etc would want to have a look at why they follow sport.

Invertpyramid

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Seriously, people comparing what happens on a football field to an office job etc would want to have a look at why they follow sport.

We follow it to see football.

If I wanted to see people eating, I'd watch Masterchef or come dine with me.

recyclops

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Seriously, people comparing what happens on a football field to an office job etc would want to have a look at why they follow sport.

did i say office, lets stop making assumptions actually no lets make them according to you all sport is passionate and everyone should bite each other and it be acceptable

can you now see the idiocy in your statement

ben.schlomo

cournioni wrote: »

Thats a bit of a bull**** cop out in fairness.

If you want a cleansed sport go with 'Knexs' suggestion above, otherwise deal with what happens and get on with the sport.

Birroc

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Seriously, people comparing what happens on a football field to an office job etc would want to have a look at why they follow sport.

Nobody mentioned an office job. And your reply was rude. (For rude, read ignorant)

Vito Corleone

Why do people keep bringing up counselling? I was under the impression that he was seeing a professional about this for some time.

Anyway as a Pool fan I'm very disappointed. Hopefully he won't get a club ban although it looks like he probably will. Also had some bets which aren't going to come through now.

How could he be so stupid, that annoys me more than the bite.

Will I Amnt

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Do you know the player or have you ever heard of him? Anyone with a mild knowledge of him would know he was a violent thug of a player.

I do and have. The Hume incident is the only case I know of where serious violent conduct took place. Are there others? I don't mean your stereotypical English hard man centre-half stuff that is thankfully dying out of the game.

cournioni

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Seriously, people comparing what happens on a football field to an office job etc would want to have a look at why they follow sport.

If you punshed/bit/kicked a customer or a fellow employee during a heated argument or disagreement you would be fired. It shouldn't excuse footballers from doing it, the only reason that they get away with it because they are highly skilled individuals and highly paid at that.

Jelle1880

K-9 wrote: »

Because he's worth 80 million and 10 million a year in wages on top. That's the way its going.

Do you think Apple would go 'ah well, it happens' if Tim Cook would bite someone during a presentation ?

Agueroooo

Birroc wrote: »

Nobody mentioned an office job. And your reply was rude. (For rude, read ignorant)

might have spilled over from this..

SeanJ09 wrote: »

Imagine if someone else was doing this in any other job. "Gary in accountants keep biting people. Yeah, but he is a really good accountant."

murpho999

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Seriously, people comparing what happens on a football field to an office job etc would want to have a look at why they follow sport.

Exactly, we don't get around hugging each other in the office or doing a group dance when we get a good result.

Maximus Alexander

I was totally not expecting Louis Suarez's dad to be taking part in this thread.

ben.schlomo

recyclops wrote: »

did i say office, lets stop making assumptions actually no lets make them according to you all sport is passionate and everyone should bite each other and it be acceptable

can you now see the idiocy in your statement

No i cant, when did i mention biting, when did i say it should be commonplace and everyone should do it. Point those out me like a good lad?
Use some punctuation and dont add words to my posts. Go back through mine to see what ive said on the issue and then reply if you like.

Agueroooo

cournioni wrote: »

If you punshed/bit/kicked a customer or a fellow employee during a heated argument or disagreement you would be fired.

nobody denies that.

but these comparisons are ridiculous on so many levels.

P_1

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Because its not 'any other job', its sport, its passionate, its heart on the sleeve, it makes people do things they wouldnt normally do, things happen that dont happen on the street, thats the nature of it. If you cant understand that then its not the kind of thing you should watch.

You could make the same argument about Wall Street traders but you don't see them going around biting each other. As a species I'd like to think that we've evolved past the need to go around biting each other.

recyclops

ben.schlomo wrote: »

No i cant, when did i mention biting, when did i say it should be commonplace and everyone should do it. Point those out me like a good lad?
Use some punctuation and dont add words to my posts. Go back through mine to see what ive said on the issue and then reply if you like.

biting is in the same place i said office

Knex*

There was a lad about to get to the printer before me in work today. I needed to print off stuff for a meeting, and we notoriously don't have a great stock of paper.

Took the legs from under in, straight red.

Processional foul, but the boss said I took one for the team so I'm getting a raise next week.

Just another one in the long list of football related office scenarios.

bazza1

Having had a 10 match ban at Liverpool and doing it again, he clearly has no respect for the rules of the game and deserves a large ban from the game. FIFA have put a lot of PR into RESPECT and he flies in the face of this. He is a fantastic player and has let himself, his club and his country down badly. I feel sorry for his club fans, who stood by him after the rascism thing and the Ivanovic bite. They saw their team profit by his 30+ goals and their team having a great season and looking forward to next season! How long will he be missing now?

A great world cup and we are talking about this incident! Uruguay will have to play without their best striker, (possibly), and have their recent good work undermined by a gross act of stupidity! They deseve better.

Birroc

Agueroooo wrote: »

nobody denies that.

but these comparisons are ridiculous on so many levels.

Agreed!

What if she is a really really good nurse...

Has anyone got a box of Chill Pills?

Leftist

ben is having a nightmare here.

ben.schlomo

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

I was totally not expecting Louis Suarez's dad to be taking part in this thread.

You really arent very good at debating issues, childish responses add nothing to the debate. Go through my posts and see where i said he should be banned. Your attempts at trolling are poor.

K-9

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Do you think Apple would go 'ah well, it happens' if Tim Cook would bite someone during a presentation ?

Nope I wouldn't. Somebody else made a point about a night out as well, but it isn't the same either as somebody hilariously pointed in the match thread. The guy got 2 bans already, I doubt he'll get sacked or a lifetime ban for this!

ben.schlomo

recyclops wrote: »

biting is in the same place i said office

Let me swap office for employment then, what job did you mean? Teacher, builder, bus driver? Which would you be happy with?:rolleyes:

ben.schlomo

Leftist wrote: »

ben is having a nightmare here.

Ive seen two responses in the thread from you, both as insightful as this.

K-9

Knex. wrote: »

There was a lad about to get to the printer before me in work today. I needed to print off stuff for a meeting, and we notoriously don't have a great stock of paper.

Took the legs from under in, straight red.

Processional foul, but the boss said I took one for the team so I'm getting a raise next week.

Just another one in the long list of football related office scenarios.

I think they made a health and safety video about that once. Guy looked wild like Suarez!

Knex*

bazza1 wrote: »

Having had a 10 match ban at Liverpool and doing it again, he clearly has no respect for the rules of the game and deserves a large ban from the game. FIFA have put a lot of PR into RESPECT and he flies in the face of this. He is a fantastic player and has let himself, his club and his country down badly. I feel sorry for his club fans, who stood by him after the rascism thing and the Ivanovic bite. They saw their team profit by his 30+ goals and their team having a great season and looking forward to next season! How long will he be missing now?

A great world cup and we are talking about this incident! Uruguay will have to play without their best striker, (possibly), and have their recent good work undermined by a gross act of stupidity! They deseve better.

Come now, lets be fair, FIFA do this all on their own.

Also, don't feel sorry for me, or any other fan, Why the hell should you? I'm not embarrassed by him. I don't have any personal relationship with him, and I'm not associated with in him in any discernible way.

He's a footballer from Uruguay, and one of the best in the World. As a Liverpool fan, I feel fortunate that he plays for us, as he does it so bloody well.

If I'm gonna get caught up in the moral side of the game, its all downhill from here folks. The excuses we make and ignore for brilliance is obvious and hilarious.

Some just don't seem to be acknowledging it, on both sides of the fence here.

digzy

Completely wrong thing to do but is chelini escaping a little bit bar getting a bite!He's obviously a nasty piece of work who specialises in provoking an opponent. Remember zidane s last game with the head but.

Birroc

Ben, walk away...10 deep breaths...lie down and get someone to put cold water in your ears...shake it out...then return.

(For 10, read 50)

jmayo

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Because its not 'any other job', its sport, its passionate, its heart on the sleeve, it makes people do things they wouldnt normally do, things happen that dont happen on the street, thats the nature of it. If you cant understand that then its not the kind of thing you should watch.

Ah seriously that is bullsh**.

Excusing saurez for this would be like someone on the rugby forum excusing schalk burger for eye gouging Luke Fitzgerald or someone on the gaa forum excusing ciaran whelan for punching an opponent before the ball was even thrown in.

Normal rules of decency should not be disregarded just becasue someone is playing a contact sport.

Will I Amnt

digzy wrote: »

Completely wrong thing to do but is chelini escaping a little bit bar getting a bite!He's obviously a nasty piece of work who specialises in provoking an opponent. Remember zidane s last game with the head but.

That was Materazzi.

Leftist

digzy wrote: »

Completely wrong thing to do but is chelini escaping a little bit bar getting a bite!He's obviously a nasty piece of work who specialises in provoking an opponent. Remember zidane s last game with the head but.

good point. Chelini got away scott free for the zidane incident. Shame scooby fu*king doo wasn't there to unmask his matterazzi costume.

A Greedy Algorithm

Does anyone have any predictions as to what sort of punishment he will face?

Knex*

digzy wrote: »

Completely wrong thing to do but is chelini escaping a little bit bar getting a bite!He's obviously a nasty piece of work who specialises in provoking an opponent. Remember zidane s last game with the head but.

Fully agree. Also, being able to morph to and from Materazzi and Chiellini is completely unfair.

Birroc

digzy wrote: »

Completely wrong thing to do but is chelini escaping a little bit bar getting a bite!He's obviously a nasty piece of work who specialises in provoking an opponent. Remember zidane s last game with the head but.

That was Materazzi though.

recyclops

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Let me swap office for employment then, what job did you mean? Teacher, builder, bus driver? Which would you be happy with?:rolleyes:

Teacher bites other teacher three times - id say the school would let them go

builder bites his colleague three times - id say the foreman would have had enough and get rid

bus driver bites next driver 3 times- il let you answer this one

(insert job here) bites colleague 3 times - i am fairly sure you will get the same result

Kess73

A Greedy Algorithm wrote: »

Does anyone have any predictions as to what sort of punishment he will face?

Between 12 and 24 months of an International ban, plus a large fine.

And there is not one complaint Suarez could have if that was dished out to him.

K-9

A Greedy Algorithm wrote: »

Does anyone have any predictions as to what sort of punishment he will face?

Public lynching I'd say, followed by hanging in Old Trafford.

ben.schlomo

jmayo wrote: »

Ah seriously that is bullsh**.

Excusing saurez for this would be like someone on the rugby forum excusing schalk burger for eye gouging Luke Fitzgerald or someone on the gaa forum excusing ciaran whelan for punching an opponent before the ball was even thrown in.

Normal rules of decency should not be disregarded just becasue someone is playing a contact sport.

The point is that it happens and as such it is part of sport, whether right or wrong, and im not saying its right, my point is just thats its not the same as any other job.

Birroc

A Greedy Algorithm wrote: »

Does anyone have any predictions as to what sort of punishment he will face?

I think he will get 12 international games and I think the FA will slap on a smaller ban due to pressure. I also think he will move to Spain in January but on a smaller price tag (20m-40m)

Leftist

recyclops wrote: »

Teacher bites other teacher three times - id say the school would let them go

builder bites his colleague three times - id say the foreman would have had enough and get rid

bus driver bites next driver 3 times- il let you answer this one

(insert job here) bites colleague 3 times - i am fairly sure you will get the same result

yeah but in sport it's ok to assault someone.

look at tyson, cantona etc. Where was the outrage then? everywhere really but that's not the point.

ben.schlomo

recyclops wrote: »

Teacher bites other teacher three times - id say the school would let them go

builder bites his colleague three times - id say the foreman would have had enough and get rid

bus driver bites next driver 3 times- il let you answer this one

(insert job here) bites colleague 3 times - i am fairly sure you will get the same result

And Suarez will be rightly punished for this. Wheres the issue.

Knex*

recyclops wrote: »

Teacher bites other teacher three times - id say the school would let them go

builder bites his colleague three times - id say the foreman would have had enough and get rid

bus driver bites next driver 3 times- il let you answer this one

(insert job here) bites colleague 3 times - i am fairly sure you will get the same result

You can't bloody compare that. Its hilarious that you would even try.

Suarez gone done wrong. Uh Oh.

This whole, you wouldn't bite your work colleague crap his ridiculous.

No, no I bloody wouldn't. Nor would I nutmeg him and shout Olé when leaving at 5 o clock, or tell him he's the son of a whore just so he loses his composure and I can skip in front of him in the lunch queue.

Jaysus.

Reekwind

Godge wrote: »

So, you are excusing biting so long as you don't bite someone's ear off. Really?

No. Biting is an offence. It's just not a throw-the-book-at-him-and-lock-him-away-for-life offence. That's the hysteria that I've been criticising.

People here have seriously advocated banning the man for life, as if biting was the most serious offence you can commit on the pitch. It reality it merits no more than a half-dozen game suspension. Which is still a relatively hefty ban.

How do we know he wasn't trying to bite their ear off? So my defence in court for stabbing is that I wasn't trying to stab him to death, just trying to give him a little nick.

Your analogy has backfired. If you attempt to kill someone but fail then you get done for attempted murder. Regardless of intentions, that does not carry a life sentence and is not treated with the same severity as murder.