Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 *mod warning linked in OP 26/07*

Grayditch

Jesus. Sanchez signs for Arsenal and already there is little digs thrown between a few.

Shtop lads.

Alonso77

redbaron_99 wrote: »

What? Liverpool didn't collapse at the end of the season....?
Not having a pop at you, but they collapsed in fairly spectacular fashion.

how bout you look at the pool results from Jan to May and get back to us on this "Collapse". :rolleyes:

I mean this is basic stuff to understand - Arsenal collapsed, Liverpool came out of nowhere to get to the top and ran out of steam spectacularly in Palace game

Any spectacular signings on the horizon for us?

K-9

djPSB wrote: »

That's all well and good but Arsenal have only won one trophy in the past 9 years.

And they made a serious attempt at making a balls of that one too.

It's the CL that really maters, not as if Sanchez would care about the FA Cup. Even the cup only matters to Arsenal fans because it was a running joke by rival fans. Bit like Ozil really! That's a joke btw.

Fescue

redbaron_99 wrote: »

The Palace game was spectacular.

Look you have a narrative in your head because of who you support. In reality Liverpool lost one game in 18 in 2014.

Utopia Parkway

rarnes1 wrote: »

Any spectacular signings on the horizon for us?

Doesn't seem to be. Lots of young players with a lot of potential but would be nice to bring in one proven quality player.

RasTa

Liverpool didn't collapse but any football fan with an ounce of knowledge like noodler will understand why he choose Arsenal.

There is a reason Arsenal will be top seeds for the CL draw

Grayditch

Does London have a Nando's? I'd go there.

Fescue

RasTa wrote: »

Liverpool didn't collapse but any football fan with an ounce of knowledge like noodler will understand why he choose Arsenal.

There is a reason Arsenal will be top seeds for the CL draw

To he fair they are a better bet than Liverpool on the face of it.

whatawaster

Grayditch wrote: »

Does London have a Nando's? I'd go there.

They do, but it's not very good

x43r0

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

I'm Dortmund head scout.

Top top gif use

Fescue

Fescue wrote: »

Look you have a narrative in your head because of who you support. In reality Liverpool lost one game in 18 in 2014.

If we finish outside the top 6 this season I'd call that a spectacular collapse.

7th to 2nd sits well with me

Grayditch

whatawaster wrote: »

They do, but it's not very good

Niiiiiice.

0028673

RasTa wrote: »

Liverpool didn't collapse but any football fan with an ounce of knowledge like noodler will understand why he choose Arsenal.

There is a reason Arsenal will be top seeds for the CL draw

I can see why Arsenal is a more attractive option than Liverpool at the moment;

Consistent involvement in the Champions League Football
Attractive brand of Football
Attractive City

But I don't believe it's a given that every player will choose Arsenal over Liverpool..

BTW I think Sanchez is a cracking player and with Walcott and Sanchez in the team I think we will see the best of Ozil, which threading balls in behind defences and creating chances..

viper006

Id would be seriously concerned and actually baffled If we sign Bony or davies from Swansea. I could live with davies as cover but its would be a very underwhelming transfer for what has been a problem position for years now. Can only hope Enrique can come back and regain some of the better form his had before injury.
Bony on the other hand would actually be a farcical replacement for suarez, I really hope BR doesn’t think borini, lambert, bony are strikers that will cut in the CL and will shoot us into top 4 again this season. Bony not a bad striker but as a back up to losing out on sanchez, it would literally be ridiculous.

Having consoled ourselves for last few seasons that will finally get the like of costa, willian, salah once we get CL football we could instead end up siging 5 players from Southampton and Swansea and losing our best player. I cant help be worried about the gathering of pace with stories linking us to Bony.

Utopia Parkway

Sanchez by all accounts is not a particularly deep thinker. I doubt he went through both Arsenal and Liverpool's squads with a fine tooth comb and mulled over the strengths and weaknesses of the respective managers over a glass of sherry. He was offered two two teams in the Champions League (well one so far technically) and chose to live in capital over the grim north.

Liverpool have lost players to bloody Spurs over the same reason. Let alone Arsenal.

Francie Barrett

The truth is probably a lot simpler. Arsenal offered to make Sanchez their top earner. I'd say that we wanted to pay him a lot less.

noodler

Fescue wrote: »

They still have tiny little balls. Which means they collapse whenever they're tested.

Well, I think that is moving the goalposts.

We have managed to qualify for the CL once in the last 6 years - which was our major aim.

Arsenal have managed this every year with relative ease - perhaps they collapse but by the time they do they have already gone miles past our own targets.

whatawaster wrote: »

If you exclude all Suarez's PL goals last season we still scored more than everyone bar City and Chelsea (and Chelsea would only have one more).

Yeah but we needed them goals with the defence as porous as it was. Suarez was also the top assister in the league and removing that seriously harms the number of Sturridge goals and Gerrard penalties.

djPSB wrote: »

That's all well and good but Arsenal have only won one trophy in the past 9 years.

And they made a serious attempt at making a balls of that one too.

The almost guarantee of CL football every year > winning the Carling Cup.

For me anyway but I'd wager for Alexis Sanchez as well.

rossie1977

the manager plays a key ingredient in attracting players. i said it before (and got heat for it) but if rodgers was in charge of liverpool back in the day no chance would torres, masch, alonso etc have signed for the club at the time.

last few years the excuses were that liverpool lost out on numerous players due to no champions league involvement and now its something else...

Kerrigooney

rarnes1 wrote: »

If we finish outside the top 6 this season I'd call that a spectacular collapse.

7th to 2nd sits well with me

From champions to 7th is a spectacular collapse.

Jesus Wept

We should relocate the club to London.

whatawaster

rossie1977 wrote: »

the manager plays a key ingredient in attracting players. i said it before (and got heat for it) but if rodgers was in charge of liverpool back in the day no chance would torres, masch, alonso etc have signed for the club at the time.

last few years the excuses were that liverpool lost out on numerous players due to no champions league involvement and now its something else...

The same Javier Mascherano who signed for Alan Curbishley?

Rodgers has just won manager of the year, finished second in the league and his reputation is sky high. Definitely not at the level of Wenger's, but I don't think any players will be put off coming to Liverpool because of him.

Utopia Parkway

whatawaster wrote: »

The same Javier Mascherano who signed for Alan Curbishley?

Offer a player enough money and they would sign for Dunphy's Ragball Rovers.

djPSB

noodler wrote: »

Well, I think that is moving the goalposts.

We have managed to qualify for the CL once in the last 6 years - which was our major aim.

Arsenal have managed this every year with relative ease - perhaps they collapse but by the time they do they have already gone miles past our own targets.



Yeah but we needed them goals with the defence as porous as it was. Suarez was also the top assister in the league and removing that seriously harms the number of Sturridge goals and Gerrard penalties.



The almost guarantee of CL football every year > winning the Carling Cup.

For me anyway but I'd wager for Alexis Sanchez as well.

The guarantee of CL every year is worth diddly squat if it doesn't result in consistent silverware.

For example, as a Liverpool fan, I wouldn't be pleased if Liverpool were to qualify for the CL for the next 9 years yet only manage to win an FA Cup in that period.

cson

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Sanchez by all accounts is not a particularly deep thinker. I doubt he went through both Arsenal and Liverpool's squads with a fine tooth comb and mulled over the strengths and weaknesses of the respective managers over a glass of sherry. He was offered two two teams in the Champions League (well one so far technically) and chose to live in capital over the grim north.

Liverpool have lost players to bloody Spurs over the same reason. Let alone Arsenal.

Francie Barrett wrote: »

The truth is probably a lot simpler. Arsenal offered to make Sanchez their top earner. I'd say that we wanted to pay him a lot less.

Haha lads you're like a fella who's been turned down by a bird in Coppers and you're reverting to the "I never liked her anyway"/"She's only with him for his money" schtick.

Complex or what. :pac:

djPSB

cson wrote: »

Haha lads you're like a fella who's been turned down by a bird in Coppers and you're reverting to the "I never liked her anyway"/"She's only with him for his money" schtick.

Complex or what. :pac:

Complexities like that would never happen in Coppers.

cson

djPSB wrote: »

The guarantee of CL every year is worth diddly squat if it doesn't result in consistent silverware.

For example, as a Liverpool fan, I wouldn't be pleased if Liverpool were to qualify for the CL for the next 9 years yet only manage to win an FA Cup in that period.

But if we add a Carling Cup to that, then its ok right?

Cos that's what you've won in 9 years.

Fescue

cson wrote: »

But if we add a Carling Cup to that, then its ok right?

Cos that's what you've won in 9 years.

Don't forget the Champions League!

Mickeroo

Fescue wrote: »

Don't forget the Champions League!

If you're counting the CL that means Arsenal have won 2 FA Cups in the 9 year period :P

cson

Mickeroo wrote: »

If you're counting the CL that means Arsenal have won 2 FA Cups in the 9 year period :P

Fescue

Mickeroo wrote: »

If you're counting the CL that means Arsenal have won 2 FA Cups in the 9 year period :P

Would you trade 2 FA Cups for one Champions League?

greendom

djPSB wrote: »

The guarantee of CL every year is worth diddly squat if it doesn't result in consistent silverware.

For example, as a Liverpool fan, I wouldn't be pleased if Liverpool were to qualify for the CL for the next 9 years yet only manage to win an FA Cup in that period.

Even if you had to relocate and pay for a new stadium in that period ?

delw

Fescue wrote: »

Don't forget the Champions League!

and an FA cup

Mickeroo

Fescue wrote: »

Would you trade 2 FA Cups for one Champions League?

Of course, but sure let's add another year onto the period while we're at it and include a league title (unbeaten), it would make this argument no less silly imo.

Both of our clubs have been below where we want them to be for almost decade, though ye came damn close to rectifying that last season in fairness.

taidghbaby

Jesus ****ing christ

IK09

No no no no no no no no no no

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/487805/TRANSFER-NEWS-Man-Utd-s-35m-Martinez-bid-Liverpool-s-Cuadrado-boost-Spurs-eye-Draxler

Wouldnt be able to handle him signing for Utd

Utopia Parkway

IK09 wrote: »

No no no no no no no no no no

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/487805/TRANSFER-NEWS-Man-Utd-s-35m-Martinez-bid-Liverpool-s-Cuadrado-boost-Spurs-eye-Draxler

Wouldnt be able to handle him signing for Utd

Cannot see Bayern letting Martinez go with Kroos apparently off to Madrid.

barone

Gonna b a long few weeks in this thread

Fescue

Mickeroo wrote: »

Of course, but sure let's add another year onto the period while we're at it and include a league title (unbeaten), it would make this argument no less silly imo.

Both of our clubs have been below where we want them to be for almost decade, though ye came damn close to rectifying that last season in fairness.

Of course. I'd give anything to see Liverpool win the League. I dare say you would give anything to see Arsenal win the Champions League.

IK09

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Cannot see Bayern letting Martinez go with Kroos apparently off to Madrid.

Are Bayern after him? Martinez is a Stiker, Kroos is a centre mid. I dont understand.

Utopia Parkway

IK09 wrote: »

Are Bayern after him? Martinez is a Stiker, Kroos is a centre mid. I dont understand.

Oops wrong Martinez. Thought it was Javi.

5live

cson wrote: »

Haha lads you're like a fella who's been turned down by a bird in Coppers and you're reverting to the "I never liked her anyway"/"She's only with him for his money" schtick.

Complex or what. :pac:

+£1

Nuri Sahin

rossie1977 wrote: »

the manager plays a key ingredient in attracting players. i said it before (and got heat for it) but if rodgers was in charge of liverpool back in the day no chance would torres, masch, alonso etc have signed for the club at the time.

last few years the excuses were that liverpool lost out on numerous players due to no champions league involvement and now its something else...

One day you'll post something remotely positive. I bolieve in you.

MD1990

We are not signing huge names but its is a very important to have PL experience. Bony for me would be a good buy & if he stays fit gurantees 10-20 goals in the PL. Bony & Lambert are not huge names but they scored 30 PL goals last season.

Pyjamarama

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

One day you'll post something remotely positive. I bolieve in you.

I don't usually complain about posts but bo Dallas is a jobber! Get him back to nxt with all the little flippy guys who'll never draw a dime!!

Soft Falling Rain

rossie1977 wrote: »

the manager plays a key ingredient in attracting players. i said it before (and got heat for it) but if rodgers was in charge of liverpool back in the day no chance would torres, masch, alonso etc have signed for the club at the time.

last few years the excuses were that liverpool lost out on numerous players due to no champions league involvement and now its something else...

Funny, back in the day the manager at the time was derided as a fat spanish waiter.

Now he's the world class manager who was the reason we attracted top names like Torres.

Moving the goalposts indeed.

Hangballlouie

Pyjamarama wrote: »

I don't usually complain about posts but bo Dallas is a jobber! Get him back to nxt with all the little flippy guys who'll never draw a dime!!

he's unbeaten.

Liam McPoyle

Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

Funny, back in the day the manager at the time was derided as a fat spanish waiter.

Now he's the world class manager who was the reason we attracted top names like Torres.

Moving the goalposts indeed.

When did Benitez become world class?

More or less sacked by Liverpool.

Sacked by Inter.

Only got an interim contract at Chelsea.

To date performing averagely in a crappy league.

Not world class by any stretch IMO.

Slattsy

I'd hate to think where Liverpool would be now with Rafa still in charge.
It scares me *shudders

Utopia Parkway

Business Cat wrote: »

When did Benitez become world class?

More or less sacked by Liverpool.

Sacked by Inter.

Only got an interim contract at Chelsea.

To date performing averagely in a crappy league.

Not world class by any stretch IMO.

Doesn't sound dissimilar to Louis van Gaal to be honest.