Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 *mod warning linked in OP 26/07*

Washington Irving

Ah lads, it's the Dirk thing all over again.

OwaynOTT

This thread today



but I still love it, I LOVE IT!

Sappy404

http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2014/serge-auriers-agent-to-meet-with-big-premier-league-club-tomorrow/

Spurious, but:

According to our colleagues at Eurosport, Serge Aurier’s agent has a meeting with a big Premier League side tomorrow that isn’t Arsenal.

Get French Football News believes it to be Liverpool, who had shown their interest in the player before the World Cup.

Chelsea are also long term admirers of the youngster. Monaco and PSG have both meanwhile tabled propositions for the player.

Pilsbury Doughboy

This thread is a train wreck today, I blame the turd personally, all his bitter ramblings about Arsenal have come back to haunt the rest of us, cheers for that.

Liam McPoyle

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Doesn't sound dissimilar to Louis van Gaal to be honest.

Lol.

googled eyes

Pilsbury Doughboy wrote: »

This thread is a train wreck today, I blame the turd personally, all his bitter ramblings about Arsenal have come back to haunt the rest of us, cheers for that.

Fescue

Pilsbury Doughboy wrote: »

This thread is a train wreck today, I blame the turd personally, all his bitter ramblings about Arsenal have come back to haunt the rest of us, cheers for that.

I want to apologise for suggesting earlier Arsenal had tiny balls. I have no doubt the balls at Arsenal are of standard circumference and mass.

Apologies Arsenal brethren.

Soft Falling Rain

Business Cat wrote: »

When did Benitez become world class?

More or less sacked by Liverpool.

Sacked by Inter.

Only got an interim contract at Chelsea.

To date performing averagely in a crappy league.

Not world class by any stretch IMO.

I'm not saying he is world class, I was just making a point. Someone claimed Rodgers can't attract the players that Benitez did, suggesting Benitez was in an elite group that Rodgers isn't in.

When that same person probably would have been looking for every which way and how back at the day to have a dig at Benitez. It just seems a bit hypocritical to me.

Nuri Sahin

Nothing new to anyone with a brain, but I'd like to think with Evans, Barrett and Pearce saying it's £75M, people who were doubting it will stop questioning the fee at this stage, but really.. who am I kidding.

Pearce: #Suarez is gone. Barcelona will pay his release clause which is around £75million. Confirmation soon #LFC

Oh and..

Pearce: Definite possibility of #Aspas going to Seville as a lightweight for #Moreno deal. #LFC

Pyjamarama

I like this business cat guy. He's really got a lot of original and witty content to add to the thread. Is he new? (Was gonna say is he meeew? But that's too far).

Would love Aurier. He's a full back with good potential but already playing at a high level.

Utopia Parkway

Business Cat wrote: »

Lol.

It's true.

Their list of honours is quite similiar. Both have been sacked a couple of times. Both spiky with the media. Both rotund men.

googled eyes

Sevilla want Aspas

Liverpool want Moreno

Pilsbury Doughboy

Fescue wrote: »

I want to apologise for suggesting earlier Arsenal had tiny balls. I have no doubt the balls at Arsenal are of standard circumference and mass.

Apologies Arsenal brethren.

No need to apologise! An odd dig is cool, others will try and get an Arsenal dig in no matter what post they read they somehow want to connect it to Arsenal, consumed by their hatred.

Washington Irving

If Aspas goes, I'm supporting Arsenal.

foxtrot101

MD1990 wrote: »

We are not signing huge names but its is a very important to have PL experience. Bony for me would be a good buy & if he stays fit gurantees 10-20 goals in the PL. Bony & Lambert are not huge names but they scored 30 PL goals last season.

I don't know, is pl league experience that important? If a player is good enough he'll adapt, if he isn't it doesn't really matter where he comes from.

Nuri Sahin

Business Cat wrote: »

When did Benitez become world class?

More or less sacked by Liverpool.

Sacked by Inter.

Only got an interim contract at Chelsea.

To date performing averagely in a crappy league.

Not world class by any stretch IMO.

United fan bashing Rafa shocker.

Just :pac: at using his sacking at Liverpool against him given all the turmoil at boardroom level, Inter's general insanity with Moratti in charge and being against him in wanting to bring the general age of the squad down, and his time in Chelsea which he secured top 4 and won the Europa League.

As for Napoli, they finished third with a high turnover of players coming through. You do realise the team that won Seria A set a new points record too?

Slattsy

Slattsy wrote: »

I'd hate to think where Liverpool would be now with Rafa still in charge.
It scares me *shudders

Yeah, what a terrible manager he was.

Got sick of champions league business end matches myself

Utopia Parkway

James Pearce says Rodgers is after another striker. He wants 4. But he is unaware of any link to Bony.

Also doesn't think there will be a "marquee" big signing but rather 3 or 4 players in the 20M range.

0028673

When are we going to talk about net spend :pac:

googled eyes

0028673 wrote: »

When are we going to talk about net spend :pac:

Just what the thread needs right now

Agent Coulson

0028673 wrote: »

When are we going to talk about net spend :pac:

Will it be € or £ net spend though.

RainMaker

0028673 wrote: »

When are we going to talk about net spend :pac:

Don't forget the wage bill!

I miss G & H

googled eyes

Suarez ban has been upheld / unchanged

brevity

Sorry Nuri

Billy Liddell ‏@Liddellpool Protected Tweets 1m

James Pearce: With Markovic coming in and Lallana already done, I'd be surprised if Rodgers went for another wide player. #Griezmann

MonkeyTennis

googled eyes wrote: »

Suarez ban has been upheld / unchanged

Wow

NukaCola

googled eyes wrote: »

Suarez ban has been upheld / unchanged

Not that i doubt you, but where did you get that info?

MonkeyTennis

James Masters ‏@Masters_JamesD 1m
BREAKING: FIFA says Suarez and Uruguay FA can appeal to CAS.

googled eyes

NukaCola wrote: »

Not that i doubt you, but where did you get that info?

I have little birds everywhere



And

Nuri Sahin

brevity wrote: »

Sorry Nuri

While it was unlikely we'd sign him after Markovic, it's only Pearce opinion. Griezmann can play centrally, either wing or behind the striker too and would be a marquee signing, if I were the club I'd still sign him. Lallana can play deeper in midfield if needed as well.

Clings to straws.

Strongbow10

Vorm
Lovren
Moreno
Firmino
Markovic
Origi
1 excellent striker

and we are set.

Skylinehead

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

United fan bashing Rafa shocker.

Just :pac: at using his sacking at Liverpool against him given all the turmoil at boardroom level, Inter's general insanity with Moratti in charge and being against him in wanting to bring the general age of the squad down, and his time in Chelsea which he secured top 4 and won the Europa League.

As for Napoli, they finished third with a high turnover of players coming through. You do realise the team that won Seria A set a new points record too?

I've nothing against Benitez at Liverpool, quite the character in fact, but as an Inter fan, he was absolutely shocking in his short time there.

Utopia Parkway

Strongbow10 wrote: »

Vorm
Lovren
Moreno
Firmino
Markovic
Origi
1 excellent striker

and we are set.

Vorm - Think we will get in a keeper. Not sure if it will be Vorm.
Lovren - Think this will happen.
Moreno - Think this might happen eventually as well.
Firmino - Don't think so.
Markovic - Looks close.
Origi- So does this.
1 excellent striker - Not sure about excellent but think we will get another striker in.

djPSB

Benitez was top class at Liverpool.

Have to say his choice of jobs after were risky though.

Took over an Inter team that had just won the CL. Hard to improve on that.

And as interim manager at Chelsea. Regardless of what he achieved, the fans didn't want him.

Liam McPoyle

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

United fan bashing Rafa shocker.

Just :pac: at using his sacking at Liverpool against him given all the turmoil at boardroom level, Inter's general insanity with Moratti in charge and being against him in wanting to bring the general age of the squad down, and his time in Chelsea which he secured top 4 and won the Europa League.

As for Napoli, they finished third with a high turnover of players coming through. You do realise the team that won Seria A set a new points record too?

Oh, I'm sorry.

I seem to have missed the memo where it said that fans of United cannot give their opinion on anything to do with Liverpool without it being a bashing exercise.

I will sit in the corner and think about what I've done.

Thanks for showing me what a terrible person I am.

noodler

djPSB wrote: »

The guarantee of CL every year is worth diddly squat if it doesn't result in consistent silverware.

For example, as a Liverpool fan, I wouldn't be pleased if Liverpool were to qualify for the CL for the next 9 years yet only manage to win an FA Cup in that period.

How often does it happen that non-CL teams are challenging for the league or CL?

I completely disagree with what you say here in terms of a player making his decision to move.

10 Consecutive years of CL football or whatever is going to trump 1 season in six and a Carling Cup.

The trophy won't fund transfers or attract players.

Utopia Parkway

Anyways hopefully the club has some kind of surprise in store before the end of August because I find it hard to shake the feeling that list of players linked with us has been a bit underwhelming. I would expect us to be able to sign nearly all of them even without CL football.

This Summer, Liverpool have both A. Champions League football and B. A huge pile of cash to spend. If you are going to bring in genuine quality you had better do it this Summer because we may not have either next Summer.

trainslaughing

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Anyways hopefully the club has some kind of surprise in store before the end of August because I find it hard to shake the feeling that list of players linked with us has been a bit underwhelming. I would expect us to be able to sign nearly all of them even without CL football.

This Summer, Liverpool have both A. Champions League football and B. A huge pile of cash to spend. If you are going to bring in genuine quality you had better do it this Summer because we may not have either next Summer.

There it all is right there.

whatawaster

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Anyways hopefully the club has some kind of surprise in store before the end of August because I find it hard to shake the feeling that list of players linked with us has been a bit underwhelming. I would expect us to be able to sign nearly all of them even without CL football.

This Summer, Liverpool have both A. Champions League football and B. A huge pile of cash to spend. If you are going to bring in genuine quality you had better do it this Summer because we may not have either next Summer.

It doesn't really matter if we are underwhelmed or not by transfers.

The point isn't to please or appease fans. We know **** all in the scheme of things. I'm certain the club think Markovic is the best winger/attacking midfielder available to us at this point in time, otherwise they wouldn't sign him

It also doesn't really matter if we could/couldn't have signed them without CL football. It's not about how famous the players are or how expensive they are. It's about how well they fit in and perform for us this season and in the coming seasons.

Spurs signed two big names last summer - Soldado and Lamela both for around 30m. Both were hyped and there was general devastation last summer that we got neither. Soldado completely flopped. Lamela didn't start great and then spent the rest of the season injured.

If Markovic, Lallana and whoever else we sign have the impact that Coutinho or Sturridge have then I'll be happy

Nuri Sahin

Skylinehead wrote: »

I've nothing against Benitez at Liverpool, quite the character in fact, but as an Inter fan, he was absolutely shocking in his short time there.

I called it at the time, but he was on a hiding to nothing after what had occurred the season before, as it was near certain that players would have slacked off unless perhaps Mourinho had remained in charge. Rafa wanted money to spend and to lower the average age of the squad by bringing in players who were hungry for success. Moratti didn't agree. There are one or similarities in that regard with Moyes and Man U, except Rafa is a vastly superior coach, obviously As an Inter fan, you should know how insane Moratti is. Despite that, he still won a couple of cups and it was still far too early for him to be sacked, IMHO.

Nuri Sahin

Business Cat wrote: »

Oh, I'm sorry.

I seem to have missed the memo where it said that fans of United cannot give their opinion on anything to do with Liverpool without it being a bashing exercise.

I will sit in the corner and think about what I've done.

Thanks for showing me what a terrible person I am.

One day I'll hear/read a United apply context to Rafa's situation in previous or current club, but till then..

Even just using last season to criticise him is misguided, let alone what happened at Liverpool or Inter.

Skylinehead

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

I called it at the time, but he was on a hiding to nothing after what had occurred the season before, as it was near certain that players would have slacked off unless perhaps Mourinho had remained in charge.

Absolutely, whoever took the job was onto a loser really, so I don't actually blame him.

Rafa wanted money to spend and to lower the average age of the squad by bringing in players who were hungry for success. Moratti didn't agree. There are one or similarities in that regard with Moyes and Man U, except Rafa is a vastly superior coach, obviously As an Inter fan, you should know how insane Moratti is.

Oh yeah Moratti is a nut, can't argue with that. Pretty much wrecked the club at this point until Thohir took over, and it's still not rosy.

Despite that, he still won a couple of cups and it was still far too early for him to be sacked, IMHO.

I don't think it was ever going to work by the time he got sacked. Poor performances in both Europe and Serie A, plus the public outburst at Moratti.

Strongbow10

Serge Aurier has already signed by the looks of things

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serge_Aurier

Utopia Parkway

whatawaster wrote: »

It doesn't really matter if we are underwhelmed or not by transfers.

It also doesn't really matter if we could/couldn't have signed them without CL football. It's not about how famous the players are or how expensive they are. It's about how well they fit in and perform for us this season and in the coming seasons.

Spurs signed two big names last summer - Soldado and Lamela both for around 30m. Both were hyped and there was general devastation last summer that we got neither. Soldado completely flopped. Lamela didn't start great and then spent the rest of the season injured.

If Markovic, Lallana and whoever else we sign have the impact that Coutinho or Sturridge have then I'll be happy

Don't get me wrong. I think they are good players. Was a big fan of Lallana last season and I expect him to do very well. Markovic very highly rated but is young and we just haven't seen enough of him yet.

Just think this is an opportunity for the club to push the boat out a little that might not present itself next year. Maybe it will though.

Anyone

Business Cat wrote: »

Oh, I'm sorry.

I seem to have missed the memo where it said that fans of United cannot give their opinion on anything to do with Liverpool without it being a bashing exercise.

I will sit in the corner and think about what I've done.

Thanks for showing me what a terrible person I am.

Its ok to make mistakes as long as you learn from them.

Nuri Sahin

De Vrij is apparently Lazio bound. Another player I'd have been very happy with us signing to partner Sissoko.

I am pie

The ignorance of calling the Italian league a cr4ppy league is breathtaking. I can imagine an Italian football fan coming on to boards.ie and listening to some galloot gassing on about how their league is cr4p.

3rd place is a poor finish now is it?

Hotfail.com

Strongbow10 wrote: »

Serge Aurier has already signed by the looks of things

Christ he looks scarier than Sakho :pac:

whatawaster

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Don't get me wrong. I think they are good players. Was a big fan of Lallana last season and I expect him to do very well. Markovic very highly rated but is young and we just haven't seen enough of him yet.

Just think this is an opportunity for the club to push the boat out a little that might not present itself next year. Maybe it will though.

Thing is we tried to sign Alexis Sanchez, who is definitely at the upper end of the scale in terms of who we could attract (and we couldn't attract him!).

I'm not sure what big names are out there that want to come here that we are missing out on.

I know plenty want Griezmann, and yes, he does look like a very good player, likewise Shaqiri. But I wouldn't call either "big" names and I don't think either are a) a patch on what we are losing (Suarez) or b) much better than what we have in Sturridge, Sterling and Coutinho. (not saying neither wouldn't be automatic starters here, of course they probably would, but I don't see them as no-brainer type signings that we have to make.

rob316

FIFA have rejected Suarez appeal. Off to the CAS now I presume.