Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 *mod warning linked in OP 26/07*

8-10

Oranage2 wrote: »

Rodgers isn't so hot in the transfer window either close to 30 million for Allen and Borini

Closer to 25 actually. Borini was unlucky with 2 bad injuries in the first year. He'd still recoup 8m or so if he sold him.

If you want to knock his transfers I think last year was worse than the first year. Don't rate Aspas at all and Moses didn't work out on loan either.

Allen and Borini are good enough to be in the squad

Ger Byrne 1

any new signings

djPSB

Ger Byrne 1 wrote: »

any new signings

Keeping Aspas has been Rodgers best bit of business this summer.

Lostman1990

Ger Byrne 1 wrote: »

any new signings

Yeah Arsenal signed Sanchez :P

djPSB

8-10 wrote: »

Closer to 25 actually. Borini was unlucky with 2 bad injuries in the first year. He'd still recoup 8m or so if he sold him.

If you want to knock his transfers I think last year was worse than the first year. Don't rate Aspas at all and Moses didn't work out on loan either.

Allen and Borini are good enough to be in the squad

Aspas and Moses only cost about £8-9m combined.

It's fairly low key compared to the money wasted by our rivals.

Oranage2

8-10 wrote: »

Closer to 25 actually. Borini was unlucky with 2 bad injuries in the first year. He'd still recoup 8m or so if he sold him.

If you want to knock his transfers I think last year was worse than the first year. Don't rate Aspas at all and Moses didn't work out on loan either.

Allen and Borini are good enough to be in the squad

I thought they were committee signings?

I'll say it again, Rodgers had Liverpool playing some of the best football in my lifetime but the signings have all been poor besides Danny S. coutinho can be hit or miss but no doubt a very good signing for the price paid. But the rest are all bad or reserve judgement signings.

Liverpool flattered to deceive last season by playing something like 41 games, they'll find it tougher this season, and lose Suarez and It's a hopeless case.

Turtyturd

Lostman1990 wrote: »

Yeah Arsenal signed Sanchez :P

Waste of money IMO...could have wrapped up 4th without him.

0028673

Oranage2 wrote: »

I thought they were committee signings?

I'll say it again, Rodgers had Liverpool playing some of the best football in my lifetime but the signings have all been poor besides Danny S. coutinho can be hit or miss but no doubt a very good signing for the price paid. But the rest are all bad or reserve judgement signings.

Liverpool flattered to deceive last season by playing something like 41 games, they'll find it tougher this season, and lose Suarez and It's a hopeless case.

Jesus your right we should pull out of the champions league and get a petition going to keep Suarez

K-9

Which one of Sturridge and Coutinho was possibly a disaster? LOL

Francie Barrett

brianregan09 wrote: »

Hey all Arsenal supporter here , I just wanted to know why do Liverpool seem to have a chip on there shoulder when it comes to Arsenal and our players ?

We don't, that chip on that shoulder is reserved for United.

kop77

hangballlouie wrote: »

:pac::pac:....... thats the Gif of the month award wrapped up!!

Funniest gif I've ever seen and used to perfection.

Reply of the decade

whatawaster

8-10 wrote: »

Allen and Borini are good enough to be in the squad

Exactly.

Is there anyone who doesn't now think that Allen was a good signing?

Yes, his fee was high, but his wages are very low, and he still has years ahead of him.

He is a player that you wouldn't mind having in our first 11 in 2 or 3 positions and he is also a player who probably won't kick up a stink at being a squad player.

If we are going to have squad players, Allen is exactly the kind of squad player we need.

IK09

MD1990 wrote: »

Here is a list of Strikers/Forwards who we could a target

El Shaawawy - would be risky because of Injury problems
Reus - No chance of happening
Griezmann
Cavani
Morata
Jese Rodriguez
Vela
Remy
Bony
Huntelaar
Iturbe
Callejon
Lukaku
Balotelli
Bacca
Martinez
Aubameyang
Higuain - Im not a fan of him

I hear Cavani is good. Ive yet to see it though.

My dream signing for this window, and the last window......and the window before that has been Jackson Martinez. I feel like tonly person in the world that likes the guy. Couldnt understand how he wasnt starting at the WC. I feel like im taking crazy pills.

Griezmann would suit our style of play down to the ground. It would be a crime to not be in for him. Everything about the guy works for us. Hes a young, technical, talented footballer with a good work ethic.
I am genuinely surprised that we are not in there and over paying for him.

hefferboi

MonkeyTennis

I dont care about Sanchez, he didnt want to come, getting CL place has lifted our signing power but were not in that zone yet.

We have CL and we have money and we have time. We've bought quickly and effectively so far. Keep the heads up Pandas

gafferino

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

I dont care about Sanchez, he didnt want to come, getting CL place has lifted our signing power but were not in that zone yet.

We have CL and we have money and we have time. We've bought quickly and effectively so far. Keep the heads up Pandas

What zone?

rob316

whatawaster wrote: »

Exactly.

Is there anyone who doesn't now think that Allen was a good signing?

Yes, his fee was high, but his wages are very low, and he still has years ahead of him.

He is a player that you wouldn't mind having in our first 11 in 2 or 3 positions and he is also a player who probably won't kick up a stink at being a squad player.

If we are going to have squad players, Allen is exactly the kind of squad player we need.

Aye Allen came in at the run in and is a fine player. Nothing spectacular but just a solid squad player. He cost £15m and will probably be with us for another few years yet and is on relatively low wages I'd imagine, hardly one to beat Rodgers for. Borini is good enough for our squad but if we want to sell him getting our money back shouldn't be much of a problem either.

Tough to judge Rodgers, this transfer committee has caused a lot of uncertainty on who signs who. We know they type of player Rodgers likes so its probably easy to see who are his signings, Sakho I cant imagine is his, he is too clumsy with the ball at his feet.

Look at the signings he really hasn't spent much, if you want to judge him, judge him after this window when he will have spent circa £100m

BMJD

if Sancho prefers Albert Square to Brookside Close then it's his loss. Enjoy the inevitable slump, fooooool.

x43r0

gafferino wrote: »

What zone?

Hangballlouie

rarnes1 wrote: »

Funniest gif I've ever seen and used to perfection.

Reply of the decade

I've been waiting

Tusky

Allen has contributed almost nothing so far. He may go on to be a good signing but as it stands, that £15m could have been spent much better.

Oranage2

hangballlouie wrote: »

I've been waiting

Some of you lot are easily amused

Turtyturd

When life gives you Oranges make gif posts.

MonkeyTennis

gafferino wrote: »

What zone?

The group of teams that more often than not make the CL year in year out

Soft Falling Rain

El Shaarawy would be an exciting signing, have we been actually linked? Didn't know he had injury problems though.

OwaynOTT

Oranage2 wrote: »

Some of you lot are easily amused

Exactly,

Seaba

Possibly a bit late in the day, but what I'd love J Henry to come out and say, along the lines of what he said last year when Suarez wanted to leave, "since contracts in England do not count for much, we are taking the position that since we cannot adequately replace Luis Suarez with enough proven, quality signings, therefore weakening our team, whilst simultaneously teams like Arsenal and Chelsea have significantly improved their teams, Luis Suarez is not for sale".

Would take some cojones to do that but I think it's the type of decision that needs to be made!

googled eyes

Oranage2 wrote: »

Some of you lot are easily amused

It's still early. The rest will be amused soon

rob316

Seaba wrote: »

Possibly a bit late in the day, but what I'd love J Henry to come out and say, along the lines of what he said last year when Suarez wanted to leave, "since contracts in England do not count for much, we are taking the position that since we cannot adequately replace Luis Suarez with enough proven, quality signings, therefore weakening our team, whilst simultaneously teams like Arsenal and Chelsea have significantly improved their teams, Luis Suarez is not for sale".

Would take some cojones to do that but I think it's the type of decision that needs to be made!

:rolleyes: Would some people just accept he is gone, it is beyond speculation its only a matter of time now before it becomes reality with Sanchez sold.

Seaba

Seaba wrote: »

Possibly a bit late in the day, but what I'd love J Henry to come out and say, along the lines of what he said last year when Suarez wanted to leave, "since contracts in England do not count for much, we are taking the position that since we cannot adequately replace Luis Suarez with enough proven, quality signings, therefore weakening our team, whilst simultaneously teams like Arsenal and Chelsea have significantly improved their teams, Luis Suarez is not for sale".

Would take some cojones to do that but I think it's the type of decision that needs to be made!

If there's a clause though, can you ignore it if a club meets it?

rob316

rob316 wrote: »

:rolleyes: Would some people just accept he is gone, it is beyond speculation its only a matter of time now before it becomes reality with Sanchez sold.

Not sure why the smart reply. He was only making a point.

Mickeroo

rarnes1 wrote: »

If there's a clause though, can you ignore it if a club meets it?

Didn't Henry come out and say that that was exactly what he did last summer?

Mickeroo

Mickeroo wrote: »

Didn't Henry come out and say that that was exactly what he did last summer?

Yeah but was there a clause last summer?

OwaynOTT

rarnes1 wrote: »

If there's a clause though, can you ignore it if a club meets it?

Last gif I promise

machiavellianme

gafferino wrote: »

What zone?

END Zone!!!

googled eyes

Don't stop the gifs.

Seaba

rob316 wrote: »

:rolleyes: Would some people just accept he is gone, it is beyond speculation its only a matter of time now before it becomes reality with Sanchez sold.

I know it looks like it, and I am not deluding myself, but I'd love to see him do it and stick it to the rest of them.

rarnes1 wrote: »

If there's a clause though, can you ignore it if a club meets it?

Yes, he believes so.
This is posted in loads of different websites from last year - just picked one:


John W Henry made the following eye-popping remarks:
Luis Suarez is the top scorer in the English Premier League, which is arguably the top soccer league in the world. He had a buyout clause of £40m. Arsenal, one of our prime rivals – this year we’re tied for 2nd … we’re actually 2nd because of goal difference.
They offered £40m+£1. What we’ve found … is that contracts don’t seem to mean a lot in England – actually, in world football. It doesn’t matter how long a player’s contract is, he can decide he’s leaving.
We sold a player, Fernando Torres, for £50m, that we did not want to sell, we were forced to. Since apparently these contracts don’t seem to hold, we took the position that we’re just not selling [Suarez].

Mickeroo

rarnes1 wrote: »

Yeah but was there a clause last summer?

No idea, reports at the time seemed to suggest that there was and also what Henry said a couple of months ago. The other possibility is it was BS from Suarez's agent at the time and Henry was just trying to make himself look good. Either scenario could be true sure. I don't think Arsenal would have bid for him if they didn't at least think there was a clause.

whatawaster

Tusky wrote: »

Allen has contributed almost nothing so far. He may go on to be a good signing but as it stands, that £15m could have been spent much better.

Can't agree with this at all. He made a significant contribution to us last season and was there, and playing very well, in some of our best performances.

He had injury problems at the start of the season, but he was there when Gerrard was out injured (excellent performances away to Spurs and City amongst others), when Henderson was suspended and when we wanted to go 3 in midfield he was a much better performer than Lucas

When you add to that the fact that he can ably cover for Gerrard in the deep midfield role, for Henderson in the CM role and can play further up effectively when we are playing an intense pressing game, then I think he is extremely valuable to us.

Fitz*

Why do the players with the best songs always leave?

Luis Garcia, Torres, Maxi, now Suarez... Sturridge better not get a good song now!

MD1990

Pete O'Rourke ‏@SkySportsPeteO

Liverpool in advanced talks with Swansea over Wilfried Bony with player's agent thought to be meeting Liverpool officials. #LFC #swansfc

Looks like we are getting in Bony as Suarez's replacement.

Mickeroo

Mickeroo wrote: »

No idea, reports at the time seemed to suggest that there was and also what Henry said a couple of months ago. The other possibility is it was BS from Suarez's agent at the time and Henry was just trying to make himself look good. Either scenario could be true sure. I don't think Arsenal would have bid for him if they didn't at least think there was a clause.

Actually, Henry did come out and admit there was a clause but just refused to sell iirc.

I'm not sure of the legal side of such clauses tbh.

Turtyturd

googled eyes wrote: »

It's still early. The rest will be amused soon

Saptimus Prime hit the nail on the head yesterday....thread has crossed the line into Naked Gun/Airplane territory

Mickeroo

rarnes1 wrote: »

Actually, Henry did come out and admit there was a clause but just refused to sell iirc.

I'm not sure of the legal side of such clauses tbh.

Apparently Arsenal could have taken him to court over it but it would have been pointless as it would have stretched on past the transfer window. Was a pretty ballsy move from Henry to be fair.

Cjs21

Yay or Nay?

Liverpool ‘want £40million Karim Benzema as Luis Suarez replacement’

punk_one82

Cjs21 wrote: »

Yay or Nay?

Liverpool ‘want £40million Karim Benzema as Luis Suarez replacement’

I don't think it will happen but I'd definitely take him!

whatawaster

Cjs21 wrote: »

Yay or Nay?

Liverpool ‘want £40million Karim Benzema as Luis Suarez replacement’

I'd take him, but not at £40m. I don't think he's better than Sturridge.

joe123

Wilfred Bony. Good god almighty.

Not worth near 19 million and is one of the slowest players in the league to boot. Lambert can do what Bony does.

I just don't understand whats going on with our transfer dealings. Overpaying for average players is our game it seems.

I would love Martinez. Even Remy at this stage.

Alfred Borden

joe123 wrote: »

Wilfred Bony. Good god almighty.

Not worth near 19 million and is one of the slowest players in the league to boot. Lambert can do what Bony does.

I just don't understand whats going on with our transfer dealings. Overpaying for average players is our game it seems.

I would love Martinez. Even Remy at this stage.

yee are in for remy to according to graeme bailey