Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 *mod warning linked in OP 26/07*

DeanAustin

hangballlouie wrote: »

and we wait to see the consistency

I'm sure the next player to bite three times will get a similar ban. You think Suarez got punished solely for who he is rather than what he's done and his history?

redbaron_99

Francie Barrett wrote: »

This has to be one of the worst decisions that FIFA have ever taken. Total nonsense.

If a player commits a particularly nasty incident on the pitch. he gets a lengthy ban. It's happened before. It'll happen again.

plastic glass

DeanAustin wrote: »

Some of you boys are clued in but some of you are off your heads.

Liverpool haven't been punished. Your player has bitten opponents three times now. He's been punished and rightly so. Liverpool are collateral damage. Unfortunate but necessary. He bit someone three times. FIFA aren't the cause of the problem. Suarez is.

As for the suggestion FIFA are getting back at the FA over Qatar? Really? Really?

But he did so in a Uruguay shirt and Liverpool are being punished more than Uruguay. And Liverpool cannot even appeal it. And he was able to play for Uruguay when he has banned for Liverpool.

Also Fifa have not really don't this blanket ban before.

Those would be my main grievances.

DrumSteve

I can see this appealed and the training/ground ban removed bbut the game ban remaining.

No matter what anyone says and any excuses we can make for him he was a ****ing idiot to do what he did.

Grayditch

DeanAustin wrote: »

Liverpool haven't been punished. Your player has bitten opponents three times now. He's been punished and rightly so.

You know that people mean indirectly, right?

Agueroooo

If there is any sympathy to be dished out its for Brendan Rodgers.

Nuri Sahin

gimli2112 wrote: »

In fairness I think Uruguay are just about crazy enough to do it. Hadn't realised they are a tiny country, pop. around 3M and football mad. They've got this "fighting spirit" thing in their culture where this could get ugly fast for FIFA.

I'm rooting for Uruguay.

I'm torn on it as I have four figures on Colombia @ 27/20. If Uruguay refuse to play, would Colombia be awarded the win? You'd think so. But the books would argue against paying out or some silly crap like that. All the while, FIFA would probably extend his ban knowing how bonkers they are :pac:

dilallio

Ok lads - Did anyone put money on Suarez to be the top EPL goalscorer for 2014-2015?

DeanAustin

Grayditch wrote: »

You know that people mean indirectly, right?

You understand that there has been no intention to punish Liverpool though right? That you can't properly punish a player without his national team and/or club suffering too. Right?

Easy to have a pop at FIFA but you really should look at your own player and ask questions of him. He has bitten opponents three times. Stop and think about that. Really think about it. The man got what he deserved.

Crash Bang Wall

DeanAustin wrote: »

Some of you boys are clued in but some of you are off your heads.

Liverpool haven't been punished. Your player has bitten opponents three times now. He's been punished and rightly so. Liverpool are collateral damage. Unfortunate but necessary. He bit someone three times. FIFA aren't the cause of the problem. Suarez is.

Suarez is the cause of the problem I agree.....he should be banned, I agree, but 4 months is ridiculous especially when it affects other clubs

FIFA get out of this nicely, missed the rest of the World Cup, and a few friendlies, and maybe South American Championships or whatever its called, and then one of the best players in the World is free to qualify for the next FIFA World Cup........he should be banned for 9 matches plus the equivalent of 4 months for FIFA International tournaments, eg 4 months = 16 weeks, say 20 FIFA games.

We cant even sell him now

redbaron_99

Agueroooo wrote: »

If there is any sympathy to be dished out its for Brendan Rodgers.

I understand the sentiment, but many did say that it was a risk to keep the player after the last incident. Rodgers took the risk on him. He benefited last season. It's hurt him now.

Benzino

So Uruguay are going to appeal the ban. Does this mean the ban does not kick into effect until the appeal is over?

Hangballlouie

DeanAustin wrote: »

I'm sure the next player to bite three times will get a similar ban. You think Suarez got punished solely for who he is rather than what he's done and his history?

i wasn't talking about the Suarez case. something completely different. actually kinda related. soz.

tritium

BastardPrince wrote: »

they could just make it a competitive game ban so..

Sure why not, they're making the rest of it up as they go along after all

Agueroooo

redbaron_99 wrote: »

I understand the sentiment, but many did say that it was a risk to keep the player after the last incident. Rodgers took the risk on him. He benefited last season. It's hurt him now.

are they your own words now before i reply?

Jesus Wept

emmetkenny wrote: »

I wonder how long before some Liverpudlians burn his house down ?

I wonder if they will burn your house down?

Gaillimh1976

dilallio wrote: »

Ok lads - Did anyone put money on Suarez to be the top EPL goalscorer for 2014-2015?

Have money on him to be top scorer in World Cup :(:(

ratracer

I like Luis, and when 4 months is up he'd be the first name on my team sheet. But he has to cop the fcuk on!!

Liverpool are going to suffer because of Luis, not because of FIFA. He owes the club big time and better be sharp and on his game from the start of his return. I agree with his playing ban but the not training part is just bullsh...

redbaron_99

Agueroooo wrote: »

are they your own words now before i reply?

Forgot to post the link earlier. apologies

Grayditch

DeanAustin wrote: »

You understand that there has been no intention to punish Liverpool though right? That you can't properly punish a player without his national team and/or club suffering too. Right?
.

Yeah, I'm just really not sure anyone thinks FIFA are directly punishing Liverpool. I think you're getting caught up in turn of phrase. "This situation is unfair on Liverpool", may be better. They guided him through a fairly incident free season and showed that it can be done. Which sounds like something that shouldn't have to be commended, but with nutcase, it really, really is.

Pyjamarama

It's funny how no non pool fans were in here up in arms about the fact Suarez was able to play for Uruguay during his last ban. Strange...

DeanAustin

plastic glass wrote: »

But he did so in a Uruguay shirt and Liverpool are being punished more than Uruguay. And Liverpool cannot even appeal it. And he was able to play for Uruguay when he has banned for Liverpool.

Also Fifa have not really don't this blanket ban before.

Those would be my main grievances.

They are punishing the player regardless of what jersey he was wearing at the time. What have Uruguay done wrong here any more than Liverpool?

Also, does Suarez become a different person or less of a risk when he pulls on a Liverpool shirt? The player has been punished. You're just unfortunate that he's your player and you've been caught in the crossfire.

Agueroooo

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Forgot to post the link earlier. apologies

lol, no you didn't !!

you edited out the semicolons and conversation to make it look like your own words.

nice try but.

plastic glass

Pyjamarama wrote: »

It's funny how no non pool fans were in here up in arms about the fact Suarez was able to play for Uruguay during his last ban. Strange...

I think it was more the case of most understanding that the F.A and FIFA were different organisations and why should Uruguay get punished for something he did in a Liverpool shirt.

DeanAustin

Grayditch wrote: »

Yeah, I'm just really not sure anyone thinks FIFA are directly punishing Liverpool. I think you're getting caught up in turn of phrase. "This situation is unfair on Liverpool", may be better. They guided him through a fairly incident free season and showed that it can be done. Which sounds like something that shouldn't have to be commended, but with nutcase, it really, really is.

It is harsh on Liverpool I agree. But posters are insinuating that FIFA are the villains here. Suarez has bitten opponents three times. That is mind boggling. He's the one who has caused any unfair punishment Liverpool are suffering not FIFA.

murpho999

28 Premiership game suspensions in 3 seasons. Plus Champions league and League cup games.

Blame FIFA, and Premier League all you want but that is damning.

The club will have to do something as he cannot be relied upon.

Gbear

murpho999 wrote: »

28 Premiership game suspensions in 3 seasons. Plus Champions league and League cup games.

Blame FIFA, and Premier League all you want but that is damning.

The club will have to do something as he cannot be relied upon.

He doesn't get injured much either though.

And clearly he can be relied on. He'll miss 5-10 games a season and for the rest he's immense.

Specialun

Im not one bit surprised that FIFA have gone to town on him bt Im a tad confused by the structure of the Ban. Surely a 12-24 Mth International ban and a lighter club ban would have made more ense, indirectly LFC are punished on a greater extent than the national team

But lets be honest. LS Gave FIFA the ammo

niallo27

murpho999 wrote: »

28 Premiership game suspensions in 3 seasons. Plus Champions league and League cup games.

Blame FIFA, and Premier League all you want but that is damning.

The club will have to do something as he cannot be relied upon.

Of course it is but when you score 30 goals a season you can do what you want. He has still player more games than most of panel.

DeanAustin

tritium wrote: »

Sure why not, they're making the rest of it up as they go along after all

Yeah because as a governing body of a sport you expect to have to legislate for a player biting opponents three times.

Of course they have to make it up as they go along in this instance. That's how outrageous Suarez's behaviour is.

redbaron_99

Agueroooo wrote: »

lol, no you didn't !!

you edited out the semicolons and conversation to make it look like your own words.

nice try but.

LOL You think I'd want Carragher's opinion as my own? :eek:

Thud

Suarez for half a season is still better than most of the prem league strikers for a full season. He'll be chomping at the bit to get back playing in Nov and will give new signings so extra game time to settle in befoe he comes back

Utopia Parkway

Must admit I never expected a club ban. Thought he might be booted out of the WC and maybe a handful of international games on top of that (as Uruguay might only last one more WC game).

First reports were a 9 game ban and I thought yeah that's around what I was expecting. The 4 month all football ban was unexpected I must say.

GotTheTshirt

I never thought I'd say this but if Barca or Madrid still manage to come in with a decent offer I'd get rid and start planning for a future without him.

He did great for us after his last ban and paid the club back in spades for their support but this latest episode is really hurting us and if/when this happens again I don't want Liverpool's biggest asset with a season long ban and practically worthless in the transfer market.

I love watching him play for us but he's one incident away from becoming worthless to LFC and let's be honest it'd be foolish to suggest he won't go nuts on the pitch again.

tritium

plastic glass wrote: »

I think it was more the case of most understanding that the F.A and FIFA were different organisations and why should Uruguay get punished for something he did in a Liverpool shirt.

But don't let that get in the way of having a little dig

So why isnt the reverse also true?

Knex*

Agueroooo wrote: »

lol, no you didn't !!

you edited out the semicolons and conversation to make it look like your own words.

nice try but.

Leave him alone

Its nice having new posters.

Knex*

Knex. wrote: »

Leave him alone

Its nice having new posters.

I agree.

Pyjamarama

plastic glass wrote: »

I think it was more the case of most understanding that the F.A and FIFA were different organisations and why should Uruguay get punished for something he did in a Liverpool shirt.

But don't let that get in the way of having a little dig

But if Uruguay shouldn't be punished for sonething he did in a Liverpool shirt why should pool be for something he did in a Uruguay one?!? That's the entire point!! Thanks for validating it tho.

Dickerty

Gbear wrote: »

He doesn't get injured much either though.

And clearly he can be relied on. He'll miss 5-10 games a season and for the rest he's immense.

But he can't be relied on NOT TO DO IT AGAIN!

Agueroooo

redbaron_99 wrote: »

LOL You think I'd want Carragher's opinion as my own? :eek:

lets have a game of spot the difference...

Jamie Carragher.....
"Now you get the feeling that Liverpool might actually be relieved if Barcelona or Real come in with a bid that triggers a move," he said. "If a lucrative offer arrives in the next few weeks, I am convinced Suarez will be playing his football somewhere else next season."

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Get the feeling that Liverpool might actually be relieved if Barcelona or Real come in with a bid that triggers a move. If a lucrative offer arrives in the next few weeks, I am convinced Suarez will be playing his football somewhere else next season

you do like the way Carragher talks cause you fúcking mugged him for his opinion.

plastic glass

Pyjamarama wrote: »

But if Uruguay shouldn't be punished for sonething he did in a Liverpool shirt why should pool be for something he did in a Uruguay one?!? That's the entire point!! Thanks for validating it tho.

I actually totally misread your post and thought you said 'Liverpool fans' and not 'non Liverpool fans'.

Apologies. A Liverpool fan myself.

murpho999

Gbear wrote: »

He doesn't get injured much either though.

And clearly he can be relied on. He'll miss 5-10 games a season and for the rest he's immense.

niallo27 wrote: »

Of course it is but when you score 30 goals a season you can do what you want. He has still player more games than most of panel.

Club existed before him and will exist after him.

He is dragging the club's name through the mud all the time.

Sponsors will have a say on this too. People have to think of the bigger picture.

I love him as a player too but a manager can't keep being expected to plan a season without it's star player regularly.

D'Agger

Agueroooo wrote: »

lets have a game of spot the difference...






you do like the way Carragher talks cause you fúcking mugged him for his opinion.

Somebody call the authorities!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjqZL_tXy7c

Agueroooo

wall of shame...

Grayditch

It's like we gave him back to his biological parents for the summer and they ruined months of progress.

But it's probably more of a case that he's just... a mental.

messinkiapina

murpho999 wrote: »

28 Premiership game suspensions in 3 seasons. Plus Champions league and League cup games.

That's totally unacceptable, in fairness.

Augmerson

The other schmucks must be raging he didn't get more. 4 months is light to be honest to be doing a ****ing Hannibal Lecter on the world stage.

LFC coped before without Suarez at the start of last season, can do it again next season.

The CL matches we will miss him for though. Only thing to do is get Sanchez in.

redbaron_99

Agueroooo wrote: »

lets have a game of spot the difference...






you do like the way Carragher talks cause you fúcking mugged him for his opinion.

Incorrect. Mine's from the Bleacher Report. There was no "he said" in it.

Anyway, still think when you take a risk, it can pay off or bite you in the ass. IMO
Leave yis to it.

citytillidie

Oh talking about going to the Newcastle away game like last season, would be his 1st game back

Dickerty

GotTheTshirt wrote: »

I love watching him play for us but he's one incident away from becoming worthless to LFC and let's be honest it'd be foolish to suggest he won't go nuts on the pitch again.

+1 purely for using the word "churlish", so why edit it out??