Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 *mod warning linked in OP 26/07*

Bounty Hunter

Do any of Remy or Origi also play WF positions?

any potential Liverpool lineup ive seen has seen you guys line up with only 1 CF and although Sturridge can play that role I think people want to see him centrally which is where he has excelled too and Lambert also only seems a CF to me.

Kerrigooney

Kess73 wrote: »

Pre-internet was brilliant in terms of transfers.

You would come home from school or from being out playing with mates, and there would be something on the radio saying a player had just signed and that would be the first you heard of it.


Some of the bigger transfers back then had very little by way of advance notice. Sure the redtops would carry speculation about players back then, but moves could still be announced seemingly out of the blue.

Better times.

Agent Coulson

Lambert, Lallana, Can and Markovic already signed Remy, Lovren and Origi maybe in the next week.

Then with player sales to come we could still have a transfer kitty close to £100m.

So far so good at building a first team squad. Now time to use that near £100 to bulk up the starting 11.

Kess73

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

Do any of Remy or Origi also play WF positions?

any potential Liverpool lineup ive seen has seen you guys line up with only 1 CF and although Sturridge can play that role I think people want to see him centrally which is where he has excelled too and Lambert also only seems a CF to me.

Remy has played in the WF role a number of times in his career, and has been quite effective there.

0028673

The latest from the Echo on Borini.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fabio-borini-flies-out-liverpool-7461957?

YouTookMyName

Lovern speaking French should help with sakho.

RED L4 0TH

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Lambert, Lallana, Can and Markovic already signed Remy, Lovren and Origi maybe in the next week.

Then with player sales to come we could still have a transfer kitty close to £100m.

So far so good at building a first team squad. Now time to use that near £100 to bulk up the starting 11.

Buy back Luis Suarez............. (gets coat).

Utopia Parkway

Looks like it's going to be a busy week with comings and goings.

Knex*

YouTookMyName wrote: »

Lovern speaking French should help with sakho.

I was thinking the same thing myself. Should definitely help, alright.

Kess73

YouTookMyName wrote: »

Lovern speaking French should help with sakho.

He would help Markovic also as their native languages are mutually intelligible.

Agent Coulson

This language thing should help Mignolet then as well.

If the CB's in front to him both speaking French the understanding will grow.

But saying that I just reading that Mignolet is fluent in five languages that is impressive.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2264744/Simon-Mignolet-interview-On-pressure-injury-degree.html

marno21

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Better times.

I'd imagine they were. Just hearing transfers instead of going on twitter to see:

BREAKING: Daniel Agger has put his house up for sale, fueling spectulation he is about to leave #LFC

Kess73 wrote: »

Remy has played in the WF role a number of times in his career, and has been quite effective there.

Pardew played him on the left (?) wing last year and played Ben Arfa up front once or twice. Playing the winger as a CF and the natural CF on the wing. No wonder they're so bad.

Kess73

Kess73 wrote: »

Lallana will be a first team starter without a doubt imho. I know I have said this already but I am really looking forward to seeing him play for us, and think that he is a genuine upgrade to our starting XI.

Gerrard

Henderson Lallana


Coutinho could be the one to miss out?

I guess it depends on who else signs.

I'm presuming Sturridge and Sterling start btw on current players

gafferino

Saw pictures of Ayre in the states with the team.

So ....who is doing deals for us now?

Why would Origi fly to Boston for a medical? Surely that would be Liverpool.

whatawaster

Coutinho for me is undroppable based on end of season form. When we really needed it, he and Sterling stepped up

klose

Ideally we will be playing 50+ games (cl group qualification & cup runs i hope) so there will be plenty of games so rotation will be needed, cou/lallanna/markovic etc.. might not be nailed on starters every game and thats fine as thats what we need, quality to step in when its needed instead of trying to play the same players game after game and knackering them out.

Bowlardo

rarnes1 wrote: »

Gerrard

Henderson Lallana


Coutinho could be the one to miss out?

I guess it depends on who else signs.

I'm presuming Sturridge and Sterling start btw on current players

I think with the champions league, the cups and the league we are playing everyone is going to get a good run out.


I think coutinho will have a big year this year. Rogers obviously fancies 3/4 players that can put intense pressure on the opposition in their own half and break very quick. It is impossible for player to do this consistently....see southamptons great start and then faded last season so I think it that respect I think you will see rotation of the three behind sturridge
Example
Game 1 Lallana, coutinho, sterling
Game 2 Lallana, Sterling, Lazer
Games3 Sterling,Coutinho, Laser
hendo will move in the central positon the odd time. I think you will see 2/3 subs we will make for the majority of the games will be for the three positons behind sturridge/remy
We will only get 30 games out of sturridge. the rest will be remy.

machiavellianme

RED L4 0TH wrote: »

Buy back Luis Suarez............. (gets coat).

Like what happened with Rush.
We can but dream!

Kingdom

Nothing to say Sterling won't develop into a goal-scoring forward similar to Bale or Ronaldo

I don't mean on their level (yet) but in the way that they are classed as wingers even though they're essentially forwards. Maybe it won't be as structured up top for Liverpool this season, maybe it will be a free for all with 3 places up for grabs, hence Sturridge, Coutinho, Sterling, Lazar, Remy, (and Isco if there's any truth to it) playing hide and seek with the opposition on a weekly basis

~Rebel~

gafferino wrote: »

Saw pictures of Ayre in the states with the team.

So ....who is doing deals for us now?

Why would Origi fly to Boston for a medical? Surely that would be Liverpool.

Unless they specifically want the medical done by Zaf, who I presume is with the team.

Incidentally, I only realised today that we stole Zaf from Spurs - no wonder they've been trying to rob our targets since!

Sir Gallagher

Stoic Remy

Morzadec

Is Lallana better than Coutinho? Time will tell but I still think Coutinho is currently a better player and will be a far better player when he reaches Lallana's age.

Both will possibly be seen as starters with the squad as it is at the moment, with one maybe playing in the midfield 3 and the other wide in the front 3.

But if we did manage a marquee signing in the front 3 such as Di Maria then Lallana would certainly not be in my first eleven.

It is a squad game and im hopeful that Lallana will have an important part to play over the course of the season, but I'm not sure if I'd agree with the assertion that he's a nailed on starter or an obvious improvement on any of the players who play similar positions/roles in the team

Jesus Wept

This Origi guy doesn't score a lot of goals for a striker.

7 goals from 45 career matches. I'd manage that.

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Lambert, Lallana, Can and Markovic already signed Remy, Lovren and Origi maybe in the next week.

Then with player sales to come we could still have a transfer kitty close to £100m.

So far so good at building a first team squad. Now time to use that near £100 to bulk up the starting 11.

This gets said every season after the first few signings and never materialises.

Utopia Parkway

i heart chewy louie wrote: »

This Origi guy doesn't score a lot of goals for a striker.

7 goals from 45 career matches. I'd manage that.

He was 18 years of age last season.

Agent Coulson

i heart chewy louie wrote: »

This Origi guy doesn't score a lot of goals for a striker.

7 goals from 4 career matches. I'd manage that.



This gets said every season after the first few signings and never materialises.

7 in 45 last season in the French league

James Rodriguez had 9 in 40 last seaon in the French league and he is about to go for €80m.

I'm not in anyway comparing them but seeing the pace of the guy and how highly rated he is by some £10m really isn't a huge risk when you see a player come off a great World Cup going for €80m and we are getting one who had a good World Cup for £10 it's a lot better than buying Andy again.

whatawaster

whatawaster wrote: »

Coutinho for me is undroppable based on end of season form. When we really needed it, he and Sterling stepped up

Yeah he improved incredibly.

Who would you drop then if Lallana comes in?

Or more importantly who will Rodgers drop?

mayordenis

Agent Coulson wrote: »

7 in 45 last season in the French league

James Rodriguez had 9 in 40 last seaon in the French league and he is about to go for €80m.

I'm not in anyway comparing them but seeing the pace of the guy and how highly rated he is by some £10m really isn't a huge risk when you see a player come off a great World Cup going for €80m and we are getting one who had a good World Cup for £10 it's a lot better than buying Andy again.

Origi played 45 games in the french league last year? That seems unlikely.

klose

rarnes1 wrote: »

Yeah he improved incredibly.

Who would you drop then if Lallana comes in?

Or more importantly who will Rodgers drop?

Hard to say, nice problem to have though isn't it?

Agent Coulson

mayordenis wrote: »

Origi played 45 games in the french league last year? That seems unlikely.

Sorry 35... 30 league games and 5 cup games.

45 games for Lille in total

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divock_Origi

http://www.transfermarkt.com/divock-origi/leistungsdatenverein/spieler/148368

I read recently Origi started 12 league games last season and had 5 goals

klose

klose wrote: »

Hard to say, nice problem to have though isn't it?

Great problem to have.

With a few good defensive signings and perhaps another midfielder and forward we could have a very decent squad for the coming season

Morzadec

rarnes1 wrote: »

Yeah he improved incredibly.

Who would you drop then if Lallana comes in?

Or more importantly who will Rodgers drop?

Well we dont have Suarez anymore, so I imagine at the moment we're looking at one of Lallana or Coutinho to join Sturridge and Sterling in the front 3 and the other to accompany Henderson in midfield.

I imagine Lazar will begin his Liverpool career from the bench

rob316

Origi will be a better fit for us than borini would ever have been he looks an excellent prospect and I am very happy to see us splash money on young raw potential like him. Again it's a very low risk signing.

Lovren and remy this week also. Get moreno in, a replacement for johnson and one big marquee player it will have been a great window and we should look to challenge again next season.

We wanted sanchez so there is definitely an ambition to get a so called big player in.

Jesus Wept

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

He was 18 years of age last season.

Look I'm writing him off and that is that Utopia Parkway.
Ibe will amount to not much either.

Agent Coulson wrote: »

7 in 45 last season in the French league

James Rodriguez had 9 in 40 last seaon in the French league and he is about to go for €80m.

I'm not in anyway comparing them but seeing the pace of the guy and how highly rated he is by some £10m really isn't a huge risk when you see a player come off a great World Cup going for €80m and we are getting one who had a good World Cup for £10 it's a lot better than buying Andy again.

James isn't a striker. 9/40 is a good/excellent return from a midfielder, 7/45 for a striker?

Jesus Wept

rarnes1 wrote: »

I read recently Origi started 12 league games last season and had 5 goals

His cousin Arnold currently plays for Lillestrøm.

0028673

The Guardian is running with the Lovren & Remy story.

2 great additions. Sort out First team Full backs and it's a very good window considering we lost our best player.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jul/21/liverpool-dejan-lovren-loic-remy?

Jako8

I imagine this plays around the building every time we unveil a new player:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrJ3WKNeeRA

K-9

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

I would think Johnson will stay too but still that sounds like it would still be around 30m brought in from player sales to add to the Suarez money and what you had to spend to begin with.

Johnson is well....meh! He's on big wages though which he doesn't come near justifying for me. Anyway, Borini was on loan so if he decides to go, it isn't going to make a difference to last years squad, Agger or Skrtel both have their uses, though there was talk Toure could be away to Turkey, so maybe we'll have 4 good CB options and little change from last year. It seems a lot to me but then Ilori will probably be loaned and well Coates just didn't work out. Lucas just isn't the player he was and is upgradeable, was mostly a squad player second half of the season.

They are significant changes to the squad, not really the first team. I think this is where people start comparing Spurs to us and forget we only had about 14/15 players we could depend on last season and Glen Johnson! It's inconceivable to go into a CL campaign without adding at least 3 or 4 players when all the deals are done.

Honestly I would think that up to and potentially more than 50m of that won't get touched though, well at least not on transfer, it could go straight into redeveloping Anfield which is huge in itself. Now that might sound bad but as said I doubt everyone would want such huge numbers of new players trying to gel anyway.

I'd agree with you, I can't see them spending £150/160 Million unless they get maybe 2 big names, £60 Million which was always reported plus the Suarez money seems fine to me. Henry has said to reputable journalists that the Anfield money is separate so who knows.

If Remy is signed I wouldnt expect another out and out CF but I wonder if any of the Milan players could be tempted by CL football and Milans penny pinching atm Stephan El Shaarawy for example would mean that say Sterling wouldn't have to start every single game and could be rested from time to time

Sturridge, Remy, Lambert, Coutinho, Sterling, Markovic, Lallana and Henderson aren't bad options for the front 4, I'm not sure if he's what we need.

Strongbow10

K-9 wrote: »

Johnson is well....meh! He's on big wages though which he doesn't come near justifying for me. Anyway, Borini was on loan so if he decides to go, it isn't going to make a difference to last years squad, Agger or Skrtel both have their uses, though there was talk Toure could be away to Turkey, so maybe we'll have 4 good CB options and little change from last year. It seems a lot to me but then Ilori will probably be loaned and well Coates just didn't work out. Lucas just isn't the player he was and is upgradeable, was mostly a squad player second half of the season.

They are significant changes to the squad, not really the first team. I think this is where people start comparing Spurs to us and forget we only had about 14/15 players we could depend on last season and Glen Johnson! It's inconceivable to go into a CL campaign without adding at least 3 or 4 players when all the deals are done.



I'd agree with you, I can't see them spending £150/160 Million unless they get maybe 2 big names, £60 Million which was always reported plus the Suarez money seems fine to me. Henry has said to reputable journalists that the Anfield money is separate so who knows.



Sturridge, Remy, Lambert, Coutinho, Suarez, Sterling, Markovic, Lallana and Henderson aren't bad options for the front 4, I'm not sure if he's what we need.

if only

dogbert27

0028673 wrote: »

I'd love if LFC signed him. He signed a 5 year contract last month so he's going nowhere.

Suarez signed a new contract with Liverpool last December!:pac:

K-9

whatawaster wrote: »

Coutinho for me is undroppable based on end of season form. When we really needed it, he and Sterling stepped up

That was the encouraging thing towards the end of last season, when Sturridge and even the Suarez goals dried up a bit.

i heart chewy louie wrote: »

This Origi guy doesn't score a lot of goals for a striker.

7 goals from 45 career matches. I'd manage that.



This gets said every season after the first few signings and never materialises.

Well his first season, he looked not bad for his age in the WC, plus its a long term thing, ideally be a squad player season after next.

As for the squad, we never had this much De Niro to spend before. We could end up spending more than Rodgers has had in his time here, in one Summer.

Morzadec wrote: »

Well we dont have Suarez anymore, so I imagine at the moment we're looking at one of Lallana or Coutinho to join Sturridge and Sterling in the front 3 and the other to accompany Henderson in midfield.

I imagine Lazar will begin his Liverpool career from the bench

I do think we'll be starting with most of the regulars last season and easing the new signings in as much as possible, makes sense.

K-9

Strongbow10 wrote: »

if only

I left Lambert out the last day, even more unforgiveable, I'm not used to having to list attacking options.

dogbert27

Kerrigooney wrote: »

He'd never join us. His life wouldn't be worth living in Liverpool.

Unless he said "it was always my dream to one day play for a big club!" I don't see why.
Obviously he'd get some stick but Everton are not going to crack the top four.
He'd get CL football straight away by joining this summer and I'm sure if Kenwright was offered 20 million for a player he paid half a million for he'd bite your hand off!!!

Kingdom

dogbert27 wrote: »

I'm sure if Kenwright was offered 20 million for a player he paid half a million for he'd bite your hand off!!!

50k or 70k depending on who you listen to.

Calvin

Di Maria looks set for PSG..would it be worth it to throw a bid at Lucas Moura or Lavezzi?

witnessrenegade

So 3 more players to come in, still none of them are really getting me excited, it can't be that hard to convince one top class player to come to us, we're in the CL, and came second last year, maybe im being too greedy but id love another great player to come in and take that number 7 shirt, if Sterling keeps his form up it's his for the taking

Vicxas

witnessrenegade wrote: »

So 3 more players to come in, still none of them are really getting me excited, it can't be that hard to convince one top class player to come to us, we're in the CL, and came second last year, maybe im being too greedy but id love another great player to come in and take that number 7 shirt, if Sterling keeps his form up it's his for the taking

Possibly Rodgers wants to get the squad players in before he makes the "Big" signing.

Well, I hope so....

whatawaster

rarnes1 wrote: »

Yeah he improved incredibly.

Who would you drop then if Lallana comes in?

Or more importantly who will Rodgers drop?

He would be a rotation player for me. As our squad currently stands:

Easier home matches

---

Gerrard

---

Henderson

---

Sterling---Coutinho----Markovic

---

Sturridge

---

For trickier games

---

Gerrard

---

Allen----

---

Henderson

Sterling----Sturridge----Coutinho

Those would be my default lineups.
Obviously we have Remy, Markovic, Lallana, Lambert, Can and others who could potentially come in.

Devilman40k

I think a lot of people might be surprised by Lallana. He's not coming to Anfield to make up the numbers, I can see him starting a number of games in midfield alongside Henderson and Gerrard, giving us extra pace and running.

Vicxas

Devilman40k wrote: »

I think a lot of people might be surprised by Lallana. He's not coming to Anfield to make up the numbers, I can see him starting a number of games in midfield alongside Henderson and Gerrard, giving us extra pace and running.

I think it'll be a Lallana - Henderson - Gerrard - Markovic for the most part.