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Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 *mod warning linked in OP 26/07*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,321 ✭✭✭ratracer


    Augmerson wrote: »
    Ah feck I just got Suarez's name on my jersey and all.

    Is it a barca or a real jersey you got?? ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,987 ✭✭✭Kerrigooney


    Got a laugh out of that, but not sure I agree. If a good player plus obscene money was offered, take it.

    Love him as much as I do, he's too much of a risk and you just know he'll get a season long ban the next time he even mistimes a tackle simple because it's him.

    Aye...it's a worry alright and tbh I'm slightly torn on him staying or going. I can't seem to make up my mind. Atm I want him to stay tho.

    Could be different tomorrow tho...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭Augmerson


    ratracer wrote: »
    Is it a barca or a real jersey you got?? ;)

    MK Dons


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,987 ✭✭✭Kerrigooney


    T-K-O wrote: »
    This. I really want to see us with Suarez in the CL. So he's a little bitey, meh, I'm over it.

    It's so bloody annoying that after fighting so hard to get us there he'll miss half the group games. Unless an appeal changes that. Doubt it will tho.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,845 ✭✭✭Hidalgo


    T-K-O wrote: »
    This. I really want to see us with Suarez in the CL. So he's a little bitey, meh, I'm over it.

    Will your attitude change if Suarez has another fcukup and ends up with anything like a year ban.
    That's when Liverpool will be really screwed. If he does something mental it will probably cost Liverpool CL that season


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,845 ✭✭✭Hidalgo


    T-K-O wrote: »
    This. I really want to see us with Suarez in the CL. So he's a little bitey, meh, I'm over it.

    Will your attitude change if Suarez has another fcukup and ends up with anything like a year ban.
    That's when Liverpool will be really screwed. If he does something mental it will probably cost Liverpool CL that season


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,674 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Aye...it's a worry alright and tbh I'm slightly torn on him staying or going. I can't seem to make up my mind. Atm I want him to stay tho.

    Could be different tomorrow tho...

    Well, we've been here before. Owen left? We got Torres. Torres left? We got Luis. Luis leaves...?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    Hidalgo wrote: »
    Will your attitude change if Suarez has another fcukup and ends up with anything like a year ban.
    That's when Liverpool will be really screwed. If he does something mental it will probably cost Liverpool CL that season

    He has already done something mental, *3.

    Ideal scenario for me, he stays for another season on his best behaviour & form working towards a move next summer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 241 ✭✭bitemeluis


    How many champions league games is he out for?


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  • Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    Well, we've been here before. Owen left? We got Torres. Torres left? We got Luis. Luis leaves...?

    We get Moses!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,066 ✭✭✭Washington Irving


    bitemeluis wrote: »
    How many champions league games is he out for?

    Three.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 241 ✭✭bitemeluis


    Thats not so bad - theres usually a rubbish team in each group - win that and a draw in at least one of the other two - sorted


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,930 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    bitemeluis wrote: »
    Thats not so bad - theres usually a rubbish team in each group - win that and a draw in at least one of the other two - sorted


    That could be us this season ;) with our ranking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,910 ✭✭✭✭whatawaster


    T-K-O wrote: »
    He has already done something mental, *3.

    Ideal scenario for me, he stays for another season on his best behaviour & form working towards a move next summer.

    Past experience (significant bans in each of the last 4 seasons) suggest he will repeat offend.

    I think there are some heads in sand with regards to the Suarez situation.

    He stays - we get 75% of a season out of him, max. Best case scenario he keeps his cool, scores lots of goals to get us into the CL and he probably moves on next summer for more money than we'd get now.
    Worst case scenario - he gets another ban (a longer one), wants to leave next summer anyway and his value has depreciated further.

    I think we are looking at one more season max from Suarez, I really believe that. If he stays, he is going to want to leave next year.

    If, and it's a big if, we could get a replacement as good as Sanchez, then it's good business in my book.

    Sanchez is no Suarez (but he is two years younger and might have the potential to be in Suarez's class). But Sanchez for a full season next year might be preferable to Suarez for 3/4 of it. Throw in a significant sum of money on top of that and it becomes more tempting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,580 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,066 ✭✭✭Washington Irving


    Well, we've been here before. Owen left? We got Torres. Torres left? We got Luis. Luis leaves...?

    We were three years replacing Owen, with a few duds in between.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,910 ✭✭✭✭whatawaster


    Fieldog wrote: »

    INEVITABLE

    NEGOTIATING

    AGREED


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,580 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    INEVITABLE

    NEGOTIATING

    AGREED

    Typical United fans liking it in my feed... :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,694 ✭✭✭BMJD


    INEVITABLE

    NEGOTIATING

    AGREED

    the capitals are frightening here, must be more true


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 241 ✭✭bitemeluis


    Fieldog wrote: »
    Typical United fans liking it in my feed... :/

    All this Suarez stuff is a godsend for Rooney - we've already forgotten how crap he was at the world cup


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    Past experience (significant bans in each of the last 4 seasons) suggest he will repeat offend.

    I think there are some heads in sand with regards to the Suarez situation.

    He stays - we get 75% of a season out of him, max. Best case scenario he keeps his cool, scores lots of goals to get us into the CL and he probably moves on next summer for more money than we'd get now.
    Worst case scenario - he gets another ban (a longer one), wants to leave next summer anyway and his value has depreciated further.

    I think we are looking at one more season max from Suarez, I really believe that. If he stays, he is going to want to leave next year.

    If, and it's a big if, we could get a replacement as good as Sanchez, then it's good business in my book.

    Sanchez is no Suarez (but he is two years younger and might have the potential to be in Suarez's class). But Sanchez for a full season next year might be preferable to Suarez for 3/4 of it. Throw in a significant sum of money on top of that and it becomes more tempting.

    That's what I'm saying.

    If Barca / Real are dragging their heels,hang up the phone.

    IF we can get Sanchez & 50 million, I would be happy enough with that. However, not getting to see LFC & Suarez in the CL will be disappointing.


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    bitemeluis wrote: »
    All this Suarez stuff is a godsend for Rooney - we've already forgotten how crap he was at the world cup

    Godsend for England in general.

    Hodgson escaping with his job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,296 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Anyone else see the made up story today about United wanting kuyt? Best bs story of the summer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,395 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    Would be a big mistake to sell Suarez. Might be a nutter but you just cant replace a world class talent like that even if we buy in some very good players with the money. Find it hard to believe we will be as good next season without him. Nightmare scenario Barca sell Sanchez to Arsenal or Man U to fund a Suarez bid. Liverpool should be adamant that no Suarez deal happens unless Sanchez is included.

    Granted the player has to agree as well. Which might be the sticking point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,222 ✭✭✭Calvin


    I don't think I could deal with Suarez leaving. I mean, it's been a while since we've had a player of his talent at the club..he's literally the difference between 4th place and challenging for the title imo. That's the kind of player he is + I love watching him nuts a few players and the passion he plays with :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    Would be a big mistake to sell Suarez. Might be a nutter but you just cant replace a world class talent like that even if we buy in some very good players with the money. Find it hard to believe we will be as good next season without him. Nightmare scenario Barca sell Sanchez to Arsenal or Man U to fund a Suarez bid. Liverpool should be adamant that no Suarez deal happens unless Sanchez is included.

    Granted the player has to agree as well. Which might be the sticking point.

    Fixed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭simongurnick


    I don't think I could deal with Suarez leaving. I mean, it's been a while since we've had a player of his talent at the club..he's literally the difference between 4th place and challenging for the title imo. That's the kind of player he is + I love watching him nuts a few players and the passion he plays with :D

    Agreed. For me, what I love about Suarez, even more than the fact that he simple makes the team better, is the sheer joy of watching this lad play football.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Kolido


    I don't think I could deal with Suarez leaving. I mean, it's been a while since we've had a player of his talent at the club..he's literally the difference between 4th place and challenging for the title imo. That's the kind of player he is + I love watching him nuts a few players and the passion he plays with :D


    Torres wasn't far away before he moved to Chelsea, in terms of number of goals score at least plus he had less suspensions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,594 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    I don't think I could deal with Suarez leaving. I mean, it's been a while since we've had a player of his talent at the club..he's literally the difference between 4th place and challenging for the title imo. That's the kind of player he is + I love watching him nuts a few players and the passion he plays with :D

    I felt the same when rush left for juventus mind you I was only 10/11


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,409 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    Fowler, when he left a piece of me died.
    Carried us as a teenager.
    That game against Arsenal when he got three in five minutes, jebus wept.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,404 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Would hate to see Suarez go but we need a guy who can actually do preseason with us :P

    I'm hoping Sturridge and Lambert can fill the void until then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,930 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Another thing to look at with Suarez is how is it affecting the moral of the squad.

    If it is having a negative effect then this will also play a part in what happens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭Dickerty


    gimli2112 wrote: »
    Fowler, when he left a piece of me died.
    Carried us as a teenager.
    That game against Arsenal when he got three in five minutes, jebus wept.

    4 mins 33... :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    gimli2112 wrote: »
    Fowler, when he left a piece of me died.
    Carried us as a teenager.
    That game against Arsenal when he got three in five minutes, jebus wept.
    Kolido wrote: »
    Torres wasn't far away before he moved to Chelsea, in terms of number of goals score at least plus he had less suspensions.

    Both Torres and Fowler weren't great when they left. Luis is at his absolute peak.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,224 ✭✭✭barone


    The biggest issue for me is that luis is not bending over and taking what he deserves,he thinks it aint so bad..harsh ban etc..after his 3rd offence remember. He has not learned at all,if he admitted he was wrong,committed himself to get help psycologicly then there would be a.more brighter outlook for him,might even get a reduced ban on appeal..

    Without doubt one of the elite players in world football,but a complete liability with his attitude to his offences.

    But we cant replace him,so i still dont wanna see him leave,ensure he gets help and hope it dosent take the manic desire to win/score away from him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭Devilman40k


    barone wrote: »
    The biggest issue for me is that luis is not bending over and taking what he deserves,he thinks it aint so bad..harsh ban etc..after his 3rd offence remember. He has not learned at all,if he admitted he was wrong,committed himself to get help psycologicly then there would be a.more brighter outlook for him,might even get a reduced ban on appeal..

    He hasn't accepted what he has done is wrong. Anyone can see it, the world outside Uruguay can see it. If he had done it in a red shirt you can be guaranteed he would be aware of it already.

    And this is biggest issue for me, just exactly who is giving him this advice. At Anfield, Rodgers, Ayre and the rest would put him in no doubt how bad it was and that he was in the wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    Kolido wrote: »
    Torres wasn't far away before he moved to Chelsea, in terms of number of goals score at least plus he had less suspensions.

    Fewer suspensions but a lot more time on the medics table. I'd rather a player suspended and able to play when it ends than one who is broken and every comeback has an air of trepidation while we wait and see if the player recovers properly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,325 ✭✭✭smileyj1987


    ratracer wrote: »
    Is it a barca or a real jersey you got?? ;)

    I'm tempted to get chewie no. 7 on the back of mine .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Any word on Llanana then, papers said he'd sign today.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭monkey9


    It's funny how Suarez desperately wants Champions League football when he's never around to play in the bloody competition.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭Augmerson


    Fieldog wrote: »
    Typical United fans liking it in my feed... :/

    Why are you friends with Man U fans? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭Dickerty


    Augmerson wrote: »
    Why are you friends with Man U fans? :pac:

    I am married to one! Sometimes, it's unavoidable...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭Dickerty


    I'm tempted to get chewie no. 7 on the back of mine .

    Who will our next #7 be? Do you think Sanchez would like it, or should we offer it to Sterling??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,325 ✭✭✭smileyj1987


    Dickerty wrote: »
    Who will our next #7 be? Do you think Sanchez would like it, or should we offer it to Sterling??

    Ah sure who ever gets the jersey I can just nickname said player chewie and it's all good .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,564 ✭✭✭✭OwaynOTT


    Dickerty wrote: »
    I am married to one! Sometimes, it's unavoidable...

    No diggity.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭Dickerty


    OwaynOTT wrote: »
    No diggity.

    No doubt! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,800 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Coates faster than Cristiano Ronaldo according to FIFA stats at the World Cup :pac:

    http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/statistics/players/distance.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,564 ✭✭✭✭OwaynOTT


    Papadopolous(spelling?) is the best player we never signed.
    Won me €50 quid last night in the Greece game and he wasn't even in the squad.
    I put a euro on him to score at 50/1 and he scored the equaliser. I usually never gamble but when I do, I get the players all mixed up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,580 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    Augmerson wrote: »
    Why are you friends with Man U fans? :pac:

    They have been a lot quieter the last year or so.... :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,409 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    Just looking at the tabloid transfer news for Spurs. It's ridiculous how many of our targets they're after. I no longer find this funny!


    North London rivals Arsenal and Tottenham are preparing bids for Álvaro Moratal, the Real Madrid forward, after Juventus launched a final offer of £16m for the 21-year-old. (Daily Express)
    Tottenham are keen to sign defender Dejan Lovren, 24, from Southampton. The Croatia international also interests Liverpool. (Mirror)
    Liverpool and Tottenham are on course to engage in a summer battle for Real Madrid left-back Marcelo. (Daily Star)
    Sunderland defender John O'Shea is happy to stay on Wearside despite speculation linking him with Spurs. (Sunderland Echo)
    Tottenham are set to gatecrash Liverpool's £15m deal for Southampton star Dejan Lovren. (Daily Star)
    Hull City are preparing to seal the £8m transfer of Jake Livermore from White Hart Lane. (Hull Daily Mail)


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