Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 *mod warning linked in OP 26/07*

googled eyes

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Klaas-Jan Huntelaar




http://metro.co.uk/2014/07/03/emre-can-completes-liverpool-transfer-but-klaas-jan-huntelaar-drops-hint-he-may-follow-4785791/

Has he not been out injured ALOT ?

And he's around 30 ?

MarkY91

Washington Irving wrote: »

What's with all the grim, depressing pics, hey? How about some rainbows and pandas?

i was focusing on that one legend who stood with us through good and bad times. all them players came and left. more of their calibre will come and go

cunnifferous

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Klaas-Jan Huntelaar




http://metro.co.uk/2014/07/03/emre-can-completes-liverpool-transfer-but-klaas-jan-huntelaar-drops-hint-he-may-follow-4785791/

Do we need 2 30+ year old back up strikers?

Agent Coulson

I'd say he is just trying to link himself for a move to create interest among clubs.

Hotfail.com

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I'd say he is just trying to link himself for a move to create interest among clubs.

I'd say so, I've heard no Huntelaar to Liverpool rumours tbh

bitemeluis

25m for Lallana and Tony Kroos is goin for 20m - other than Sanchez as part of the Suarez deal we dont seem to be linked to truly world class players even if they are within our budget - something wrong here

klose

bitemeluis wrote: »

25m for Lallana and Tony Kroos is goin for 20m - other than Sanchez as part of the Suarez deal we dont seem to be linked to truly world class players even if they are within our budget - something wrong here

Fairly chalk and cheese when you scratch beneath the surface a little bit tbf

Calvin

bitemeluis wrote: »

25m for Lallana and Tony Kroos is goin for 20m - other than Sanchez as part of the Suarez deal we dont seem to be linked to truly world class players even if they are within our budget - something wrong here

idk, maybe Madrid is a more attractive club than ours and other clubs seem to feel as if they're in gods presence when those sort of big clubs come knocking on the door....don't even know why Pep is selling to his former club's rivals, if he had any respect for Barca. Guess that's football these days.

MonkeyTennis

Kids, I dont wanna get all True Detective on you .. but i feel I must.

That thing you been follwin aint just one man.. hes a hella hope a lots o things. A thing you dont expect. A dream in the night

A good thing. The minute you let go, you lost.

There is no Suarez, same as there wasnt no Torres, same as there was no Rush, nor Dalglish , nor Keegan.

There is Liverpool. It shall prevail.

ush

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

Kids, I dont wanna get all True Detective on you .. but i feel I must.

"Our Year" - Rust Cohle

Jesus Wept

Super-Rush wrote: »

Reports coming out that we've accepted an offer of €90 million for Suarez. Sanchez is not part of the deal.

€ my balls

Hidalgo

marno21 wrote: »

In a way happy he's not a part of the deal. Barcelona would almost certainly have overvalued him as part of a player exchange

In a way I'd like if Sanchez was included even if it meant overpaying. It might have kept the deal more private and lessen the opportunity for other clubs to get Sanchez.
He's one player I don't mind overpaying to secure

machiavellianme

MarkY91 wrote: »

I'm seeing a common denominator here. Thank god we've managed to keep our best player all these years. Imagine what it'll be like when Stevie finally goes!

machiavellianme

Super-Rush wrote: »

Reports coming out that we've accepted an offer of €90 million for Suarez. Sanchez is not part of the deal.

Ok so that's the first stage payment up front. How much in total including add ons?

Vicxas

Why is Suarez going for less than bale did?

Kerrigooney

Vicxas wrote: »

Why is Suarez going for less than bale did?

Because he's older and more bitey?

redbaron_99

Vicxas wrote: »

Why is Suarez going for less than bale did?

4 years older - better resale value, only one club bidding, likes to bite people..

BenEadir

Vicxas wrote: »

Why is Suarez going for less than bale did?

Because when Bake was sold he had 8 years until he hit 31, Suarez has only 4 years left.

€100m / 8 =12.5m per annum

€80m / 4 = €20m per annum

Suarez is actually choosing more than Bake given his shorter time left at the top.

Ben

Soft Falling Rain

ush wrote: »

"Our Year" - Rust Cohle

Rust would be more likely to say "No-one's year." :pac:

8-10

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Klaas-Jan Huntelaar




http://metro.co.uk/2014/07/03/emre-can-completes-liverpool-transfer-but-klaas-jan-huntelaar-drops-hint-he-may-follow-4785791/

I would wet myself over this one! If it's not true I hope the rumours go away soon. Love love this player

Speak Now

Vicxas wrote: »

Why is Suarez going for less than bale did?

Vicxas

Well. That answered my question :P

Dickerty

I would also love to get KJH. I really wanted him when Schalke signed him. He's a proven goal scorer.
Has done it in 4 of the top 5 leagues in Europe, it's only right he does it in England!

And for the talk of injuries, he played 139 times in 4 seasons, only missed a few months of last season, nothing the season before. And scored 91 goals in 4 seasons, you can't argue with averaging 24 goals a season.

I'd prefer Sanchez as a like for like with Suarez, but I could get on board with Huntelaar. We need depth and options, Sturridge will need cover...

8-10

Exactly. There's a need for a lot more players now with CL. It's all well and good getting the young flashy wide forwards in but the mobile goalscorer up front is Sturridge, and he needs backup. Huntelaar and Lambert would be perfect for coming off the bench or starting in case of injury/form dip.

The Hunter will score goals. He does it as well as anybody has over the past 10yrs. My main worry is his wages but would hugely welcome him coming if at all possible.

S. Goodspeed

If we cant get Sanchez we should tell Barca that Arsenal (or any prem team) cant either. Probably not legal/feasible but worth a shot..

Dickerty

8-10 wrote: »

Exactly. There's a need for a lot more players now with CL. It's all well and good getting the young flashy wide forwards in but the mobile goalscorer up front is Sturridge, and he needs backup. Huntelaar and Lambert would be perfect for coming off the bench or starting in case of injury/form dip.

The Hunter will score goals. He does it as well as anybody has over the past 10yrs. My main worry is his wages but would hugely welcome him coming if at all possible.

He'd be on the wages of an experienced CL striker, which is what he is.
But how often would we start him?

I think we need to change out mindset. It was ok for United to have Chicharito and Berbatov on their bench, or Chelsea with Torres and Ba on theirs, or City with Negredo and Jovetic. We need that level of quality in reserve when we need to change things, either from the start or during a game...

redbaron_99

Liverpool should tell Barca where to go, if this is true. This is something Barca have done before - as far as I can remember, Arsenal still havent been paid the full amount for Fabregas (or maybe it's Song).

Sport Witness @Sport_Witness
"Catalan newspaper Sport reiterate Barcelona want to pay much less than reported figures for Suarez, and structure payment over few years."

And while you're at it, tell Southampton to tip on aswell if this is true:


@BBCSport
@LFC's £20m offer for @SouthamptonFC defender Dejan Lovren is rejected.

Kimbot

IF Barca dont meet the valuation then they should get bent.

Iused2likebusts

S. Goodspeed wrote: »

If we cant get Sanchez we should tell Barca that Arsenal (or any prem team) cant either. Probably not legal/feasible but worth a shot..

Not a hope of that happening.

Soft Falling Rain

jonny24ie wrote: »

IF Barca dont meet the valuation then they should get bent.

I would wholeheartedly support them changing their attention to Darren Bent.

kop77

You would imagine Suarez would break the trend....

Dickerty

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Liverpool should tell Barca where to go, if this is true. This is something Barca have done before - as far as I can remember, Arsenal still havent been paid the full amount for Fabregas (or maybe it's Song).

Sport Witness @Sport_Witness
"Catalan newspaper Sport reiterate Barcelona want to pay much less than reported figures for Suarez, and structure payment over few years."

And while you're at it, tell Southampton to tip on aswell if this is true:


@BBCSport
@LFC's £20m offer for @SouthamptonFC defender Dejan Lovren is rejected.

If they have really rejected £20M for him, we HAVE to go elsewhere. That's a preposterous amount for him as it is, unless someone will give us about £15m for Skrtel, and someone else £10M for Coates...

Vicxas

If a player hands in a transfer request, do the club have to review them or can they still flat out reject them?

Soft Falling Rain

Vicxas wrote: »

If a player hands in a transfer request, do the club have to review them or can they still flat out reject them?

Flat out reject if they want I would have thought.

LiamoSail

Surprised the support act haven't been out yet with comments about Suarez having Barca DNA or similar.

They did it with Masch, with Fabregas and with Sanchez. Essentially forced clubs to sell below their price by unsettling the player. I hope we hold them and their more then a club sandwich brigade to ransom. £80m or £55m plus Sanchez. No room for negotiation, take it or leave it. We don't need to negotiate, the transfer falling through wouldn't be a bad outcome for us necessarily, so play to our strengths

gafferino

People going mental about 20m for Lovren....this is what is being reported in the press.
Hasnt it emerged that the fee for Lallana is 18m rising to 20 something if milestones are met?

LiamoSail

Vicxas wrote: »

If a player hands in a transfer request, do the club have to review them or can they still flat out reject them?

It would probably be our interests. Handing in a transfer request doesn't mean we have to sell, but it relieves us of our obligation to pay out his contract when he leaves.

LiamoSail

gafferino wrote: »

People going mental about 20m for Lovren....this is what is being reported in the press.
Hasnt it emerged that the fee for Lallana is 18m rising to 20 something if milestones are met?

Also, given the new TV deal, the price of Premier League based players has just increased by a significant margin

8-10

kop77 wrote: »

You would imagine Suarez would break the trend....

Torres has scored way more than 5 goals for Chelsea surely? It's been 3 and a half years!

Kimbot

8-10 wrote: »

Torres has scored way more than 5 goals for Chelsea surely? It's been 3 and a half years!

20 goals hes scored for them in nearly 4 years, 5 odd a season.

NukaCola

gafferino wrote: »

People going mental about 20m for Lovren....this is what is being reported in the press.
Hasnt it emerged that the fee for Lallana is 18m rising to 20 something if milestones are met?

First i heard of it tbh......do you have a link?

NukaCola

8-10 wrote: »

Torres has scored way more than 5 goals for Chelsea surely? It's been 3 and a half years!

He has 45 goals for Chelsea. 20 in the EPL.

8-10

NukaCola wrote: »

He has 45 goals for Chelsea. 20 in the EPL.

Exactly, that chart is way off, it's not just looking at league goals (but would still be inaccurate if it was!)

DDC1990

Any chance that chart could be 3 years old?

Kimbot

NukaCola wrote: »

He has 45 goals for Chelsea. 20 in the EPL.

yep sorry i meant to say in the EPL.

Its a bad stat though for someone that used to score goals for fun.

Dickerty

NukaCola wrote: »

First i heard of it tbh......do you have a link?

A lot of sources saying it was £16M up front. £4M going to Bournemouth, with significant add ons, probably to make sure Soton get 100% of those extras...

8-10

DDC1990 wrote: »

Any chance that chart could be 3 years old?

That would be summer of 2011. He only joined at end of January transfer window, wouldn't have made 48 appearances by then. It probably is dated alright but then that's not really a fair reflection on the chap, it's still going to be a good decrease in goals per game

NukaCola

DDC1990 wrote: »

Any chance that chart could be 3 years old?

Well in his first 46 appearances for Chelsea he scored 7 EPL goals and 12 overall so no, its just wrong.

gafferino

NukaCola wrote: »

First i heard of it tbh......do you have a link?

No sorry - its been mentioned in here a few time iirc. Again not concrete (the fee wasnt released?) but I think the the initial fee is meant to be 18-20m. I think Kess may have posted it?

8-10

jonny24ie wrote: »

yep sorry i meant to say in the EPL.

Its a bad stat though for someone that used to score goals for fun.

In the EPL he scored 65 for Liverpool, he scored 81 in all comps so it's the figure for all competitions that the chart is using. If they want to compare like with like it has to be the figure in all comps on the chelsea side too.