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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Charizard


    mzungu wrote: »
    That's because you worked in a bar. It stands to reason that any hook ups you see there will have drink involved, and I would bet it would mostly be among a younger age demographic. Most people I know met their partners through work, clubs (running, hillwalking, badminton etc). There was a few who met at a bar on nights out, but none would have been full of booze or anything like that.
    I also have not worked in a bar, where its the exact same, people meet through drink in this country. Its a tiny percentage who dont meet like this in Ireland. I honestly dont know how people are ignoring this and arguing it. I never said full of booze, I said Irish men generally need drink to approach a woman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,157 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    Charizard wrote: »
    I also have not worked in a bar, where its the exact same, people meet through drink in this country. Its a tiny percentage who dont meet like this in Ireland. I honestly dont know how people are ignoring this and arguing it. I never said full of booze, I said Irish men generally need drink to approach a woman.

    I actually don't know any couples that have met on a night out tbh. It's nearly always through work, hobbies or friends. Alcohol does play a big part in getting together afterwards though. Two people might meet in work but won't try it on until the obligatory night out when they've had a few.

    I would agree that Irish men generally need alcohol to approach women on a night out, but I don't think that's how the majority of couples actually meet each other. The booze is just a social lubricant.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,174 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    TBH Charizard having a discussion with you is all too often fruitless. You make your mind up about something and that's that as far as your concerned.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Charizard


    Wibbs wrote: »
    TBH Charizard having a discussion with you is all too often fruitless. You make your mind up about something and that's that as far as your concerned.
    Really? Ive always found myself quiet open minded. However there is certain subjects which I feel very strongly about and Irish culture(dating/drinking/etc) is one. I think we merely only meet in this very small section which I disagree with a lot of people on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭Olishi4


    Also to me, the way it's being described, it sounds like all people are getting waisted before approaching someone but when I've been out with friends, plenty of times, lads would come over and make conversation and they'd only have had one or two drinks.

    What about on first dates when people go to a restaurant. Do they only order wine so they can get through the date or are they just enjoying the company, food and drink?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Charizard


    I actually don't know any couples that have met on a night out tbh. It's nearly always through work, hobbies or friends. Alcohol does play a big part in getting together afterwards though. Two people might meet in work but won't try it on until the obligatory night out when they've had a few.

    I would agree that Irish men generally need alcohol to approach women on a night out, but I don't think that's how the majority of couples actually meet each other. The booze is just a social lubricant.
    My original point was that Irish people needed drink to do all of this, everything you say is 100% true


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Charizard


    Olishi4 wrote: »
    Also to me, the way it's being described, it sounds like all people are getting waisted before approaching someone but when I've been out with friends, plenty of times, lads would come over and make conversation and they'd only have had one or two drinks.

    What about on first dates when people go to a restaurant. Do they only order wine so they can get through the date or are they just enjoying the company, food and drink?
    I apologize if you feel Im saying that, I never mentioned getting wasted, merely drink was needed in most cases. Guys who get with girls on a date rather than a pub setting is minimal. Like Ive said this is changing which I for one am delighted with, Ive never enjoyed the pub setting, Id much rather climb a mountain with someone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,399 ✭✭✭sozbox


    My 3 longest relationships were through meeting in college lectures (x2) and a cold approach to a girl who was working at a sandwich place.Get a bigger sample size ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭Olishi4


    Charizard wrote: »
    I apologize if you feel Im saying that, I never mentioned getting wasted, merely drink was needed in most cases. Guys who get with girls on a date rather than a pub setting is minimal. Like Ive said this is changing which I for one am delighted with, Ive never enjoyed the pub setting, Id much rather climb a mountain with someone

    No the origin of this conversation was from a poster that said Irish men and women get "****faced" and fall into bed. Thats why i am saying that. Some people enjoy a drink and do it sensibly. They might also meet someone when theyre out.

    You missed my point about the restaurant. Drink involved there is ok in your opinion?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Charizard


    Olishi4 wrote: »
    No the origin of this conversation was from a poster that said Irish men and women get "****faced" and fall into bed. Thats why i am saying that. Some people enjoy a drink and do it sensibly. They might also meet someone when theyre out.

    You missed my point about the restaurant. Drink involved there is ok in your opinion?
    I dont think drink being involved is wrong anywhere, more that its a crutch that we as a people use. Im not anti drink or anything, I think we need more variety, which in fairness is becoming more prominent


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Charizard


    sozbox wrote: »
    My 3 longest relationships were through meeting in college lectures (x2) and a cold approach to a girl who was working at a sandwich place.Get a bigger sample size ;)
    Thats three of how many girls though ;) percentage baby :D
    I like myself personally Ive never actually been in a relationship with a girl I met on a night out. Im married to a girl I met in a hostel in Canada


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭Olishi4


    Charizard wrote: »
    I dont think drink being involved is wrong anywhere, more that its a crutch that we as a people use. Im not anti drink or anything, I think we need more variety, which in fairness is becoming more prominent

    Ok so that's where I'm lost in this because I know loads of people that met through work, where they live or grew up, hobbies, through friends, meeting groups, travel etc. We have online dating. People also meet in pubs/clubs/parties.

    So what are we in Ireland lacking than any other country?

    We don't tend to approach people on the street for dates. Is that what we are talking about, that we should do this more?


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,538 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    Charizard wrote: »
    I apologize if you feel Im saying that, I never mentioned getting wasted, merely drink was needed in most cases. Guys who get with girls on a date rather than a pub setting is minimal. Like Ive said this is changing which I for one am delighted with, Ive never enjoyed the pub setting, Id much rather climb a mountain with someone
    Charizard wrote: »
    So your honestly saying 90% of relationships in Ireland dont begin with the man being drunk or needing drink for courage. Cause friend youre blind if you think its not the case

    Theres a world of difference between saying a lot of people will have a drink on a date, and that they need a drink on a date.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,309 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    Charizard wrote: »
    I also have not worked in a bar, where its the exact same, people meet through drink in this country. Its a tiny percentage who dont meet like this in Ireland. I honestly dont know how people are ignoring this and arguing it. I never said full of booze, I said Irish men generally need drink to approach a woman.

    Like I said before, perhaps a younger bloke does. However, once they get past the nervous teens/early twenties stage, the amount that need a drink to approach somebody lessens a great deal. From your own personal experience you see lots of it, that's fair enough. From my own personal experience, that has not been the case (outside of the student phase) as the vast amount of unions I have witnessed have had little to do with pub/club culture.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Charizard


    Olishi4 wrote: »
    Ok so that's where I'm lost in this because I know loads of people that met through work, where they live or grew up, hobbies, through friends, meeting groups, travel etc. We have online dating. People also meet in pubs/clubs/parties.

    So what are we in Ireland lacking than any other country?

    We don't tend to approach people on the street for dates. Is that what we are talking about, that we should do this more?
    No we should do everything you mentioned at the start more. The drinking part takes up for me to much. Have you lived abroad, you will see Irish people regularly only hang out with Irish people purely because we have only one way of socializing in majority.

    Lets put it this way, do you disagree that most peoples only way of socializing in Ireland is through the bar scene. Do you think it happens more lets say through hobbies than going out for a drink. How much people have lets say asked you to go for a "Surf/Something you do" compared to hey lets go for a drink


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Charizard


    Theres a world of difference between saying a lot of people will have a drink on a date, and that they need a drink on a date.
    Where did I say anything about this. The other poster brought up date. I have mentioned hooking up for the first time with someone generally drink is taken.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Charizard


    mzungu wrote: »
    Like I said before, perhaps a younger bloke does. However, once they get past the nervous teens/early twenties stage, the amount that need a drink to approach somebody lessens a great deal. From your own personal experience you see lots of it, that's fair enough. From my own personal experience, that has not been the case (outside of the student phase) as the vast amount of unions I have witnessed have had little to do with pub/club culture.
    Oh I agree with you, as a man ages they definitely are more capable of talking to a woman without drink. It still doesnt take away that they still had that time, generally 18-35ish(obviously less for some, more for others)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭Olishi4


    Charizard wrote: »
    Lets put it this way, do you disagree that most peoples only way of socializing in Ireland is through the bar scene. Do you think it happens more lets say through hobbies than going out for a drink. How much people have lets say asked you to go for a "Surf/Something you do" compared to hey lets go for a drink

    I would say that lots of people like to go for a drink to socialise, get dressed up, go dancing, hear bands, meet friends, make new friends, romantic possibilities etc but also have other hobbies.

    Meeting someone in a pub happens often because it is an intimate and relaxed setting where you are more likely to talk and engage in personal conversation. Yes people go out and have ONS but they are just going in the moment. They also get numbers from people and arrange to meet again for a date or whatever.

    It can often be a place where people meet initially and then arrange their surf or whatever they want. If you were involved in a surf club then you could just as easily meet and have chemistry with someone you meet there or if you were seeing someone, they could take an interest in something you are passionate about.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,309 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    Charizard wrote: »
    Oh I agree with you, as a man ages they definitely are more capable of talking to a woman without drink. It still doesnt take away that they still had that time, generally 18-35ish(obviously less for some, more for others)

    In my own experience, a lot less than 35, mostly 25 at a push!:D

    Although I agree with your above points a few posts ago, things would be better if young people had a wider range of social outlets available to them. IMO, the pub is a woeful outlet, no matter what the age.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭Olishi4


    mzungu wrote: »
    In my own experience, a lot less than 35, mostly 25 at a push!:D

    Although I agree with your above points a few posts ago, things would be better if young people had a wider range of social outlets available to them. IMO, the pub is a woeful outlet, no matter what the age.

    But just because they go to the pub doesn't mean that they don't do other things?

    The pub is popular because it's one of the more neutral outlets where everyone attending doesn't have to share a specific interest other than chat. That's why a lot of people celebrate big birthday parties or meet groups of friends etc in them so they are not isolating certain friends who don't share their specific interests.

    A lot of couples don't share the exact same interests so as likely as it is that you would meet someone for example at the surf club, it also just as likely you could meet someone in a more neutral outlet like a pub (well maybe not you mzungu since you hate them so much :) ) who doesn't like surfing like you do but you still have a lot in common with.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,157 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    I think it is starting to change though. There are a lot more social outlets now compared to when I was 20. The internet has changed things. There are more clubs and gyms now. I remember a time when pubs and clubs were pretty much the only outlet, and if you didn't frequent them you were as dry as an African footpath. Thankfully attitudes are starting to change. It's probably an age thing too though. There's more peer pressure to binge drink when you're young.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Charizard


    Olishi4 wrote: »
    I would say that lots of people like to go for a drink to socialise, get dressed up, go dancing, hear bands, meet friends, make new friends, romantic possibilities etc but also have other hobbies.

    Meeting someone in a pub happens often because it is an intimate and relaxed setting where you are more likely to talk and engage in personal conversation. Yes people go out and have ONS but they are just going in the moment. They also get numbers from people and arrange to meet again for a date or whatever.

    It can often be a place where people meet initially and then arrange their surf or whatever they want. If you were involved in a surf club then you could just as easily meet and have chemistry with someone you meet there or if you were seeing someone, they could take an interest in something you are passionate about.
    Im not arguing with anything youve saying, my original point is most men need to have a drink before they will talk to a woman or hook up with her.
    Im not sure what point your making, its unrelated to anything Ive said :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Charizard


    I think it is starting to change though. There are a lot more social outlets now compared to when I was 20. The internet has changed things. There are more clubs and gyms now. I remember a time when pubs and clubs were pretty much the only outlet, and if you didn't frequent them you were as dry as an African footpath. Thankfully attitudes are starting to change. It's probably an age thing too though. There's more peer pressure to binge drink when you're young.
    I honestly think its the best thing happening in Ireland that this attitude towards non-drinkers is changing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭Olishi4


    Charizard wrote: »
    Im not arguing with anything youve saying, my original point is most men need to have a drink before they will talk to a woman or hook up with her.
    Im not sure what point your making, its unrelated to anything Ive said :confused:

    And I am explaining to you other reasons why people meet and enjoy a pub setting. Every single bloke that goes to a pub and chats a girl up isn't someone who is afraid to talk to women.

    We'l just leave it at that Charizard because I don't think you get my style of posting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,157 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    Charizard wrote: »
    I honestly think its the best thing happening in Ireland that this attitude towards non-drinkers is changing

    There's definitely less stigma now alright. I suppose there are plenty of things to do now which make a person more interesting. A person used to be considered boring if they didn't drink. Some people still have that attitude but its not as bad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭eeguy


    Charizard wrote: »
    Im not arguing with anything youve saying, my original point is most men need to have a drink before they will talk to a woman or hook up with her.
    Im not sure what point your making, its unrelated to anything Ive said :confused:

    Not really.

    Just that a pub is a great place to meet people and a great place for a first date.

    Nice cozy surroundings, decent music and a quiet pint.

    You're not stuck there like you would be for a formal meal or anot activity, so you can leave at any time depending on how the date goes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Charizard


    Olishi4 wrote: »
    And I am explaining to you other reasons why people meet and enjoy a pub setting. Every single bloke that goes to a pub and chats a girl up isn't someone who is afraid to talk to women.

    We'l just leave it at that Charizard because I don't think you get my style of posting.
    Yup, I think neither of us are reading each other true


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Charizard


    There's definitely less stigma now alright. I suppose there are plenty of things to do now which make a person more interesting. A person used to be considered boring if they didn't drink. Some people still have that attitude but its not as bad.
    I find in rural Ireland its more of a issue now days, but even there its going


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Charizard


    eeguy wrote: »
    Not really.

    Just that a pub is a great place to meet people and a great place for a first date.

    Nice cozy surroundings, decent music and a quiet pint.

    You're not stuck there like you would be for a formal meal or anot activity, so you can leave at any time depending on how the date goes.
    Honestly I disagree with what your saying here, a first date in a bar is as basic as it comes nothing great about it. Safe is the word you are using and its the mentality that I for one am delighted is leaving these isles


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  • Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Charizard wrote: »
    I honestly think its the best thing happening in Ireland that this attitude towards non-drinkers is changing



    Not sure what part of Ireland you grew up in ? Maybe you had negative experiences that have coloured your view of Irish experiences on dates ??
    What you describe sounds like something from 20 years ago .

    Neither of my daughters met their boyfriends in pubs - both of them through sports and college . Both are sports mad and so are their friends .

    I don't know when I last met someone for a date in a pub and I go on a lot of dates . Usually it's coffee ! In fact I wouldn't like meeting for a drink as it kinda clouds the real person and could mean someone needs drink to be sociable ? So I prefer a dry first date and to check out someone from a sober point of view!!

    Very few people I meet need drink these days to hold a conversation - in fact I meet more and more non drinkers as time goes on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭eeguy


    Charizard wrote: »
    Honestly I disagree with what your saying here, a first date in a bar is as basic as it comes nothing great about it. Safe is the word you are using and its the mentality that I for one am delighted is leaving these isles

    Where would you suggest for a first date?

    One where you can get a proper chat with someone in relaxed settings late in the evening that's not weather dependent.


  • Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Charizard wrote: »
    Honestly I disagree with what your saying here, a first date in a bar is as basic as it comes nothing great about it. Safe is the word you are using and its the mentality that I for one am delighted is leaving these isles

    be careful what you wish for - both my daughters work and live abroad - Vancouver and London (before that Dubai) and while there are huge advantages and great lifestyles both of them miss the very thing you are slagging off! My daughter in London has had guys bring her on dates to the beach, on picnics, boats on lakes, the London Eye, exclusive rooftop bars in London - it still doesn't mean you have met the right person. And its almost harder to say you don't want to see the person again when they have planned a first date like that :eek::eek:

    The chat, the feeling of closeness and companionship you get in Ireland in a pub, the fact that Irish people "get" the sense of humour we all have, the way of saying something half in jest, half serious! One of the things they notice a lot is that people in the countries they have lived and travelled in take everything they say literally - they don't "get" the unique Irish sense of humour and wit. And believe me its not all about drink!

    Your statements are so sweeping Charizard. Nothing in the world in black and white, there are pros and cons to everything. People are entitled to an opinion based on their experiences - it doesn't mean they are wrong. I have had to learn that myself over the years. From being very critical and being on the high moral ground a lot, I have had to learn (sometimes from my kids, sometimes from travelling a lot myself) - that nothing is written in stone. Give people a chance - if not you will learn in time anyway. Life has a way of doing that to you :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,157 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    Whenever this topic comes up it always reminds me of this clip from The Savage Eye. It's a bit exaggerated but I think there's definitely some truth to it.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 890 ✭✭✭audi12


    eeguy wrote: »
    Not really.

    Just that a pub is a great place to meet people and a great place for a first date.

    Nice cozy surroundings, decent music and a quiet pint.

    You're not stuck there like you would be for a formal meal or anot activity, so you can leave at any time depending on how the date goes.

    It is hard to meet anyone these days or maybe thats just me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Charizard


    Not sure what part of Ireland you grew up in ? Maybe you had negative experiences that have coloured your view of Irish experiences on dates ??
    What you describe sounds like something from 20 years ago .

    Neither of my daughters met their boyfriends in pubs - both of them through sports and college . Both are sports mad and so are their friends .

    I don't know when I last met someone for a date in a pub and I go on a lot of dates . Usually it's coffee ! In fact I wouldn't like meeting for a drink as it kinda clouds the real person and could mean someone needs drink to be sociable ? So I prefer a dry first date and to check out someone from a sober point of view!!

    Very few people I meet need drink these days to hold a conversation - in fact I meet more and more non drinkers as time goes on.
    I grew up in the west but I have lived all over Ireland and been among Irish people abroad. It always revolves around drink. Like I said its changing which is a good thing, its good to hear your daughters met lads elsewhere. I think you will find what happens in Dublin is generally a few years ahead, then moves to minor cities Galway/Cork/etc
    You seem to be of the age where I said men dont need drink as much to talk to women, my aul lad for example would be far more capable of talking to a stunning woman than my 17 year old nephew whos cocky as hell but still stumbles when its a pretty girleen


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Charizard


    eeguy wrote: »
    Where would you suggest for a first date?

    One where you can get a proper chat with someone in relaxed settings late in the evening that's not weather dependent.
    Coffee shop has been mentioned by the previous poster for one. I dunno bowling is pretty relaxed and fun would be something Id do and you dont need good weather for it. Those two cover pretty much every age demo-graph and Im sure there is hundreds more


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Charizard


    be careful what you wish for - both my daughters work and live abroad - Vancouver and London (before that Dubai) and while there are huge advantages and great lifestyles both of them miss the very thing you are slagging off! My daughter in London has had guys bring her on dates to the beach, on picnics, boats on lakes, the London Eye, exclusive rooftop bars in London - it still doesn't mean you have met the right person. And its almost harder to say you don't want to see the person again when they have planned a first date like that :eek::eek:

    The chat, the feeling of closeness and companionship you get in Ireland in a pub, the fact that Irish people "get" the sense of humour we all have, the way of saying something half in jest, half serious! One of the things they notice a lot is that people in the countries they have lived and travelled in take everything they say literally - they don't "get" the unique Irish sense of humour and wit. And believe me its not all about drink!

    Your statements are so sweeping Charizard. Nothing in the world in black and white, there are pros and cons to everything. People are entitled to an opinion based on their experiences - it doesn't mean they are wrong. I have had to learn that myself over the years. From being very critical and being on the high moral ground a lot, I have had to learn (sometimes from my kids, sometimes from travelling a lot myself) - that nothing is written in stone. Give people a chance - if not you will learn in time anyway. Life has a way of doing that to you :cool:
    You see thats all very cliche, its like saying I only like Irish girls cause of the craic. Which Ive actually heard on my travels. Where is that giving people a chance for example. Your statements are quiet sweeping aswell, read back on your comment and you will see this
    The part bolded for me is one of the most un true statements that Irish reel out, its akin to saying Germans are boring.
    I honestly believe this is a very patronizing thing to say, Im all for giving people a chance, I just think your view is maybe from a generation before me. I have travelled, id presume more than 99% of the people in Ireland, I feel I can judge a person better than rolling out lines like "people dont get Irish sense of humour" my wife is Argentine, she gets my sense of humour as well as my fathers, brothers, friends.


  • Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Charizard wrote: »
    You see thats all very cliche, its like saying I only like Irish girls cause of the craic. Which Ive actually heard on my travels. Where is that giving people a chance for example. Your statements are quiet sweeping aswell, read back on your comment and you will see this
    The part bolded for me is one of the most un true statements that Irish reel out, its akin to saying Germans are boring.
    I honestly believe this is a very patronizing thing to say, Im all for giving people a chance, I just think your view is maybe from a generation before me. I have travelled, id presume more than 99% of the people in Ireland, I feel I can judge a person better than rolling out lines like "people dont get Irish sense of humour" my wife is Argentine, she gets my sense of humour as well as my fathers, brothers, friends.

    Good for you ! Lots of us Irish travel these days. I have lived in New Zealand for 4 years and Vancouver for 2 - and will probably go back to Vancouver eventually if my kids settle there. Both my kids say other nationalities don't get the Irish sense of humour in the way we do. That's not a criticism - it's called an observation! Neither of them socialise in Irish pubs. They both have non Irish boyfriends.

    I was in London last week and was socialising with a group of friends (ages 24-49 ) and the noticeable thing was the British take a lot of stuff seriously when the Irish in the group were saying stuff tongue in cheek, a wink and a look in the eye that Brits don't always get. It's actually very funny when it happens. :D Canadians are similar - they take things literally ;)

    Pretty sweeping statements to say YOU have travelled more than 99% of Irish people? I would say a lot of people would beg to differ - the vast majority of 20-30 year olds have lived or worked abroad at this stage .... Many travelling through and working in many countries along the way. My kids between them have worked in Dubai, Singapore, UK, France, Italy, NZ, Australia, Canada.

    90% of their friends from college are abroad. Kinda sad for my "generation" as you put it ...3 kids before the age of 26 so believe me I am having plenty of fun now that they are grown and gone and job well done !

    As you like the last work on most topics Charizard I will leave the floor open to you .....and wish you well in in your travels ! :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,157 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    From my experience its people from non English speaking countries that don't get our sense of humor. England is very similar to here. The U.S and Canada is a bit different alright but they're good craic too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭eeguy


    Charizard wrote: »
    Coffee shop has been mentioned by the previous poster for one. I dunno bowling is pretty relaxed and fun would be something Id do and you dont need good weather for it. Those two cover pretty much every age demo-graph and Im sure there is hundreds more

    Few enough coffee shops open at 8 in the evening.

    Bowling is a definite no no. First of all, you don't know if she likes bowling, second every woman I know hates the shoes. :rolleyes: third, few enough bowling alleys around that open late, especially on weekdays.
    Fourth, both of you almost definitely have to travel, so you can't walk her home or stay out too late.

    All things that a pub solves.

    Bowling is grand for a second or third date once you've felt each other out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,157 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    eeguy wrote: »
    Fourth, both of you almost definitely have to travel, so you can't walk her home or stay out too late.

    That could just as easily be the case in a pub if you're going on a first date with someone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Charizard


    eeguy wrote: »
    Few enough coffee shops open at 8 in the evening.

    Bowling is a definite no no. First of all, you don't know if she likes bowling, second every woman I know hates the shoes. :rolleyes: third, few enough bowling alleys around that open late, especially on weekdays.
    Fourth, both of you almost definitely have to travel, so you can't walk her home or stay out too late.

    All things that a pub solves.

    Bowling is grand for a second or third date once you've felt each other out.
    You see, no matter what I said you would have this reply :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Charizard


    Good for you ! Lots of us Irish travel these days. I have lived in New Zealand for 4 years and Vancouver for 2 - and will probably go back to Vancouver eventually if my kids settle there. Both my kids say other nationalities don't get the Irish sense of humour in the way we do. That's not a criticism - it's called an observation! Neither of them socialise in Irish pubs. They both have non Irish boyfriends.

    I was in London last week and was socialising with a group of friends (ages 24-49 ) and the noticeable thing was the British take a lot of stuff seriously when the Irish in the group were saying stuff tongue in cheek, a wink and a look in the eye that Brits don't always get. It's actually very funny when it happens. :D Canadians are similar - they take things literally ;)

    Pretty sweeping statements to say YOU have travelled more than 99% of Irish people? I would say a lot of people would beg to differ - the vast majority of 20-30 year olds have lived or worked abroad at this stage .... Many travelling through and working in many countries along the way. My kids between them have worked in Dubai, Singapore, UK, France, Italy, NZ, Australia, Canada.

    90% of their friends from college are abroad. Kinda sad for my "generation" as you put it ...3 kids before the age of 26 so believe me I am having plenty of fun now that they are grown and gone and job well done !

    As you like the last work on most topics Charizard I will leave the floor open to you .....and wish you well in in your travels ! :-)
    First of all, your daughters are with Non Irish boyfriends, how on earth are they relevant to Irish men needing drink to talk to women :confused:
    Then you say more sweeping statements, brits canadians dont get things

    Fair play theve travelled to these places. I how ever have been more and just so you know Im not using this as a basis that Im more worldy or know anything more than anyone just that Im pretty certain Ive lived more places than most.

    Anyways I will leave it there as you arent really relevant to anything Ive been saying


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Peist2007


    Coffee shops give me a pain in the face.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Peist2007


    Charizard wrote: »

    Anyways I will leave it there as you arent really relevant to anything Ive been saying

    :pac:

    In fairness, a bunch of really nice people have tried to be patient with you and explain that your statements have been too sweeping and that life is full of little grey areas in which everyone is not necessarily homogeneous.
    Yet you refuse to listen and keep retorting to some very good posts with the same wrong-headed opinion.

    Everyone on this thread should leave it there because you have no interest in debating. And despite you saying to the contrary, you really are not exhibiting any semblance of the open mind you say you have.

    If you keep having to say "Ah you just dont get what i am saying..." - unless you are Hawking explaining Quantum Physics or a NASA scientist talking about nuclear fusion in space, then it's you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭eeguy


    Charizard wrote: »
    You see, no matter what I said you would have this reply :rolleyes:

    I'm as interested as the next guy in finding great places for dates.

    If you had a good suggestion I would have applauded it. But you didn't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Charizard


    Peist2007 wrote: »
    :pac:

    In fairness, a bunch of really nice people have tried to be patient with you and explain that your statements have been too sweeping and that life is full of little grey areas in which everyone is not necessarily homogeneous.
    Yet you refuse to listen and keep retorting to some very good posts with the same wrong-headed opinion.

    Everyone on this thread should leave it there because you have no interest in debating. And despite you saying to the contrary, you really are not exhibiting any semblance of the open mind you say you have.

    If you keep having to say "Ah you just dont get what i am saying..." - unless you are Hawking explaining Quantum Physics or a NASA scientist talking about nuclear fusion in space, then it's you.
    Have you ever heard of the sheep mentality, for me that explains a lot of what goes on in here, just because the mass say one thing doesnt make it a reality, have a look through history if you dont understand me, its not physics its just basic logic.
    For me there hasnt been much good posts one or two, the rest was just drivel, anyways carry on thinking what you think and I will continue to wonder how people are honestly so blind to this.
    Or in words you might understand, sure us Irish are great craic, sure its all for the craic, nah Im only going out for a few, one for the road,shot of courage etc etc etc


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,174 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Charizard you're like a dog with a bone. You just won't let things go and seem to take offence at someone else having an opinion that doesn't square with yours. And then suggest they're "sheep" and are writing "drivel".

    TL;DR? Do not post in this thread again. Thank you.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,567 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    I was talking to a woman at a conference recently. We had to work together on a project and spoke a bit during the tea break too. She was lovely, bright, genuine, warm... It was just one professional talking to another. She was about to move jobs, so I doubt I'll bump into her again. Did I mention she was lovely?


  • Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭Skyfarm


    I was talking to a woman at a conference recently. We had to work together on a project and spoke a bit during the tea break too. She was lovely, bright, genuine, warm... It was just one professional talking to another. She was about to move jobs, so I doubt I'll bump into her again. Did I mention she was lovely?

    I'm sure there is an ism for what you describe.








    found it,its called lovelyism:D


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