How long will Suarez's ban be? Mod warning in OP and post#455

Headshot

Headshot wrote: »

I wonder will Pool wake up and finally sell him. A very very flawed genius

I'd rather keep our flawed genius than have no genius at all.

Mostly Utd fans telling me we should sell him funny enough. I'd imagine if it was Aspas it would be a different story ☺

super_furry

3 matches

Court of Arbitration for Sport it is so.

JP Liz V1

I thought it would be longer than 4 months

jonnyfingers

Over 10 matches

Iang87 wrote: »

Honest to christ I cant see why liverpool are being punished worse than uruguay

I think we should get away from thinking it's the club or the country that are being punished. It's Suarez that is being punished, he just happens to play for both Liverpool and Uruguay, and he'll just happen to have more club games during the ban duration.

Regarding any appeal, the only person that should have the right to appeal is Suarez. It's tough on both club and country but that is Suarez's fault. Any reduction in the ban that benefits Liverpool or Uruguay will also benefit Suarez and that can't be fair.

Benzino

Ravenid wrote: »

4 Months Worldwide......I can see Liverpool successfully appealing that as they had no hand in this, and even if they don't not available until October/November not really gonna hurt em that much now is it?

Err, yeah it will hurt us (if it's kept), he'll miss 9 PL games and something like 3 CL games.

Don't want to go down the "if" road, but if Suarez wasn't banned for the start of last season, we may have won the league.

Pro. F

Pro. F wrote: »

So much for FIFA can't ban him from playing for his club eh

Did anyone actually know that for certain. We were all speculatiing

Pro. F

5 matches

Agueroooo wrote: »

Liverpool cant appeal.

only Uruguay Fed can.

Oliver Kay ‏@OliverKayTimes 2m
Fifa making up rules as they go along, but to judge by what they've just told me, only #URU (not #LFC) would be allowed to appeal Suarez ban

It wouldn't surprise me at all if FIFA think that and are completely wrong about it. That would presumably mean that LFC would have to take FIFA to the court of arbitration for sport and by that stage (considering the amount of time passing) would be suing for damages rather than looking to get the ban lifted.

Utopia Parkway

1 match

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

I expected him to get a worldwide ban and he got it. FIFA for once send out the right message.

If only clubs with mass racist chanting got the same. They usually get a 20K fine.

jester77

Can't see Liverpool appealing it. Appealing it would be seen as condoning it, and that is not an image they would want to associated with.

Can they sell him, or does the ban also prevent that?

Cypher_sounds

Does he not have to get the teeth pulled?

keano_afc

1 match

Monetary fine is less than Bendtner got for his Paddy Power pants.

Iang87

12 month global ban

Iang87 wrote: »

Honest to christ I cant see why liverpool are being punished worse than uruguay

Your not being punished and there's nobody laughing at Liverpool.

The point is he's not fit to be on the pitch in his current state of mind. Until he gets his **** sorted he got what he deserved and gives Liverpool adequate time for his counselling and re-assessment after the four months.

Headshot

rarnes1 wrote: »

I'd rather keep our flawed genius than have no genius at all.

Mostly Utd fans telling me we should sell him funny enough. I'd imagine if it was Aspas it would be a different story ☺

Not really, I would be the same for any player. Iv lost count how many times he has hurt your club now.

Pro. F

5 matches

rarnes1 wrote: »

Did anyone actually know that for certain. We were all speculatiing

No, but people were saying it, just like people were saying that he will be banned for two years.

Bannerman7

Nerdlingr wrote: »

Bit harsh on Liverpool considering this incident had nothing to do with them. They should have banned him for longer internationally.

Yeah & if Liverpool say anything to him when he comes back he'll eat them.

Fizman

brevity wrote: »

Yikes.

He can't even play FIFA on his PlayStation?

FIFA have probably blocked his IP address anyway.

Billy86

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Quoting myself i know but apparently not

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=91010571&postcount=556

Wouldn't be the first time, they basically did the same when Rio Ferdinand got banned. Threatened to expel Man Utd from European football for a few years if they went to the court of arbitration, if I recall.

jem

in june now so back 26 oct? after the transfer deadline.
harsh to say the least, particularly on liverpool.
they will have to look at the costa headbutt now etc, sure the legal eagles will push why one and not the other on appeal.

paddyh117

Fizman wrote: »

He can't even play FIFA on his PlayStation?

FIFA have probably blocked his IP address anyway.

He can play PES though.

Pro. F

5 matches

Headshot wrote: »

Not really, I would be the same for any player. Iv lost count how many times he has hurt your club now.

Sure aren't you always saying that you want Rooney sold, even when he's having a great season? IIrc any way. So you're being consistent.

Agueroooo

a precedent has been set but it might just open up a big can of worms.

clubs are reluctant enough to release players for useless friendlies etc. and this aint gonna help one bit.

rarnes1

12 month global ban

rarnes1 wrote: »

I'd rather keep our flawed genius than have no genius at all.

Mostly Utd fans telling me we should sell him funny enough. I'd imagine if it was Aspas it would be a different story ☺

So your proud for a player acting the way he does to wear the Liverpool jersey regardless?

niallo27

1 match

Pro. F wrote: »

They're being punished is just a consequence of Suarez being punished. LFC are paying the price for buying and keeping a player with serious disciplinary issues.

His non injury record and the goals he scores make up for it ten fold though.

Headshot

Pro. F wrote: »

Sure aren't you always saying that you want Rooney sold, even when he's having a great season? IIrc any way. So you're being consistent.

Yap. If a player takes a mick out of your club, they go. Fergie always said no player is bigger than the club

eyescreamcone

2 matches

Totally unfair on Liverpool.
When he was banned previously, did this include international games?? No!

Over the top sentence for me!

DARK-KNIGHT

he is wreckless and dangerous on the pitch ban should be harsh and at all levels. fifa have a responsibility to players playing against suarez for club and country to protect them. biting is serious assault he deserves exactly what he gets imo. a disgusting act to bite someone

Hyzepher

7 matches

niallo27 wrote: »

His non injury record and the goals he scores make up for it ten fold though.

That nasty bump he got on the teeth might take a while to heal..

Apparently FIFA aren't sure about whether it prevents transfers. I assume a case in Europe would be taken if they prevented him leaving the club.

Agueroooo

M!Ck^ wrote: »

So your proud for a player acting the way he does to wear the Liverpool jersey regardless?

put down the spoon Mick..we both know thats not what he meant

niallo27

1 match

The rest will do him good anyway. He looks ****ed. He will come back better than ever and we all move on.

tayto lover

He will miss the first 9 EPL games of the season.

Cypher_sounds

First racist dog i've ever come across. Very light ban all things considered.

Skid X

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Liverpool aren't stupid enough to get embroiled in this after the last debacle. Think both parties will count themselves slightly lucky he'll be back in November

I agree. It could have been a lot worse and Liverpool would be crazy to try to appeal the judgement.

niallo27

1 match

Hyzepher wrote: »

That nasty bump he got on the teeth might take a while to heal..

Not more than 4 months hopefully.

SlickRic

1. FIFA are making it up as they go along.
2. It's a lengthy ban because biting is taboo - nothing more, nothing less. If a guy who has a penchant for an elbow did this, you would not see this length of ban.
3. It's harsh on Liverpool.
4. While it's harsh, Liverpool should be angry at Suarez first, FIFA second. He's put them in this position...again.
5. I'm genuinely intrigued as to what the club will do now - 1st November is a long time to wait.

eyescreamcone

2 matches

M!Ck^ wrote: »

So your proud for a player acting the way he does to wear the Liverpool jersey regardless?

Utd fans still cheer Cantona today after he kicked the fan

Also, Keane is still a hero after intentionally injuring Haaland.

Of the 3 which is the worst?

Nerdlingr

Mutu got 7 months for doing a bit of recreational cocaine.
Suarez gets 4 for biting someone on the field of play for the third time.

Rayne Wooney

It would be funny if they appealed and he got a longer ban, he's maintained his innocence in this which is the worst thing IMO

ronjo

How many games will this be that he has missed for Liverpool without ever receiving a red card???

niallo27

1 match

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

he is wreckless and dangerous on the pitch ban should be harsh and at all levels. fifa have a responsibility to players playing against suarez for club and country to protect them. biting is serious assault he deserves exactly what he gets imo. a disgusting act to bite someone

Is he dangerous. Has he ever injured a player seriously.

tayto lover

Will he have to wear a muzzle when he comes back?

Agueroooo

FIFA cannot restrict transfers as that is in breach of European employment law

Turtwig

niallo27 wrote: »

Is he dangerous. Has he ever injured a player seriously.

He tried to bite someone. Thankfully he screwed up the execution. Honestly, this downplaying of human bites is rather ignorant. Bites can be very fcking serious.

Agueroooo

12 month global ban

Agueroooo wrote: »

put down the spoon Mick..we both know thats not what he meant

I'm sorry but not sure what other way to read it. He would rather keep him regardless @ Liverpool FC as a flawed Genius. That's what I took from the post.

No player should be bigger than the Club, especially a club with a history like Liverpool.

Liverpool now have a choice to either sell him off or use the months provided by FIFA to help him get his head straight but there is no guarantee that will happen with his past.

Fair play for Rodgers initially standing by him because of his talent but enough is enough at this stage he's damaged goods.

Rayne Wooney

niallo27 wrote: »

Is he dangerous. Has he ever injured a player seriously.

Racism causes psychological injury so yes

mayordenis

Appealing it 100% does not mean condoning it, it is possible to think what he did was completely wrong but that there should be some limit on how far the ban goes.

SantryRed

6 matches

Agueroooo wrote: »

FIFA cannot restrict transfers as that is in breach of European employment law

This gets brought up a lot. They can't restrict transfers but they can refuse to register him. Which in effect, is the same thing.

efb

5 matches

@UberFootFact: Luis Suarez has now been banned for 34 games since 2010, despite not receiving a single red card.

DARK-KNIGHT

niallo27 wrote: »

Is he dangerous. Has he ever injured a player seriously.

he has been very lucky imo. looking at the extreme and him biting and puncturing a major vein in shoulder or neck area.... it is vey dangerous...

WallyGUFC

niallo27 wrote: »

Is he dangerous. Has he ever injured a player seriously.

Biting somebody is dangerous. Risk of awful infections etc.

TBH I'm surprised he's been banned domestically too. I thought it might just have been a 2 year international ban. He's being made an example of and he deserves it. He's done it 3 times and had the nerve to deny it after the match on Tuesday. Liverpool knew what they were getting themselves in for - he had previously bitten an opponent before signing him. It will be interesting to see what they do now. Will there be any club even in for him after this?

He has severe mental issues clearly. I wonder is 4 months away from the game enough to sort them out?