Germany vs Algeria 9pm / Mon 30th

YFlyer

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

For the Algerian players who are observing Ramadan, I'm amazed at the performance they just put in. But I fear it might become really significant in extra time.

Its dark now so they can take in fluids.

Nuri Sahin

tayto lover wrote: »

Ha ha. I wonder how he keeps his place in the team then.
Maybe some of you should be managing Germany :pac:
He rarely gives the ball away.

Or maybe you simply cannot judge Ozil without a drop of bias since his move to Arsenal.

efb

Deutschland, Deutschland über alles

AllGunsBlazing

Tit.

Ulysses Gaze

Bad decision making by Ozil. Should have taken a shot.

Lucifer MorningStar

Just saw the replay of the goal there and it was classy finish tbf

btw does anyone else think the Algeria coach looks a bit like Richard Dawkins ?

Adamocovic

Schurle must have been watching highlights of O'Shea's goal against Copenhagen, O'Shea did it a lot more eloquently :P

GavRedKing

Schurrle should be starting in place of Ozil, Kroos or Goetze at this stage.

He wont but he should.

Corholio

tayto lover wrote: »

Ha ha. I wonder how he keeps his place in the team then.
Maybe some of you should be managing Germany :pac:
He rarely gives the ball away.

Whats his place in the team got to do with anything!? Rarely giving the ball away is fine for defensive midfielder, he's created very little for his position. Whats this childish 'should be managing Germany' nonsense too?

murpho999

I don't get why Ozil is rated so highly.

Will I Amnt

Halliche is a warrior, off he goes with the big Bin Laden head on him.

efb

wonga77 wrote: »

Typical, backed the germans to win after 60 mins and they waste chance after chance, 1 minute into et they decide to score

same

tayto lover

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Or maybe you simply cannot judge Ozil without a drop of bias since his move to Arsenal.

On the contrary I judge by every performance.
He has been very good tonight.
I think the bias is elsewhere.

Will I Amnt

murpho999 wrote: »

I don't get why Ozil is rated so highly.

Class player, just hasn't been himself since around Christmas.

Son Of A Vidic

TimeToShine wrote: »

They aren't fasting because they travelled so far from home. There's a certain distance away from your home that you're exempt. No way they could have put in that kind of performance fasted.

Not correct, the Algerian manager did not deny in his press conference, that some players were observing the fast. But he refused to name which players. He then told the media to move on from the topic as it was a non-issue.

Algeria coach Vahid Halilhodzic refused to divulge which of his Muslim players are observing Ramadan ahead of Monday's World Cup last-16 meeting with Germany.

The 30-day dawn-to-dusk fast began on Sunday and Halilhodzic, 61, bristled at a routine question about the subject in his pre-match news conference.

"This is a private matter and when you ask this you lack respect and ethics," said the Bosnian.

"The players will do as they wish and I would like to stop this controversy."

http://www.mbc.mw/index.php/sports2/item/2536-algeria-coach-angry-at-ramadan-focus

dolliemix

I want algeria to win because they're showing such spirit ....... But .......i think muller is going to score.

Corholio

tayto lover wrote: »

On the contrary I judge by every performance.
He has been very good tonight.
I think the bias is elsewhere.

Do you know what the word 'bias' means?

I see very little connection with the many on here and lots elsewhere who have said he's had an ineffective game.

SantryRed

tayto lover wrote: »

On the contrary I judge by every performance.
He has been very good tonight.
I think the bias is elsewhere.

He has not been very good tonight. I can't believe you've watched this game without bias and think he has been very good. He has been average at best. He's barely offered anything going forward.

Biddy_61

should have scored.

Ishmael

Hahah, He Mustafa paniced!!

Say Your Number

Great chance

newballsplease

Paully D wrote: »

Boo!

Though Germany vs France is a much more appealing quarter final than Algeria vs France, admittedly.

Algeria v France would have been on the anniversary of the date they celebrate independence from France. 16 algerians born in france. The only previous match between France and Algeria was a friendly played in 2001 in Paris. Fans of the Algerian team rushed onto pitch to avoid defeat, and the game was never completed. The hype around that game would be great. Underdog story always more appealing imo.
Would prefer it myself.

eagle eye

tayto lover wrote: »

On the contrary I judge by every performance.
He has been very good tonight.
I think the bias is elsewhere.

I don't know how you see a good performance from him tonight. I'm not biased in any way, I actually love watching him play most of the time. He has been poor tonight though, no doubt about doubt imo.

AllGunsBlazing

They just don't have a goal in them.

tayto lover

SantryRed wrote: »

He has not been very good tonight. I can't believe you've watched this game without bias and think he has been very good. He has been average at best. He's barely offered anything going forward.

He rarely puts a pass astray and has supplied plenty of them tonight.

UnitedIrishman

Peter Collins is on a mission to say Porto Alegre more times than ever said before over the course of a game.

TimeToShine

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Not correct, the Algerian manager did not deny in his press conference, that some players were observing the fast. But he refused to name which players. He then told the media to move on from the topic as it was a non-issue.


http://www.mbc.mw/index.php/sports2/item/2536-algeria-coach-angry-at-ramadan-focus

I work with someone from Algeria and he said that the head sheikh in the country exempted them all on those grounds, don't know how valid that is.

MayoSalmon

newballsplease wrote: »

Algeria v France would have been on the anniversary of the date they celebrate independence from France. 16 algerians born in france. The only previous match between France and Algeria was a friendly played in 2001 in Paris. Fans of the Algerian team rushed onto pitch to avoid defeat, and the game was never completed. The hype around that game would be great. Underdog story always more appealing imo.
Would prefer it myself.

Agreed plus the German deserve nothing after the way the behaved in 1982

Slicemeister

Oezil wins a corner!

Nuri Sahin

tayto lover wrote: »

On the contrary I judge by every performance.
He has been very good tonight.
I think the bias is elsewhere.

German natives and media are all biased as in being anti-Ozil? Honigstein loves Ozil and yet...



It seems Arsenal fans here are the only one's defending his performance, even going well beyond overhyping his performance.

murpho999

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Class player, just hasn't been himself since around Christmas.

6 months of not being yourself= not very good in my book.

Tigerandahalf

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Not correct, the Algerian manager did not deny in his press conference, that some players were observing the fast. But he refused to name which players. He then told the media to move on from the topic as it was a non-issue.


http://www.mbc.mw/index.php/sports2/item/2536-algeria-coach-angry-at-ramadan-focus

Interesting as Peter Collins mentioned there how the manager had made 5 changes compared to their last game. Maybe resting guys to aid them.

efb

MayoSalmon wrote: »

Agreed plus the German deserve nothing after the way the behaved in 1982

get over it! 32 years!!!

TimeToShine

I don't think I've ever wanted a team that isn't Ireland to score more.

SantryRed

tayto lover wrote: »

He rarely puts a pass astray and has supplied plenty of them tonight.

It's not impressive when he's passing it back into the centre midfield or back to the holding midfielder. He's barely made a contribution in an attacking sense, and in his position, that just isn't good enough.

Ishmael

newballsplease wrote: »

Algeria v France would have been on the anniversary of the date they celebrate independence from France. 16 algerians born in france. The only previous match between France and Algeria was a friendly played in 2001 in Paris. Fans of the Algerian team rushed onto pitch to avoid defeat, and the game was never completed. The hype around that game would be great. Underdog story always more appealing imo.
Would prefer it myself.

Considering there were car bonfires in Paris following the Algerians qualifying for the second round. I can't imagine what would happen if Algeria were to play France....Win or Lose!

Adamocovic

I wouldn't criticise just Ozil, to be fair theres not many of the Germans out there that you can say had a great game and played to their ability.

efb

Im sure his first half stats are excellent, his second were ok.

GLaDOS

TimeToShine wrote: »

I work with someone from Algeria and he said that the head sheikh in the country exempted them all on those grounds, don't know how valid that is.

http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/other/algeria-team-given-permission-to-eat-during-ramadan-634927.html

Turtyturd

murpho999 wrote: »

I don't get why Ozil is rated so highly.

A great player but a shadow of the player from 4 years ago.

Will I Amnt

murpho999 wrote: »

6 months of not being yourself= not very good in my book.

You can't just discredit his previous years. Class is permanent and all that.

vidor

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

Peter Collins is on a mission to say Porto Alegre more times than ever said before over the course of a game.

In the 2014 FIFA World Cup...

Soups123

Adamocovic wrote: »

I wouldn't criticise just Ozil, to be fair theres not many of the Germans out there that you can say had a great game and played to their ability.

Tbh he could have a stormer it's the same posters every game he's played its tiresome at this stage

tayto lover

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

German natives and media are all biased as in being anti-Ozil? Honigstein loves Ozil and yet...



It seems Arsenal fans here are the only one's defending his performance, even going well beyond overhyping his performance.

They must all be blind Liverpool fans :pac:

Corholio

tayto lover wrote: »

They must all be blind Liverpool fans :pac:

I'd say it's not tayto's you love at all :P

murpho999

Will I Amnt wrote: »

You can't just discredit his previous years. Class is permanent and all that.

Sorry but the world cup is on now and you have to be on top of your game.

Just like Torres is not good enough anymore.

Turtyturd

SantryRed wrote: »

It's not impressive when he's passing it back into the centre midfield or back to the holding midfielder. He's barely made a contribution in an attacking sense, and in his position, that just isn't good enough.

His best contribution was a misplaced cross which nearly lobbed the keeper.

EuropeanSon

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

German natives and media are all biased as in being anti-Ozil? Honigstein loves Ozil and yet...



It seems Arsenal fans here are the only one's defending his performance, even going well beyond overhyping his performance.

Don't generalise.

He was decent in the first half, as much as any of them were. Since about 70 minutes he's been completely ineffectual.

vidor

Ozil has been disappointing all night but so have a good few of the German players.

tayto lover

Turtyturd wrote: »

His best contribution was a misplaced cross which nearly lobbed the keeper.

Like Gerrard's?