Germany vs Algeria 9pm / Mon 30th

murpho999

efb wrote: »

get over it! 32 years!!!

32 years sure that's nothing compared to what Germany did 100 & 75 years ago!

efb

Ozil to collect his second trophy this year

Turtyturd

Is Schurle wrecked already?

TimeToShine

Turtyturd wrote: »

Is Schurle wrecked already?

Schurrle not

Ulysses Gaze

efb wrote: »

Ozil to collect his second trophy this year

The Charity Shield?

Adamocovic

Can't wait for Apres Match with Brad Friedel

glued

Ozil has been crap. Suggesting otherwise is just bias. But in general this German side have been crap today.

Turtyturd

tayto lover wrote: »

Like Gerrard's?

Who's he playing for?

Will I Amnt

murpho999 wrote: »

Sorry but the world cup is on now and you have to be on top of your game.

Just like Torres is not good enough anymore.

Plenty of good players had a sh*t World Cup. Cavani and Ronaldo were absolute muck.

Tigerandahalf

Will I Amnt wrote: »

You can't just discredit his previous years. Class is permanent and all that.

Torres I guess.

efb

murpho999 wrote: »

32 years sure that's nothing compared to what Germany did 100 & 75 years ago!

Germany weren't the bad guy in WW1

CountyHurler

Peter Collins' platitudes are mind numbing... Why didnt they give Jimmy Magee one more run out... He'd get a load of names wrong, possibly get the year and the sport wrong.. But at least he would say something interesting now and again.

bitemeluis

Not sure what game some people are watching, Ozil's contribution in midfield has been excellent

AllGunsBlazing

Swapping shorts again, i see

MayoSalmon

efb wrote: »

get over it! 32 years!!!

Yeah, 32 years and justice has not been done

The judge in the Jimmy Savile case should of just said ah yeah that was ages ago get over it love!

Will I Amnt

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Torres I guess.

Far too early to say he's gone the Torres way.

Nuri Sahin

Adamocovic wrote: »

I wouldn't criticise just Ozil, to be fair theres not many of the Germans out there that you can say had a great game and played to their ability.

No one from what I can see is criticising Ozil for the sake of it. One fan base seems determined to make out he's been sensational today however, and anyone who dares say otherwise is basically clueless. All but Neuer have been dreadful for large spells of the game for me.

efb

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

The Charity Shield?

Jules Rimet

murpho999

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Plenty of good players had a sh*t World Cup. Cavani and Ronaldo were absolute muck.

Agree on Cavani....he's over rated.

Ronaldo not 100% but kept them in WC against USA.

Ozil has more issues.

Fuzzy_Dunlop

Turtyturd wrote: »

His best contribution was a misplaced cross which nearly lobbed the keeper.

He also had a great pull back from the right side of the box and a shot that was spilled by the keeper.

One of the better German players in the first half certainly, but average enough performance overall, as with the whole German team in fairness. Schurrle has been good since he came on though.

Corholio

efb wrote: »

Jules Remy

Loic's dad has a trophy?

efb

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

No one from what I can see is criticising Ozil for the sake of it. One fan base seems determined to make out he's been sensational today however, and anyone who dares say otherwise is basically clueless. All but Neuer have been dreadful for large spells of the game for me.

no-one said he was sensational but he was one of Germany's better players in the first half. He hasn't been dreadful.

tayto lover

bitemeluis wrote: »

Not sure what game some people are watching, Ozil's contribution in midfield has been excellent

I'd say many of the people criticising Ozil never kicked a ball in their lives in fairness to them.

AllGunsBlazing

efb wrote: »

Jules Remy

Brazil own that since 1970.

wonga77

This has probably been asked before but I'm too lazy to check
How does muller get away with not wearing shin pads? I thought they were compulsory

farna_boy

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Or maybe you simply cannot judge Ozil without a drop of bias since his move to Arsenal.

The thing about Ozil and this "best #10 in the world" thing is that it is about perception, or more accurately expectation. When I think of the best number 10's in the world, I tend to think of goal scorers say maybe like Zidane. While Ozil is a very creative player, he is not a number 10 that will score those goals. He is the player that will give that one pass that will open up a team and allow your striker to score. He usually won't score himself or make those runs that everyone expects because of his label of "best #10 in the world".

efb

Corholio wrote: »

Loic's dad has a trophy?

blame autocorrect

EuropeanSon

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

No one from what I can see is criticising Ozil for the sake of it. One fan base seems determined to make out he's been sensational today however, and anyone who dares say otherwise is basically clueless. All but Neuer have been dreadful for large spells of the game for me.

A whole fan base? I didn't realise we'd elected a representative, because that's the only way you could get that conclusion. Unless you're making a silly generalisation, of course.

Ozil was decent in the first half, and has been completely ineffectual since 70 minutes or so.

Hank Scorpio

Shame Algeria didn't get to play France if it stays the same. Reckon they would have beaten them. I had an Algerian house mate years ago working in Dublin and every time he was drunk he would start going on about how he hated France and their arrogance, he especially hated Thierry Henry and loved Zidane cause of his Algerian roots

Corholio

tayto lover wrote: »

I'd say many of the people criticising Ozil never kicked a ball in their lives in fairness to them.

Jesus. Grow up in fairness.

efb

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

Brazil own that since 1970.

FIFA will make sure they get the World Cup Trophy too

Adamocovic

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

No one from what I can see is criticising Ozil for the sake of it. One fan base seems determined to make out he's been sensational today however, and anyone who dares say otherwise is basically clueless. All but Neuer have been dreadful for large spells of the game for me.

I agree completely, the whole German performance hasn't been exactly clinical bar Neuer. I know Algeria have been decent but Germany have wasted chances and haven't looked anywhere near their best. Just seems all the focus on the forum is on Ozil when the whole German team has under performed.

They will want to improve if they get through to the quarters!

Nuri Sahin

EuropeanSon wrote: »

Don't generalise.

He was decent in the first half, as much as any of them were. Since about 70 minutes he's been completely ineffectual.

I don't mean to generalise (watching and typing quickly here).

He was decent for 20-25 minutes, and A LOT of your fanbase in this thread seem to agree with what tayto has said.

Headshot

ozil is pure dirt

vidor

Smooth Ozil

YFlyer

Ozil out of play.

tayto lover

Corholio wrote: »

Jesus. Grow up in fairness.

Pot, kettle, black in fairness.

MayoSalmon

Ozil has been very average but so has the whole German team in fairness

AllGunsBlazing

Ozil has goggle eyes!

Adamocovic

tayto lover wrote: »

Pot, kettle, black in fairness.

Pot calling the kettle a cat!

egghead.

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

Ozil has goggle eyes!

Mature.

Corholio

tayto lover wrote: »

Pot, kettle, black in fairness.

How? What general sweeping, childish statements did I make?

vidor

"2014 World Cup"

Thanks, Peter.

murpho999

What clock has Peter Collins got?

20 mins gone he said we're half-way through 2nd half of ET and now he said 2.5 mins to go at 24 mins?

Corholio

murpho999 wrote: »

WHat clock has Peter Collins got?

20 mins gone he said we're half-way through 2nd half of ET and now he said 2.5 mins to go at 24 mins?

It's the lap times.

AllGunsBlazing

egghead. wrote: »

Mature.

Late thirties as it goes. And truth be told I'm a fully paid up member of the Ozil appreciation society.

EuropeanSon

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

I don't generalise.

He was decent for 20-25 minutes, and A LOT of your fanbase seem to agree with what tayto has said.

You did. It seemed quite petty.

I don't see much agreement here. The odd post from an Arsenal fan saying he had a good first half and subsequently hasn't been much more useless than the rest of the German midfield/attack was about it.

murpho999

Germany looking to be the physically fitter side at this stage.

efb

Ger v Arg in the final!

Hank Scorpio

Khedira has been excellent since he came on in fairness