Xbox One/360 Dashboard & Update Discussion (Retail/Beta/Preview Versions)

Just got it there, 3.6gb update.

Still not right, they need to get that Discover and sponsored stuff out of there.

CatInABox

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Just got it there, 3.6gb update.

Still not right, they need to get that Discover and sponsored stuff out of there.

I wouldn't mind the discovery one, if it wasn't totally useless. The stuff it shows me makes me wonder if my wife and kids get up in the middle of the night to play and look at stuff I've no interest in.

marcbrophy

Any chance that there's an update all button for the updates in that latest alpha?

MJohnston

I really don't like that new dashboard redesign - The 'Resume' label is completely unnecessary information and is taking up so much space, and the 'Discover' label isn't much better (what does it even mean?). Plus it annoys me that you can't set your custom groups as your primary dashboard home. So I took a stab at mocking up what I think it should look like:

CatInABox

That's not bad. Think you may have too much on the left, but I like the density of the section on the right. I hate the design trend that came in a few years back of having only a few icons or info on a screen, it's always seems a massive waste of space on a screen. Not sure why it's caught on, the new redesign of twitter is the same, it's like a fisherprice design.

CatInABox

CatInABox wrote: »

That's not bad. Think you may have too much on the left, but I like the density of the section on the right. I hate the design trend that came in a few years back of having only a few icons or info on a screen, it's always seems a massive waste of space on a screen. Not sure why it's caught on, the new redesign of twitter is the same, it's like a fisherprice design.

something something responsive design? I'm not that well read on it as web and ui are not my area but that was definitely a thing a few years back and I hated sites that used it as it made some desk top sites feel like mobile ones.

Latest alpha update reverts back to the older style one. Pity, I thought the new one was a big improvement.

CatInABox

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Latest alpha update reverts back to the older style one. Pity, I thought the new one was a big improvement.

Yeah, it definitely is. They're taking it down while they look at all the feedback. I'd assume we'll see it again soon enough.

CatInABox

Details from the 1910 update have been announced.

Wish List Notifications
We’re so happy to see everyone enjoying the Wish List feature on the Microsoft Store! The October update is adding more to this feature, starting with notifications that alert users when an item in their Wish List has a price discount. We know how exciting it is when a game you want goes on sale. The new Wish List notifications will make sure you never miss a great deal.

Mixer Viewing Improvements
Mixer and Xbox One are integrating further with the 1910 update. We’ve built a full Mixer viewing experience right into the dashboard, with a focus on speed and simplicity. Viewers will no longer have to navigate to a separate app to enjoy their favorite streamers. Getting to the Mixer content you want to watch has never been easier!

Recent Players Improvements
We listened to your feedback regarding the popular Recent Players feature, and its frequent use with large-scale multiplayer games. We’ve made significant improvements to the Recent Players experience. The service is now more reliable and allows you to connect with other gamers instantly. You can now more quickly and easily engage with your Recent Players, whether you are sending a message, inviting players to a party, or adding them to your Friends List.

More Flexible Capture Settings
We heard your feedback on wanting more control over your game capture experience. The “Allow game captures” setting now has multiple options, giving you a choice of what types of captures can be taken. You may now select between ‘”Captures by me,” “Captures by me or games,” or “Don’t capture.”

Recommend a Game Pass Title
In 2017, we announced Xbox Game Pass. Since that time, we’ve seen an incredible turnout of users joining the service that brings you unlimited access to over 100 titles and counting! If you’ve ever found yourself recommending these spectacular games to your friends, with the 1910 update, Game Pass users will have the option to do so directly from their Xbox One console. Discover your next favorite game and bring your friends along for the ride in October.

Under-the-Hood Game Update Improvements
With 1910, players can jump into their favorite games even faster! We’ve added improvements, based on your feedback, to background game updates, resulting in players encountering the “update required” screen less frequently upon launching a title.

jimbob_jones

I got an update this morning and it looks like they have re-enabled the new style dash without the extra tabs.

jimbob_jones

jimbob_jones wrote: »

I got an update this morning and it looks like they have re-enabled the new style dash without the extra tabs.

Did anyone who had the new dashboard get switched back to the tabbed one after the latest update ?

CatInABox

jimbob_jones wrote: »

Did anyone who had the new dashboard get switched back to the tabbed one after the latest update ?

Yup, they swapped back.

https://twitter.com/WorkWombatman/status/1179894766764355584

Incredibly frustrating to go back to the old one now that we've had the new one.

CatInABox

https://twitter.com/majornelson/status/1181585977128538112

Rolling out the October update for everyone now.

Some nice under the hood kind of stuff in this one, like getting a notification if a game on your wishlist is on sale, recent players being fixed/improved, and an improvement to game updates so you shouldn't see "this game needs an update" as often.

marcbrophy

2 versions of the new dash incoming for "some" of you Alpha's

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2019/10/17/exciting-things-coming-to-the-xbox-one-home-dashboard/

I have one, it's really nice similar to the last one but now it's got the store, community and mixer etc and scrolls vertically. Much better imo. Still needs a fair bit of work but I like it and it's snappy compared to the standard dash.

CatInABox

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I have one, it's really nice similar to the last one but now it's got the store, community and mixer etc and scrolls vertically. Much better imo. Still needs a fair bit of work but I like it and it's snappy compared to the standard dash.

After getting the new dash in the previous tests, I'm now in the control group

marcbrophy

CatInABox wrote: »

After getting the new dash in the previous tests, I'm now in the control group

Seems a bit redundant!
They did say it was random though.

jimbob_jones

Ok, so a weird thing happened tonight, I was in the last group that got the new dash but it reverted to the old one, once the testing cycle finished.

But tonight without an update I have a new variant of the dash board. The Home Experiment 4 dash.

I main Apps / Games icon on the dash and the 4 sub headings below it

Have the two versions on my launch and X consoles , definitely prefer the 4 buttons over the my games an apps only one. Still the entire second row is taken up with crap.

Playing Outer Worlds on PC with Gamepass and I have to say I like the game bar overlay in windows. Faster and more relevant to me than the xbox equivalent.

marcbrophy

Got a message there yesterday that I only noticed tonight.
They are accepting some more Alpha's on a limited basis from people who expressed interest earlier in the year!

Which mean that finally, after 4.5 years in the program, I'm on the Alpha circle!
Praise Jeebus

Blazer

I honestly don't know what Microsoft are doing with the UI for xbox. Its a complete and utter mess.
I really wish they went back to the blade UI...far far cleaner and efficient.
6 years people have been complaining about it and its farcical at this stage.

MJohnston

In fairness, people always complain, and especially gamers, and especially especially about UI. I think they're listening to feedback too much, spending too much time analysing usage data, and they just need to go back to trusting their UI designers instincts. I don't want a return to the blades myself, but maybe its also time they allowed for a bit of layout customisation - give a few options for layout and let people choose. Imo the current non-beta version of the dash is as good as it's been. We're never going to get rid of dashboard advertising (although I'd like to see them allow you to remove it if you're paying for Gold) which will always make people annoyed, I think.

CatInABox

MJohnston wrote: »

In fairness, people always complain, and especially gamers, and especially especially about UI. I think they're listening to feedback too much, spending too much time analysing usage data, and they just need to go back to trusting their UI designers instincts. I don't want a return to the blades myself, but maybe its also time they allowed for a bit of layout customisation - give a few options for layout and let people choose. Imo the current non-beta version of the dash is as good as it's been. We're never going to get rid of dashboard advertising (although I'd like to see them allow you to remove it if you're paying for Gold) which will always make people annoyed, I think.

I'd love if they allowed the type of customisation that something like Kodi offers. The standard skin is basic but feature complete for doing everything, and then people are able to code their own skins and extend the features offered by it, with the skins then being available on Microsofts app store.

I think that would be amazing.

Back on the "experimental dash" again. Looks no different to last time really.

Looking at it now having been back on the current one for a while it does look crap. It's confused at this stage. There are things there nobody wants to see and things you can get to by pressing the guide button. Like I don't need to see 2 of my pals are playing RDR2 followed by 2 ads next to it.

CatInABox

Finally, a bug bear of mine is getting fixed.

With today’s update, we’re bringing you more ways to keep My Games & Apps organized! Users will now find:

• Content grouping for easier navigation and access to your games and apps
• Streamlined settings inside the app to simplify how you interact with your Collection
• Labels for trials and demos

I've avoided Demos for the longest time because it cluttered my collection

runawaybishop

CatInABox wrote: »

Finally, a bug bear of mine is getting fixed.



I've avoided Demos for the longest time because it cluttered my collection

I have tons of test games in my collection, I just remove them from the list.

CatInABox

runawaybishop wrote: »

I have tons of test games in my collection, I just remove them from the list.

As do I, but it's a faff that could be streamlined. Now, it'll be easier.

Some changes to My Games and Apps in this update, they've moved queue, all owned games, game pass and games with gold to a new Full Library section and updates into a manage section.

I'm not in the preview program and just got the new dash. Oh my how bad is this, it's like a really bad modded skin. Is there any way to bring back the previous dash? Is this going to be the dash for the series x?

wotzgoingon

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I'm not in the preview program and just got the new dash. Oh my how bad is this, it's like a really bad modded skin. Is there any way to bring back the previous dash? Is this going to be the dash for the series x?

It's not too bad just tried it just now. Couple of days use and it will be normal.

ZiabR

I am loving it. Its much faster then the older UI and once you know where things are it is great.