Have to activate central-heating in order to top up the boiler pressure.

Egass13

V.W.L 11 wrote: »

Vokera Mynute HE,a piece of fcuking sh1t :mad:

That's just a low water pressure fault, they are actually very decent boilers tbh. Have the same one myself.

V.W.L 11

mrcheez wrote: »

get yer own thread ffs

eh................................... NO :P

V.W.L 11

Egass13 wrote: »

That's just a low water pressure fault, they are actually very decent boilers tbh. Have the same one myself.

is that any easy self fix or do I need to get an RGI out?

Egass13

V.W.L 11 wrote: »

is that any easy self fix or do I need to get an RGI out?

If it's always happening then get an Rgi

V.W.L 11

Egass13 wrote: »

If it's always happening then get an Rgi

They only just replaced the thermister and it happened a few days later

Egass13

V.W.L 11 wrote: »

They only just replaced the thermister and it happened a few days later

Get them back so , shouldn't have to pay for a problem that was probably caused by them in the first place

V.W.L 11

Egass13 wrote: »

Get them back so , shouldn't have to pay for a problem that was probably caused by them in the first place

trying to contact them but no joy,they seem like a cowboy outfit tbh :mad:

mrcheez

Hmm this is the risk when going for smaller outfits like I mentioned before

scudo2

mrcheez wrote: »

Hmm this is the risk when going for smaller outfits like I mentioned before

ALL of the helpfull you've got here is from small outfits !
Free Of Charge I might add.
Who have taken an intrest in helping you out, were not GOOGLE.
Like everything in life, you'll find good and bad on both sides.
But I reckon you have figures out were the good guy's ????

mrcheez

mrcheez wrote: »

Hmm this is the risk when going for smaller outfits like I mentioned before

Bit of a generalisation.

I find one man bands are more likely to take ownership of a problem, I get more calls from self employed RGIs seeking to put a problem to bed than larger firms.

Up until recently there was no real entrance requirement to becoming a RGI, this open door policy has allowed unskilled RGIs to flood the industry to work along side competent RGIs.

Sadly you have no way of knowing what's in front of you.

mrcheez

scudo2 wrote: »

ALL of the helpfull you've got here is from small outfits !

Again you're completely missing the point I'm making.

I'm saying smaller outfits can "disappear" more easily than larger outfits.

Larger companies are less likely to shut up shop/change their contact details and rebrand themselves all to avoid having to deal with an 8K job they have to redo.

This is not a reflection on the GOOD small companies, but unfortunately no-one I knew could recommend a plumbing company willing to take on the job I wanted (fitting a combi-boiler and replumbing entire house), so rather than gamble on an unknown I went for a company that I could trace in case anything went wrong.

The fact they are now still coming to try to rectify the erroneous work they have done is testament to the choices I made.

mrcheez

mrcheez wrote: »

The fact they are now still coming to try to rectify the erroneous work they have done is testament to the choices I made.

The issues you are having I would expect to be dealt with differently.

Most of those who have helped you here are self employed and have yet to disappear and the idea a larger outfit is safer than a smaller outfit is not my experience of things so I'd refer you to Scudos point about the good and the bad.

mrcheez

I wasn't joined to boards until after I got the job started so I probably would have checked in here for recommendations before starting the job and sure I would have been happy to go for a smaller company/sole trader based on the sort of responses they gave to questions over the years, as they'd have their boards.ie reputation to uphold.

The RGI guys I chose, though, were a large company working on several larger projects at the time, so they were less likely to jump ship if (and indeed when) things went tits-up.

They seem to have a WB partnership that I'm sure they want to hold onto, so don't want me going to WB complaining about the work they did I guess.

So it's all about selecting someone who has a reputation or has something to lose if things don't work out.

murphaph

Fitting a new boiler and replumbing a house are not difficult for a decent tradesman. It's the patch up jobs that are messy. It's very poor that they haven't yet rectified the fault in what is a brand new system.

mrcheez

I tell ya, after meeting some of the guys that came to quote me for the job and hearing their suggestions (which even a layman like myself knew were bonkers) this could have been a lot, lot worse... it's like the Wild West with the number of cowboys.

mrcheez

scudo2 wrote: »

I'ts those "Who" cares that counts.
You seems to be missing the fundimental point here.
"We care about out trade"
That's why were trying to help.

OK say I post a job up on tradesmen.ie.

I get 10 guys coming over to give me quotes. They all say they care about their trade.

I've no other recommendation to go on as I know no-one else who has got plumbing work done.

(a) I pick the single guy whose company name is his own name and he assures me he's fully insured and has references etc
or
(b) I pick the guy with 20 staff and currently working on several large projects, with an established address. I verify that the other projects are indeed being done by these guys, I do the other background checks etc.

Months roll on.. **** hits the fan. (a) or (b) decide they don't want to comply. Turns out entire job is messed up and has to be redone.

(a) can pretty easily disappear ... (b) can try to disappear, but they're already committed to that 40-apartment building project and the lawyer letter arrives on their shiny secretary's desk. Will they risk that 40-apartment job and rebrand the company name to avoid being found by me? Doubt it.

They can be traced easier if needs be. This is the fundamental point I'm making...

mrcheez

mrcheez wrote: »

OK say I post a job up on tradesmen.ie.

I get 10 guys coming over to give me quotes. They all say they care about their trade.

I've no other recommendation to go on as I know no-one else who has got plumbing work done.

(a) I pick the single guy whose company name is his own name and he assures me he's fully insured and has references etc
or
(b) I pick the guy with 20 staff and currently working on several large projects, with an established address. I verify that the other projects are indeed being done by these guys, I do the other background checks etc.

Months roll on.. **** hits the fan. (a) or (b) decide they don't want to comply. Turns out entire job is messed up and has to be redone.

(a) can pretty easily disappear ... (b) can try to disappear, but they're already committed to that 40-apartment building project and the lawyer letter arrives on their shiny secretary's desk. Will they risk that 40-apartment job and rebrand the company name to avoid being found by me? Doubt it.

They can be traced easier if needs be. This is the fundamental point I'm making...

I don't think you have to explain anything, you have every right to employ who you want, where it goes a bit pear shaped for you is your sharing your thoughts on one man bands when it's mainly one man bands who are trying to give you a dig out.

scudo2

I give up.

Wearb

scudo2 wrote: »

I give up.

You lasted well Scudo. Sometimes you get ballbreakers. Sometimes its more important to the op that they be right than have their problem sorted.

mrcheez

scudo2 wrote: »

I give up.

ditto

highly sensitive lot in here

corkgsxr

mrcheez wrote: »

OK say I post a job up on tradesmen.ie.

I get 10 guys coming over to give me quotes. They all say they care about their trade.

I've no other recommendation to go on as I know no-one else who has got plumbing work done.

(a) I pick the single guy whose company name is his own name and he assures me he's fully insured and has references etc
or
(b) I pick the guy with 20 staff and currently working on several large projects, with an established address. I verify that the other projects are indeed being done by these guys, I do the other background checks etc.

Months roll on.. **** hits the fan. (a) or (b) decide they don't want to comply. Turns out entire job is messed up and has to be redone.

(a) can pretty easily disappear ... (b) can try to disappear, but they're already committed to that 40-apartment building project and the lawyer letter arrives on their shiny secretary's desk. Will they risk that 40-apartment job and rebrand the company name to avoid being found by me? Doubt it.

They can be traced easier if needs be. This is the fundamental point I'm making...

Most one man bands the address for them is there home so not easy to just disappear.

I'd say a vast percentage of plumbers are one man bands. So straight away you could be writing off 60-70% of plumbers

mrcheez

corkgsxr wrote: »

I'd say a vast percentage of plumbers are one man bands. So straight away you could be writing off 60-70% of plumbers

I said this before but I'll reiterate it here...

I wouldn't write off a one man operation if he has proven track-record of giving good advice (and would stick around to see the job through), such as those you can find on boards (although I'd be worried about those that seem to be easily offended!)

As I said there's a "risk", not a "problem" with going for one-man operations as the "risk" of the guy being able to run off is greater, than if he's rooted to a large organisation. Take the example of the other poster who can't contact his plumbers (do they have a website? Office? Why can't he contact them?!? Large place would have all of these.)

So, for those who know good one-man operations, go for those!

For those like me (and it seems, the other poster) who didn't know any plumbers at the time of the job, play it safe by picking the "best of a bad bunch" so that if things go crappy you have somewhere to go knock on their door with the solicitor note.

OK I'm done .. I don't know how to make this any clearer :rolleyes:

mrcheez

If anyone's interested the RGI will be replacing the external filling loop with a "Worcester Keyless Filling Link 7716192610", hopefully this will rectify the issues regarding topping up the boiler. Worcester Bosch were very clear that the device has to be "WRAS-approved".

http://www.directheatingsupplies.co.uk/pid_40017/106146/Worcester-Keyless-Filling-Link-7716192610.aspx

K.Flyer

mrcheez wrote: »

If anyone's interested the RGI will be replacing the external filling loop with a "Worcester Keyless Filling Link 7716192610", hopefully this will rectify the issues regarding topping up the boiler. Worcester Bosch were very clear that the device has to be "WRAS-approved".

http://www.directheatingsupplies.co.uk/pid_40017/106146/Worcester-Keyless-Filling-Link-7716192610.aspx

Which is just an updated version of this (remember a few pages back).

scudo2

mrcheez wrote: »

If anyone's interested the RGI will be replacing the external filling loop with a "Worcester Keyless Filling Link 7716192610", hopefully this will rectify the issues regarding topping up the boiler. Worcester Bosch were very clear that the device has to be "WRAS-approved".

http://www.directheatingsupplies.co.uk/pid_40017/106146/Worcester-Keyless-Filling-Link-7716192610.aspx

Any chance we can have a photo of yourself beside the boiler.

scudo2

scudo2 wrote: »

Any chance we can have a photo of yourself beside the boiler.

Err... This isn't a dating service, every man deserves a bit of love but I'd have to ask you to look elsewhere for it, thank you.

mrcheez

gary71 wrote: »

Err... This isn't a dating service, every man deserves a bit of love but I'd have to ask you to look elsewhere for it, thank you.

Treat em mean keep em keen