Garth Brooks concerts cancelled - **READ FIRST POST FOR MOD NOTES**

Happyman42

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller wrote: »

Neither am I and if you read my reply to that horseshite accusation you would realise that.

resulting from the serious inadequacy of a council official.

Yeh right.

goz83

Reformed Character wrote: »

Its piss plain obvious to a blind man that DCC would win, which is why the GAA leader of the Oireachtas kangaroo court is so desperate to use any means possible to try to pressurise Owen Keegan into not opposing it.

How much for the crystal ball?

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller

bumper234 wrote: »

You just want to rush changes to laws through and ride rough shod over processes so you can see a washed up singer.

First of all I don't like country and western music and secondly, if he is so "washed up".. how did he manage to sell 330,000 concert tickets in a country of only 4.5m?

goz83

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller wrote: »

First of all I don't like country and western music and secondly, if he is so "washed up".. how did he manage to sell 330,000 concert tickets in a country of only 4.5m?

Is it not 400k?

Aidric

Reformed Character wrote: »

the culchie and western brigade

Oh, the masks are slipping.

Keegan seems to have plowed his own furrow here in an effort to stick it to big business. It was nicely packaged up against concerns of residents, 40% of these objections now reported to be bogus. The whole thing is a sorry mess.

My name is URL

Reformed Character wrote: »

Its piss plain obvious to a blind man that DCC would win, which is why the GAA leader of the Oireachtas kangaroo court is so desperate to use any means possible to try to pressurise Owen Keegan into not opposing it.

You're wrong. That's not why they don't want DCC to object to a review, they don't want them to object because that is the only way the concerts can be salvaged at this stage.

And the committee is not a court, kangaroo or otherwise. They cannot make findings like a court can. Can you not make your point with out all the claptrap attached?

DOCARCH

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller wrote: »

First of all I don't like country and western music and secondly, if he is so "washed up".. how did he manage to sell 330,000 concert tickets in a country of only 4.5m?

1m people from Dublin and 3.5m boggers...and easy sell! :pac:

bumper234

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller wrote: »

First of all I don't like country and western music and secondly, if he is so "washed up".. how did he manage to sell 330,000 concert tickets in a country of only 4.5m?

There is no.accounting for bad taste. Nice how you don't deny trying to bypass laws and processes though......very telling

Muise...

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller wrote: »

Christ, and I was accused of gross misrepresentation..

I didn't say, nor imply, anything whatsoever about Keegan needing to receive his comeuppance asap and so not sure why you using the word 'trial' with regards to what I said.

We are speaking in context of these concerts and a judicial review of matters should be able to take place in as short space of time as deemed necessary, if and when time is of the essence with regards to preventing further ramifications resulting from the serious inadequacy of a council official. His comeuppance / reprimanding can wait and so no need to 'shoot now' and give him a 'fair trial' later as the "shooting" can wait for later also.

You took delight in his having to face another round of questioning tomorrow though.

His "serious inadequecy" is a matter of opinion from people who are aggrieved by his decision, and all allegations against him are hearsay. To urge a rapid overturning of his decision is to "shoot" him as it is with the sole aim of letting the concerts go ahead, and it carries the presumption that he is corrupt/incompetent if an Oireachtas committee and judicial review can be allowed to bully through the concerts in spite of the judgement he made - a judgement he is tasked with making on behalf of the city.

bumper234

Aidric wrote: »

Oh, the masks are slipping.

Keegan seems to have plowed his own furrow here in an effort to stick it to big business. It was nicely packaged up against concerns of residents, 40% of these objections now reported to be ALLEGEDLY bogus. The whole thing is a sorry mess.

FYP

goz83

DOCARCH wrote: »

1m people from Dublin and 3.5m boggers...and easy sell! :pac:

I thought Dublin was around 1.5m now? And there must be a lot less "boggers" around since the last census, due to so many effing off to Oz, Canada, USA, UK and anywhere else there are jobs.

muddypaws

My name is URL wrote: »

Has any more light been shone on the nature of the connections between the GAA and head of planning for DCC, Jim Keogan?

And for what reason Keegan doesn't feel he was conflicted despite writing a letter to committee members stating that they may be conflicted should they have connections with the GAA?



http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/dcc-boss-owen-keegan-says-council-made-no-effort-to-verify-garth-brooks-objections-30433523.html

I don't think it's a clear cut as people are making out, that DCC would be victorious should there be a judicial review. Smells fishy as fcuk.

My name is URL wrote: »

Is that the best you can come up with as a response to the question I asked?

Keogan made the decision to disallow the concerts, and he is very obviously conflicted. His connections to the GAA should be made known. It's bad enough that he owns a house in the area in which his son lives.

As I said, if there was a judicial review it's far from clear that DCC would be victorious in it.

My name is URL wrote: »

He should have made his conflicts of interest known to Keegan upon being given the task of deliberating on the matter.

If Keegan felt that committee members were conflicted if they had ties to the GAA, then obviously the same standard should/would have been applicable to Keogan at that time.

I can understand that you didn't watch it yesterday, but seriously, making something out of his GAA connections :pac:

He was asked if he had ever been a member of the GAA. He replied that he had played for GAA clubs as a kid, and had even played at Croke Park, I honestly can't remember if he had also then supported his local GAA club as an adult, and as a parent, he may well have done. That is the limit of his GAA connections.

Happyman42

My name is URL wrote: »

He should have made his conflicts of interest known to Keegan upon being given the task of deliberating on the matter.

If Keegan felt that committee members were conflicted if they had ties to the GAA, then obviously the same standard should/would have been applicable to Keogan at that time.

Because that committee was questioning whether they have done their jobs properly in making a decision where the GAA have lost out on millions and have been more or less stopped in their tracks until they reach an agreement with residents they where ignoring.

Keoghan is a qualified and vastly experienced planning professional and part of a team who regularly make decisions on planning issues within the community in which they reside.

kippy

Aidric wrote: »

Oh, the masks are slipping.

Keegan seems to have plowed his own furrow here in an effort to stick it to big business. It was nicely packaged up against concerns of residents, 40% of these objections now reported to be bogus. The whole thing is a sorry mess.

Seriously stop with the 40 percent figure....

Happyman42

Aidric wrote: »

Oh, the masks are slipping.

Keegan seems to have plowed his own furrow here in an effort to stick it to big business. It was nicely packaged up against concerns of residents, 40% of these objections now reported to be bogus. The whole thing is a sorry mess.

11 confirmed bogus objections. That is all we know.

Pauric Duffy seems to know that there are definitely more though...wonder how he knows that? Those bogus objections dropped off by one man have turned out very handy in the campaign to get this overturned.

keith16

I was bored so I pulled the data of who posted in this thread and made a word-cloud from the usernames.

The bigger the username, the more posts in this thread.

hatrickpatrick

Happyman42 wrote: »

Keoghan is a qualified and vastly experienced planning professional and part of a team who regularly make decisions on planning issues within the community in which they reside.

Keegan, you mean?
The man responsible for Dun Laoghaire library cannot possibly be alleged to be a competent planning adjudicator. He overruled the democratic will of the council and utterly defaced a formerly beautiful seaside area.
Again, one can take a side in this Garth Brooks saga without needing to defend any of the individuals involved. Defending Keegan is unnecessary and actually damages the argument, since anyone who has had any dealings with him in his past roles knows exactly what kind of gobsh!te he is.

hatrickpatrick

keith16 wrote: »

I was bored so I pulled the data of who posted in this thread and made a word-cloud from the usernames.

The bigger the username, the more posts in this thread.

Thought I'd be bigger
Now if we were to do a word cloud of weiner sizes, I'd come out of it looking a lot better





Too far?

HigginsJ

keith16 wrote: »

I was bored so I pulled the data of who posted in this thread and made a word-cloud from the usernames.

The bigger the username, the more posts in this thread.

Found my name woo!!!!

Duckworth_Luas

homerjk wrote: »

Ah ok, I wasn't aware of anyone within the GAA who wasn't for the concerts. Especially after croke park said they were going to give some of the money from every ticket to the GAA clubs to try and sweeten them

The harshest criticism of Croke Park comes from within the GAA itself. I checked on a GAA forum and the views exactly mirror the views on this thread, both those for and against.

Many members are uncomfortable with the over commercialisation of their HQ and other sections of their organisation.

Whatever the outcome, McKenna will have a lot to answer for from his employers at the next GAA Congress.

Also I thought that none of the Garth Brooks money was earmarked for Ireland. It was all going to support GAA clubs abroad, ie emigrants.

Happyman42

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Keegan, you mean?
The man responsible for Dun Laoghaire library cannot possibly be alleged to be a competent planning adjudicator. He overruled the democratic will of the council and utterly defaced a formerly beautiful seaside area.
Again, one can take a side in this Garth Brooks saga without needing to defend any of the individuals involved. Defending Keegan is unnecessary and actually damages the argument, since anyone who has had any dealings with him in his past roles knows exactly what kind of gobsh!te he is.

No..Keoghan.

hatrickpatrick

Happyman42 wrote: »

No..Keoghan.

Sorry about that, got caught up in the weiner babble.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBcnliSUtb8

El Weirdo

keith16 wrote: »

I was bored so I pulled the data of who posted in this thread and made a word-cloud from the usernames.

The bigger the username, the more posts in this thread.

Jesus, my name is a little bigger than I would have liked if I'm completely honest.

Peppa Pig

kippy wrote: »

Seriously stop with the 40 percent figure....

How anyone can say that definitively is rubbish and its shocking that an Oireachtas committee decided to seek a judicial enquiry based on it.
I think we can now see how Bertie, Seanie Fitz, Sean Quinn et al operated

But no - lets assume it is right and that 40% of objections were false. That's 155.

Lets ignore the 232 valid objections.....

And don't forget Garth Brooks is completely inflexible in this. 5 or nothing on consecutive nights. It's like there is a huge amount of airbrushing going on.

Happyman42

El Weirdo wrote: »

Jesus, my name is a little bigger than I would have liked if I'm completely honest.

Imagine how I feel....I remember Jim Rockford when he was lower case!

Robert2012

First time poster here, long, long time viewer of this thread.

Garth Brooks will not play in CP

It is not DCC's fault

Yes, it is embarrassing that this situation has occurred

The law needs to be changed..Correct me if I'm wrong, but there must be some gigs booked for 2015.

Looking forward to the thread here

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller

keith16 wrote: »

I was bored so I pulled the data of who posted in this thread and made a word-cloud from the usernames.

The bigger the username, the more posts in this thread.

I just had a game of Where's Wally willowthewisp :P

bumper234

Happyman42 wrote: »

Imagine how I feel....I remember Jim Rockford when he was lower case!

Who?

keith16

El Weirdo wrote: »

Jesus, my name is a little bigger than I would have liked if I'm completely honest.

Indeed! To be honest, this was the effect I was hoping to have!

GB is not playing in Croker, now stop posting here and let it go away like the non-story it deserved to be

Santa Cruz

Robert2012 wrote: »

First time poster here, long, long time viewer of this thread.

Garth Brooks will not play in CP

It is not DCC's fault

Yes, it is embarrassing that this situation has occurred

The law needs to be changed..Correct me if I'm wrong, but there must be some gigs booked for 2015.

Looking forward to the thread here

That thread will come on around next May. We will have a few months of "Would you wear a Poppy" and "Would you wear an Easter Lily " first though