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Garth Brooks concerts cancelled - **READ FIRST POST FOR MOD NOTES**

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    #6242
    dinorebel
    Registered Users Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭dinorebel


    nc6000 wrote: »
    Is there anything to stop them refunding everyone who bought tickets for the 5 shows and then putting the 3 they have permission for on sale at 09.00 on Monday?
    It would be worth it for the ensuing hilarity if nothing else.


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    #6243
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,081 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    His job is not on the line, it's a speculative piece. And if there was any truth to it, our democracy is a disgrace.
    not at all, good riddens, his past decisians before this are reason to get rid

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #6244
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    end of the road wrote: »
    no doesn't seem to be availible if it even exists at all, even if it did exist no doubt its set up in such a way that more then 3 concerts could happen

    But not 5 ;)


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    #6245
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Bogdanistan wrote: »
    Exposure of the truth and public sector incompetance, a novel concept in Ireland I know.
    Stockholm syndrome, eh. If the planning process can't be corrupted by financial pressure then it must be incompetence! Couldn't make it up!


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    #6246
    Bogdanistan
    Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭Bogdanistan


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    You don't see the fact that what the city manager did is somewhat contradictory to your cronyism points ?

    What's cronyism is how some member of the oireachtas committee are behaving.

    Exposing the incompetance of DCC = cronieism.

    Hmmm, that's a novel new spin, I'll grant you that.


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    #6247
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Bogdanistan wrote: »
    Exposure of the truth and public sector incompetance, a novel concept in Ireland I know.

    :rolleyes:


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    #6248
    secman
    Registered Users Posts: 6,328 ✭✭✭secman


    nc6000 wrote: »
    Is there anything to stop them refunding everyone who bought tickets for the 5 shows and then putting the 3 they have permission for on sale at 09.00 on Monday?

    Yes....Garth Brooks


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    #6249
    bean14
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭bean14


    I'd a ticket for the Saturday night. My sister lives near croke park. Most of her neighbours included her wanted the 5 nights to go ahead. Big loss for the countrys finances


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    #6250
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Wishiwasa Littlebitaller wrote: »
    It was July 2nd. Any pressure that was coming his way, was more than likely just telling him to get his thumb out.

    Again, believing what you want to believe.
    And as for buying his 'mistake' nonsense. Pull the other one.

    The guy is like most muppets with decision making positions in the council: inept.

    A quick drive around Dublin and you can see how decisions on road markings alone should have resulted in sackings. Did this fool have signs he approved get ripped down at the cost of the tax payer. I'm just surprised ac calamity like this didn't occur before with idiots like this at the helm. He reminds of this plonker.

    So somebody admits he made a mistake and he is a plonker.
    I guess we should have just given you the job instead...you seem to know better than anyone else how to do it. Despite your obvious comprehension difficulties.
    Send in your application and we will 'consider it'.


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    #6251
    Bogdanistan
    Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭Bogdanistan


    bean14 wrote: »
    I'd a ticket for the Saturday night. My sister lives near croke park. Most of her neighbours included her wanted the 5 nights to go ahead. Big loss for the countrys finances

    Sussshhhhh, you're not supposed to say that.


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    #6252
    Bogdanistan
    Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭Bogdanistan


    nc6000 wrote: »
    Is there anything to stop them refunding everyone who bought tickets for the 5 shows and then putting the 3 they have permission for on sale at 09.00 on Monday?

    One direction already played three concerts there in May


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    #6253
    conorh91
    Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭conorh91


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Do you think that maybe Aiken and GAA decided to salvage something out of this, i.e. lets kick up as big a fuss about this, kick to touch, keep the pressure on (that we know is useless) in the hope that very fuss will ensure that no planner will (or will be reluctant to) will refuse anything we propose again?
    That's the most likely reason for him saying it I think.

    That, or he was hoping for a successful judicial review and then a successful re-application under emergency legislation to fast-track the licensing situation.

    Threatening DCC with Judicial Review alone was pointless, as DCC know the question would be moot because of the 10-week licence rule. And the High Court almost never entertains moot Judicial Review applications, so it would be dismissed. DCC would have known that, and Aiken would have known that, so there had to be some other motivation for Aiken's comments, as you say.

    So he was deliberately kicking up a fuss or he was deluded.


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    #6254
    muddypaws
    Registered Users Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    Bogdanistan wrote: »
    Are all such concerts not subject to licience in Ireland ?

    Yes, but 3 concerts a year in CP are pre-licensed.
    bumper234 wrote: »
    Moving on to personal attacks now that it's definitely all over.

    The GB fans are showing their true colours now.

    I think you mean the mask is slipping mwhahahaha


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    #6255
    lazygal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    Bogdanistan wrote: »
    One direction already played three concerts there in May

    But a licence has been approved for three further concerts in addition.


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    #6256
    nc6000
    Registered Users Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭nc6000


    Bogdanistan wrote: »
    One direction already played three concerts there in May

    But didn't DCC grant a license for 3 GB concerts? Refund everyone and start again with just the 3. :)


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    #6257
    Bogdanistan
    Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭Bogdanistan


    muddypaws wrote: »
    Yes, but 3 concerts a year in CP are pre-licensed.

    Do you mean an automatic grant or exempt from the planning process ?


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    #6258
    Bogdanistan
    Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭Bogdanistan


    lazygal wrote: »
    But a licence has been approved for three further concerts in addition.

    But only 3 per year are permitted, according to some residents


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    #6259
    secman
    Registered Users Posts: 6,328 ✭✭✭secman


    The GAA are in shock, miffed to the brim, can't believe someone said NO to the mighty GAA. Hopefully they have learned a harsh lesson.


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    #6260
    Daith
    Registered Users Posts: 4,978 ✭✭✭Daith


    Bogdanistan wrote: »
    But only 3 per year are permitted, according to some residents

    No, 3 allowed, pre-approved whatever and Croke Park can apply for more.


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    #6261
    Wishiwasa Littlebitaller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭Wishiwasa Littlebitaller


    Calina wrote: »
    That sounds like a bias to me.

    Well, I live here. Can't help but notice what a hames the numpties in the council have made of our city.

    I do however have an exceptional ability to set aside previous grievances and judge every situation on it's merits and so strenuously refute any suggestion that I am capable of ever being biased when judging another man's actions and so I therefore ask you to withdraw that remark.

    ....


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    #6262
    Bogdanistan
    Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭Bogdanistan


    secman wrote: »
    The GAA are in shock, miffed to the brim, can't believe someone said NO to the mighty GAA. Hopefully they have learned a harsh lesson.

    So have the businesses of Dublin, never trust the word of DCC


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    #6263
    muddypaws
    Registered Users Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    Bogdanistan wrote: »
    Do you mean an automatic grant or exempt from the planning process ?

    An automatic grant I guess, but event management plans etc would still have to be submitted.


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    #6264
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    nc6000 wrote: »
    But didn't DCC grant a license for 3 GB concerts? Refund everyone and start again with just the 3. :)

    Garth said all five or none so none it is.


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    #6265
    Bogdanistan
    Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭Bogdanistan


    muddypaws wrote: »
    An automatic grant I guess, but event management plans etc would still have to be submitted.

    An automatic grant . . I see


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    #6266
    Daith
    Registered Users Posts: 4,978 ✭✭✭Daith


    Bogdanistan wrote: »
    An automatic grant . . I see

    It could probably be refused if the planning application wasn't up to snuff.

    It does mean that residents couldn't object to the event on the basis that it was disruptive etc because they agreed to have 3.


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    #6267
    secman
    Registered Users Posts: 6,328 ✭✭✭secman


    Bogdanistan wrote: »
    But only 3 per year are permitted, according to some residents

    3 Concerts/non sport events are almost guaranteed once all criteria in place, after that all other proposed concerts/events are subject to planning permission. The residents were led to believe that the GAA would limit the events to the initial 3 permitted.

    Secman


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    #6268
    muddypaws
    Registered Users Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    Bogdanistan wrote: »
    An automatic grant . . I see

    They were actually your words :D

    When the stadium got planning permission to redevelop, part of that permission was for 3 non sporting events a year.


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    #6269
    Daith
    Registered Users Posts: 4,978 ✭✭✭Daith


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Garth said all five or none so none it is.

    So question for the planning experts here.

    If I want to run say something like Electric Picnic, an event over three nights, do I submit one application per night and one application that covers the three nights?


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    #6270
    Bogdanistan
    Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭Bogdanistan


    muddypaws wrote: »
    They were actually your words :D

    Well what is then, either they are subject to licience or they're not ?


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    #6271
    Bogdanistan
    Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭Bogdanistan


    muddypaws wrote: »
    that wasn't what you asked.

    Were the 3 one directon concerts already held this year at Croke Park, subject to licience or not ?


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