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Garth Brooks concerts cancelled - **READ FIRST POST FOR MOD NOTES**

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    #6902
    bumper234
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    conorh91 wrote: »
    No, it's too late to start afresh under the Regulations. It seems unlikely that the previous decision can be revised.

    so are 400,000 ticket-holders and business owners.

    How many businesses in the area of Croke park would have had to close down every day that the concerts would have been on? Or do those businesses not matter either?


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    #6903
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    bumper234 wrote: »
    But it did, or are residents not people in your eyes?

    Some people won, more people lost, would be more accurate.

    It's not power to most of the people.

    We've been through this.


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    #6904
    bumper234
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    nm wrote: »
    Some people won, more people lost, would be more accurate.

    It's not power to most of the people.

    We've been through this.

    It's power to the people over big business, Gombeenism and big money. The little man won....get used to it.


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    #6905
    conorh91
    Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭conorh91


    bumper234 wrote: »
    How many businesses in the area of Croke park would have had to close down every day that the concerts would have been on? Or do those businesses not matter either?
    A tiny number relative to the amount of businesses who would have benefitted from 400,000 people engaging in discretionary spending in the night-time economy, hotels, transport businesses and restaurants?


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    #6906
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    So only when residents pro-actively came forward to say they themselves had been forged were removed?


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    #6907
    My name is URL
    Registered Users Posts: 25,068 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    "Based on a sample of 200 submissions, Gardai have concluded that 64% are not suspect"


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    #6908
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    bumper234 wrote: »
    It's power to the people over big business, Gombeenism and big money. The little man won....get used to it.

    Ha ha you are hilarious, you can still get your head around it.

    140,000 ticket holders are all people (not to you mind), many SMALL businesses in the area, and on and on but I'm not going to bother.

    Once again, been through this.


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    #6909
    bumper234
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    conorh91 wrote: »
    A tiny number relative to the amount of businesses who would have benefitted from 400,000 people engaging in discretionary spending in the night-time economy, hotels, transport businesses and restaurants?

    Small businesses that lose out on a weeks business could face going broke. Again it's the small businesses that need the money rather than the large ones.


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    #6910
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    My name is URL wrote: »
    "Based on a sample of 200 submissions, Gardai have concluded that 64% are not suspect"

    I spotted that as well, that's a farce, it could be full of forgeries, we don't know and as there is proven forgeries in there (when the people have come forward themselves) I would think the rest should have been considered very suspect.


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    #6911
    Peppa Pig
    Registered Users Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Peppa Pig


    Owen Keegan has fairly done his homework.


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    #6912
    Peppa Pig
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    nm wrote: »
    I spotted that as well, that's a farce, it could be full of forgeries, we don't know and as there is proven forgeries in there (when the people have come forward themselves) I would think the rest should have been considered very suspect.
    You've obviously missed the statement from the guards that 64% have been verified as correct.


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    #6913
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    Peppa Pig wrote: »
    You've obviously missed the statement from the guards that 64% have been verified as correct.

    That is not a high number, that's what I'm saying.


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    #6914
    Peppa Pig
    Registered Users Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Peppa Pig


    I didn't realise that full privilige extends to these committees. No wonder Aiken and the GAA could rant without fear or favour

    Keegan is answering all of them.


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    #6915
    Fred Swanson
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    #6916
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    In fairness to Keegan he puts his points across a lot better than some of his more fanatical supporters here


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    #6917
    Daith
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    nm wrote: »
    That is not a high number, that's what I'm saying.

    It doesn't matter. DCC could act based on just one objection. It's not a matter of numbers.


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    #6918
    Peppa Pig
    Registered Users Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Peppa Pig


    nm wrote: »
    I would think the rest should have been considered very suspect.
    nm wrote: »
    That is not a high number, that's what I'm saying.

    No you are not. You are ignoring that the guards have verifed that 64% are valid. You are saying they all be considered suspect.
    You are now contradicting a garda investigation, they have spoken to the objectors - you have not.


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    #6919
    conorh91
    Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭conorh91


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Small businesses that lose out on a weeks business could face going broke. Again it's the small businesses that need the money rather than the large ones.
    This is nonsense to be honest, and it not cited by the Local Authority as a reason for the decision, insofar as they admit the economic benefits of the concerts going ahead. They merely think that the economic benefits do not outweigh the disruption to householders, and that is their right.

    It has nothing to do with local businesses closing for a few hours who thereafter "might have to close down".


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    #6920
    hynesie08
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    Who did he look at when he said "impartial"


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    #6921
    Peppa Pig
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    nm wrote: »
    In fairness to Keegan he puts his points across a lot better than some of his more fanatical supporters here
    the chairman now being friendly and calling him Owen.


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    #6922
    Peppa Pig
    Registered Users Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Peppa Pig


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    Who did he look at when he said "impartial"
    Timmy, I think


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    #6923
    hynesie08
    Registered Users Posts: 9,767 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    Peppa Pig wrote: »
    Timmy, I think

    Pure hate in that stare.


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    #6924
    Peppa Pig
    Registered Users Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Peppa Pig


    Timmy doesn't think DCC did anything wrong in the licence process - they just gave the wrong decision ;)


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    #6925
    ThisRegard
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    Peppa Pig wrote: »
    Timmy doesn't think DCC did anything wrong in the licence process - they just gave the wrong decision ;)

    Well a man with a photo of he and Garth on his twitter account would say that.


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    #6926
    Peppa Pig
    Registered Users Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Peppa Pig


    Keegan admits he said he would be supportive of the 5 :eek: .....

    ..... providing the GAA and Aiken dealt with the residents


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    #6927
    conorh91
    Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭conorh91


    Owen Keegan just confirmed that he did indicate to Peter McKenna that he was supportive of five concerts


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    #6928
    Peppa Pig
    Registered Users Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Peppa Pig


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Well a man with a photo of he and Garth on his twitter account would say that.
    I had a look because I thought you were joking.

    Sweet Jesus - this guy is on the committee


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    #6929
    ThisRegard
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    conorh91 wrote: »
    Owen Keegan just confirmed that he did indicate to Peter McKenna that he was supportive of five concerts

    Difference between supportive and licencing them. At the time it hadn't gone to public consultation.


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    #6930
    Peppa Pig
    Registered Users Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Peppa Pig


    Timmy is going to start crying here


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    #6931
    My name is URL
    Registered Users Posts: 25,068 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Difference between supportive and licencing them. At the time it hadn't gone to public consultation.

    Still a complete u-turn from what he said before. That he gave 'no indication' that he or the council would be supportive of 5 concerts


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