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Garth Brooks concerts cancelled - **READ FIRST POST FOR MOD NOTES**

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    #692
    WilyCoyote
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    Three cheers for Caitlin McBride. "Can we please stop talking about Garth Brooks now":

    http://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/caitlin-mcbride-can-we-please-stop-talking-about-garth-brooks-now-30418817.html


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    #693
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    WilyCoyote wrote: »
    Three cheers for Caitlin McBride. "Can we please stop talking about Garth Brooks now":

    http://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/caitlin-mcbride-can-we-please-stop-talking-about-garth-brooks-now-30418817.html

    Yet the front page of the website she writes for is dominated by stories on Brooks.


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    #694
    tigger123
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    Red Nissan wrote: »
    Garth made the decision himself. Hes has many interviews answering that question.

    Has he given any answer outside of the 'Sophie's Choice' defence?


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    #695
    Rasheed
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    ankaragucu wrote: »
    I still dont know WHY the 3 concerts that were granted licences are not going ahead?
    Aiken, GAA and DCC all showed either greed, ineptitude or both.But why arent people asking GARTH BROOKS why he is not playing 3 concerts for which 240,000 tickets have been sold???
    No one has given a straight answer to this.
    His 5 concerts or none at all threat doesnt wash.Is he insisting on playing 5 shows or non at all in all the cities on his world tour.
    The whole thing has been a croc of sh1te.

    He reckons he wouldn't make money only doing three. Apparently when the 5 was planned, they put the profit for the first three concerts into lights, sound, cameras etc to make it 'extra special'. That's the line he's going with anyway.


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    #696
    ZeroThreat
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    They should have had Brooks sign on the original agreed 3 before bringing up the prospect of a further 2.


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    #697
    h2005
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    Nobody comes out of this looking well but Brooks really comes across as a petulant prick!


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    #698
    allibastor
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    ZeroThreat wrote: »
    They should have had Brooks sign on the original agreed 3 before bringing up the prospect of a further 2.

    You would imagine that they did this, but it was all subject to licence, so maybe he just back out before they were fully granted.

    Its a mad set-up, but to be fair, I used to work in Drumcondra and anytime after a gig or a match the place looked like Baghdad after the US got here. There was never any sign of Aiken promotions doing a clean up the morning after.


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    #699
    Tea 1000
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Yet the front page of the website she writes for is dominated by stories on Brooks.
    Probably why she wrote her article. She isn't the editor you know!


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    #700
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    Tea 1000 wrote: »
    Probably why she wrote her article. She isn't the editor you know!

    Still a pointless exercise if the publication she works for continues to write about it.


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    #701
    anncoates
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    In hindsight, the GAA were silly to massively develop Croke Park to the extent that they did in such a dense inner city residential area.

    I can understand that Jones Road is of historical significance to them - and to be fair, culturally to the nation itself - but they should just have kept part of it as a museum, made a huge buck on the rest of the land and got out to the suburbs where they would have had the space to do what they want.

    A site in West Dublin within reasonable distance of the M50 would have been perfect for access from all over the country and the airport as well.

    Redeveloping a gigantic stadium in such area is out of keeping with the trends elsewhere where a lot of clubs have got out of - or are seeking to - constricted inner city residential areas.

    Plus I'm open to contradiction but 8 massive events a year on top of a sports schedule would be pretty intense by the standards of any European stadium of similar size surely?

    Add the fact that the GAA are hellbent on ruthlessly increasing the non-sports revenue generated by Croke Park and their historical disdain for any group - community or otherwise - that doesn't buy into their 'vision' and it's just a recipe for disaster.

    And it's finally unraveling for them as Ireland's slow painful progress into social modernity means that establishment bodies are becoming less inclined to blindly kowtow to their demands.


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    #702
    Cienciano
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    ankaragucu wrote: »
    I still dont know WHY the 3 concerts that were granted licences are not going ahead?
    Aiken, GAA and DCC all showed either greed, ineptitude or both.But why arent people asking GARTH BROOKS why he is not playing 3 concerts for which 240,000 tickets have been sold???
    No one has given a straight answer to this.
    His 5 concerts or none at all threat doesnt wash.Is he insisting on playing 5 shows or non at all in all the cities on his world tour.
    The whole thing has been a croc of sh1te.
    The answer to that is (to put it bluntly) that Garth Brooks is an arséhole. You're not hearing it because the media are fairly one sided on this,and the people who are shouting loudest about this are Garth Brooks fans - who are in denial that their hero might be a bit of an arsehole.
    2 of my favourite bands are Pink Floyd and The Beatles. It's not hard for me to admit that John Lennon and Roger Waters are arseholes.


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    #703
    Fred Swanson
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    #704
    Muahahaha
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    Woman on Liveline now said she queued up for two nights on the streets when the first two gigs were announced. She was two people from the top of the queue and the gigs sold out. So she went home to hear an announcement of more concerts and immediately queued up for a further 4 nights to get her tickets.

    Six days and nights of your life sleeping rough on a street. Incredible.


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    #705
    Dayor Knight
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    AlekSmart wrote: »
    I reckon Tommy's half-brother,Paddy O'Gorman would make a better fist of it......particularly when there are poor downtrodden,discriminated against,folk (and their children) to consider...;)

    "What about all the poor children ..... and the line dancers?"


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    #706
    JP Liz V1
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    Fred Swanson wrote: »
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    #707
    Red Nissan
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    Cienciano wrote: »
    The answer to that is (to put it bluntly) that Garth Brooks is an arséhole.

    He is a creative eccentric. He is not alone, there is a long, long, long. list of top selling world dominating artists who fit the description, in fact it seems to be a recipe to succeed, perhaps Daniel O'Donnell exempted.

    Going off Brooks, we had a very talented artist who won the Chelsea Garden Gold Medal a few years back, he turned down millions in potential fees because he had a row with Cork City Council over his Sky Garden.

    He was right, he has his principles whilst others thought differently.

    Artists are like that, usually the more successful the more eccentric.


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    #708
    Spring Onion
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    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Woman on Liveline now said she queued up for two nights on the streets when the first two gigs were announced. She was two people from the top of the queue and the gigs sold out. So she went home to hear an announcement of more concerts and immediately queued up for a further 4 nights to get her tickets.

    Six days and nights of your life sleeping rough on a street. Incredible.

    She were lucky...we were evicted from our hole in the ground; we had to go and live in a lake.


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    #709
    Tea 1000
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    Fred Swanson wrote: »
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    For some it's because of the better chance of getting tickets. If you have decent broadband then you have a small chance of getting a result from the ticketmaster site when there's a high demand concert. If you have crap or no broadband, you have no chance. If you are first in the queue at a shop then you have a good chance, if not a guaranteed chance.
    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Woman on Liveline now said she queued up for two nights on the streets when the first two gigs were announced. She was two people from the top of the queue and the gigs sold out. So she went home to hear an announcement of more concerts and immediately queued up for a further 4 nights to get her tickets.

    Six days and nights of your life sleeping rough on a street. Incredible.
    You mean some shop out there only got enough tickets for 2 people and no one in the rest of the queue got anything?


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    #710
    Bravobabe
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    Fred Swanson wrote: »
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    Sometimes (when demand is high) you can't get tickets online.
    Some people have really bad broadband
    Hence - if you queue and get their early, you get your tickets.

    However - I do agree with you, why queue in bad weather to give away your money.
    Always wonder why people queued up for nearly a week to save a few hundred quid in the January sales. I would pay a few hundred quiq to stay in a warm bed


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    #711
    Tea 1000
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    Spring Onion wrote: »
    She were lucky...we were evicted from our hole in the ground; we had to go and live in a lake.
    You were lucky to have a LAKE! There were a hundred and sixty of us living in a small shoebox in the middle of the road.


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    #712
    Maximus Alexander
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    Tea 1000 wrote: »
    You mean some shop out there only got enough tickets for 2 people and no one in the rest of the queue got anything?

    Not sure if serious...

    Presumably the OP means that queue had progressed to the point that there were only two people left in front of her by the time that the tickets ran out.


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    #713
    Muahahaha
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    Cienciano wrote: »
    The answer to that is (to put it bluntly) that Garth Brooks is an arséhole. You're not hearing it because the media are fairly one sided on this,and the people who are shouting loudest about this are Garth Brooks fans - who are in denial that their hero might be a bit of an arsehole.
    2 of my favourite bands are Pink Floyd and The Beatles. It's not hard for me to admit that John Lennon and Roger Waters are arseholes.

    Exactly. I'm a huge Pink Floyd fan but I'm the first to admit that Roger Waters is an arsehole and the main reason why I've never gotten to see the entire band perform. But as a musician he's one of the best the world has ever seen. I separate the musican from the person, one is a genius, the other is a dick.
    Red Nissan wrote: »
    He is a creative eccentric. He is not alone, there is a long, long, long. list of top selling world dominating artists who fit the description, in fact it seems to be a recipe to succeed, perhaps Daniel O'Donnell exempted.

    Going off Brooks, we had a very talented artist who won the Chelsea Garden Gold Medal a few years back, he turned down millions in potential fees because he had a row with Cork City Council over his Sky Garden.

    He was right, he has his principles whilst others thought differently.

    Artists are like that, usually the more successful the more eccentric.

    Ah come on the creative eccentric argument isn't going to fit here. He's Garth Brooks the cowboy from Tulsa, Oklahoma, he's no Vincent Van Gogh.


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    Fred Swanson
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    #715
    That_Girl_ Is_ A_Cowboy
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    Muahahaha wrote: »
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    Yeah I just hope for Aikens sake that he doesn't fall out with Brooks on this. Both of them are seriously out of pocket here so if Brooks launches a legal action for his costs of assembling the show and stage, pyrotechnics, etc then it could put Aiken in a real spot of bother. From what I'm reading. Brooks had employed the services of a production company who had worked on a few Super Bowl shows and other large scale razzmatazz events. By all accounts it sounds like what Brooks had planned for his comeback special was indeed massive.
    I doubt Brooks will sue Aiken for non performance of 5 dates but still things are on shaky ground. If Brooks announces a World Tour tomorrow and there is no mention of Ireland or Irish dates then I'd be fearful for what the fallout between them could be.



    True. But I'm guessing many of them won't care. They'll easily take the money for double or triple times the room rate and then watch people cancel so they can re-sell the room again. Not all hotels will do this but some will, enough to leave a very sour taste in the mouth for many.


    Mr Brooks would I imagine be very p1ssed off as to how things have worked. For years he sang Ireland's praises and even did a song called - Ireland. From all the countries in the world, he picked us for his precursor for his world tour. He would have spent months looking forward to this and preparing for this, just for it came to nothing.

    I'm afraid


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    #716
    end of the road
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    Tarzana wrote: »
    Then it's good they complained, isn't it?
    no, they have caused problems for their whole community and caused the country to lose out on millions

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #717
    Tea 1000
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    Maximus Alexander wrote: »
    Not sure if serious...

    Presumably the OP means that queue had progressed to the point that there were only two people left in front of her by the time that the tickets ran out.
    Two people from the top of the queue doesn't mean two people away from getting tickets to me! But maybe.
    Robert2012 wrote: »
    Ah, but we had it tough!
    You try to tell that to young people nowadays and they won't believe you! :)


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    #718
    Maximus Alexander
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    Fred Swanson wrote: »
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    I don't believe this is the case. My understanding is that a TM outlet will have a particular number of tickets allocated that are not available online.
    Tea 1000 wrote: »
    Two people from the top of the queue doesn't mean two people away from getting tickets to me! But maybe.

    The top of the queue would be whoever is next to be served at a given time?


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    #719
    paddyirish23
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    Tea 1000 wrote: »
    For some it's because of the better chance of getting tickets. If you have decent broadband then you have a small chance of getting a result from the ticketmaster site when there's a high demand concert. If you have crap or no broadband, you have no chance. If you are first in the queue at a shop then you have a good chance, if not a guaranteed chance.

    You mean some shop out there only got enough tickets for 2 people and no one in the rest of the queue got anything?

    Ya Limerick had trouble with their machine so by the time they got going thru only sold to about 10 or 15 ppl which is why he put on a fourth gig he didn't want anyone to miss out guess he stuck to his guns from the start


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    #720
    Cienciano
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    Fred Swanson wrote: »
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    I'd imagine most of them are older people that don't use the internet.


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    #721
    Tea 1000
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    Maximus Alexander wrote: »
    I don't believe this is the case. My understanding is that a TM outlet will have a particular number of tickets allocated that are not available online.



    The top of the queue would be whoever is next to be served at a given time?
    We'll have to get onto Joe and get her back on the line!


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