Garth Brooks concerts cancelled - **READ FIRST POST FOR MOD NOTES**

end of the road

dharma200 wrote: »

I wonder who's account all the funds were 'resting' in during this time.. a nice tidy sum of interest accrued.....
apart from that.. the residents have every right.
The only thing embarrassing in this whole thing is the people queuing up for tickets.
I hope he never sets foot in ireland and that all his music is from now on banned.....

other residents disagree, way over the top its only some music no need for it to be banned just because an artist decides all his fans see him or none

Greenmachine

Skylinehead wrote: »

That's ridiculous.

"Here lads, we know your daily lives are a bit messed up with these concerts, so do you want to be shacked up in a hotel in Carlow for a week?"

Yup forget about getting to work having friends over, going about your daily business.

The Royal Scam

Skylinehead wrote: »

That's ridiculous.

"Here lads, we know your daily lives are a bit messed up with these concerts, so do you want to be shacked up in a hotel in Carlow for a week?"

Whats wrong with Carlow laad!!

Happyman42

end of the road wrote: »

other residents disagree, way over the top its only some music no need for it to be banned just because an artist decides all his fans see him or none

I said it before, trying to sort out the dispute with the residents and Croke Park on the basis of this one gig is not going to work.
If the country has learned anything from this exploding, it is that there is a long running issue that has come to a head here, primarily because of greed and a venue and promoter who think that they can just bully their way through.
Croke Park has shot themselves in the foot massively here and it is also clear that the GAA is divided between corporate concerns, where the bottom line is god and a community based organisation.

end of the road

Happyman42 wrote: »

Because they are the people who make the decisions in the best interests of themselves?

That wasn't good enough for the GAA and the promotors though, they thought they (and still do obviously) think they could have offered a solution that would mean they could have got on their way to 5 nights.

fixed

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller

Happyman42 wrote: »

That wasn't good enough for the greedy though, they thought they (and still do obviously) could bluster and bully their way to 5 nights.

It's not greedy to want to see all the people who have bought tickets, get to see you perform.

Brooks and Aiken are both very rich men ffs. Quit with this absurdity that behind the scenes their rubbing their hands in Mr.Burns like fashion.

You could power Pat Kenny's funny looking motorbike for a year with the amount of wasted energy that has gone into posting the unjust cynicism in this thread.

Donkey Oaty

They've tried the hotel thing before for people in similar situations, and it seems to have worked quite well.

Happyman42

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller wrote: »

It's not greedy to want to see all the people who have bought tickets, get to see you perform.

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What do Brooks and Aitken do about people who can't get tickets for other sold out shows?

h2005

Happyman42 wrote: »

I said it before, trying to sort out the dispute with the residents and Croke Park on the basis of this one gig is not going to work.
If the country has learned anything from this exploding, it is that there is a long running issue that has come to a head here, primarily because of greed and a venue and promoter who think that they can just bully their way through.
Croke Park has shot themselves in the foot massively here and it is also clear that the GAA is divided between corporate concerns, where the bottom line is god and a community based organisation.

A number of the residents aren't without fault here either.

vitani

onlyme! wrote: »

"It is with great regret that Aiken Promotions today announce that the 5 concert Garth Brooks Comeback Special Event at Croke Park has been cancelled. No concerts will take place. The ticket return process will be outlined tomorrow. Aiken Promotions have exhausted all avenues regarding the staging of this event. We are very disappointed for the 400,000 fans who purchased tickets for The Garth Brooks Comeback Special Event

It might just be me but 'The Garth Brooks Comeback Special Event' is the worst name for a series of concerts I've ever heard. I can't take it seriously at all.

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller

Happyman42 wrote: »

What do Brooks and Aitken do about people who can't get tickets for other sold out shows?

Ah here now..

There's a big difference between not being able to get tickets for a show because it is sold out.. and actually having tickets for a few months, perhaps arranging time off, booking flights, hotels etc.. and then finding out three weeks before the date, that it's been cancelled.

end of the road

Happyman42 wrote: »

I said it before, trying to sort out the dispute with the residents and Croke Park on the basis of this one gig is not going to work.
If the country has learned anything from this exploding, it is that there is a long running issue that has come to a head here, primarily because of greed and a venue and promoter who think that they can just bully their way through.
Croke Park has shot themselves in the foot massively here and it is also clear that the GAA is divided between corporate concerns, where the bottom line is god and a community based organisation.

the GAA bullied nobody, it was the few vocal residents bullying the GAA and the country

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller

vitani wrote: »

It might just be me but 'The Garth Brooks Comeback Special Event' is the worst name for a series of concerts I've ever heard. I can't take it seriously at all.

I'm sure that was just a working title.

gandalf

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller wrote: »

I'm sure that was just a working title.

Sure now its known as the "Toys out of the pram tour"

Ace2007

end of the road wrote: »

other residents disagree, way over the top its only some music no need for it to be banned just because an artist decides all his fans see him or none

I see you disappeared yesterday when the news was announced, have you apologised yet to everyone in the last thread that just proved you wrong?

end of the road wrote: »

the current city manager deserves to be over ruled, keep over ruling his decisians and he might quit with a bit of luck

You seem to think one person made the decision.

end of the road wrote: »

other residents disagree, way over the top its only some music no need for it to be banned just because an artist decides all his fans see him or none

Pity these residence didn't turn up to all the meeting during the last 6 months and make their feelings known - they would just outvote the ones in disagreement if you believe that the majority have no problem.

Happyman42

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller wrote: »

Ah here now..

There's a big difference between not being able to get tickets for a show because it is sold out.. and actually having tickets for a few months, perhaps arranging time off, booking flights, hotels etc.. and then finding out three weeks before the date, that it's been cancelled.

And whose fault is that?
The possibility that it would be less than 5 was there from very early on. Aitken went ahead selling tickets and tbh fans bought them even though there was controversy from the get go. Buyer beware....SUBJECT TO LICENCE.

lazygal

I never knew his first name was Troyal. You do learn something new every day. Troyal. Troyal.

curioser

Santa Cruz wrote: »

This gentleman lives a minutes walk from O Connell St in North Cumberland St where the old labour exchange used be.

This was a naked attempt to gouge money out of Aiken and/or GAA. Otherwise he would have included DCC in the proceedings. He banked on the parties throwing him a fistful to withdraw the injunction application, then GB shot the strategy to pieces by pulling the plug. Wonder what his legal reps will charge him for initiating the proceedings - hope it sickens him TBH.

Ace2007

end of the road wrote: »

the GAA bullied nobody, it was the few vocal residents bullying the GAA and the country

They broke their agreement with the residence.

In the last 6 months they have not once come out and publically denied such an agreement exists when ever media organisations reports on it - now I wonder why that is?

I love the way you think a few people stopped the concert - when a few posts before it was the DCC. The fact of the matter GB choice cancelled the concerts.

Grandeeod

Does anyone on this thread actually understand the demographics of the recorded objectors? (the 373 odd that actually submitted their objections to DCC including the possible fakes)

Im no GB fan and I find some of the economic statistical guff very nauseating, but I also find the "new Ireland, we do it the right way now" ****e equally nauseating. Its as if these concerts have unleashed our perpetual insecurities. In one camp we have those that are scared ****less about damaging our "reputation" abroad. In the other camp we have the "new Irish" who are heralding the DCC decision as a bone fide example of how Ireland is not corrupt anymore. Both sides are as deluded as each other.

This charade and that's what it is, has been fuelled by the mainstream media and social media as the blame game gets engulfed in social justice. Personally I do not believe the level of objection in the local area was sufficient enough to ultimately bring us to where we are now. But it did. We can talk all day about the GAA and DCC and the promoter and the fact that GB fuelled it even more with all this bull about all 5 or none. At the end of the day the GAA were entitled to apply for a license and that had nothing to do with any agreement. The real problem here is a serious issue that must exist between a small number of residents and the GAA. That's what needs exploring and i believe the answers lie there.

bryangiggsy

Am calling it here now. Common sense will prevail and a way will be found for the 5 shows to go ahead. Im not a fan. I dont have tickets. Too much money involved too many stakeholders going to lose out. The country is debt ridden. Time for Enda to stand up and grow a set. The residents will get over it.

onlyme!

What has dunphy and the rest of the panel have to say about all this ....anyone?

Tipsy McSwagger

bryangiggsy wrote: »

Am calling it here now. Common sense will prevail and a way will be found for the 5 shows to go ahead. Im not a fan. I dont have tickets. Too much money involved too many stakeholders going to lose out. The country is debt ridden. Time for Enda to stand up and grow a set. The residents will get over it.

These concerts would have absolutely zero bearing on our national debt.

cmac2009

bryangiggsy wrote: »

Am calling it here now. Common sense will prevail and a way will be found for the 5 shows to go ahead. Im not a fan. I dont have tickets. Too much money involved too many stakeholders going to lose out. The country is debt ridden. Time for Enda to stand up and grow a set. The residents will get over it.

Yeah get the Taoiseach involved, it's surely important enough. God almighty this country is unbelievable at times.

Sala

bryangiggsy wrote: »

Am calling it here now. Common sense will prevail and a way will be found for the 5 shows to go ahead. Im not a fan. I dont have tickets. Too much money involved too many stakeholders going to lose out. The country is debt ridden. Time for Enda to stand up and grow a set. The residents will get over it.

He doesn't have the power to do that.

Donkey Oaty

onlyme! wrote: »

What has dunphy and the rest of the panel have to say about all this ....anyone?

I don't know, but I'm sure it will be deep, thought-provoking and completely at odds with what actually happens in the stadium.

slimjimmc

Grandeeod wrote: »

Does anyone on this thread actually understand the demographics of the recorded objectors? (the 373 odd that actually submitted their objections to DCC including the possible fakes)

Apparently it was 373 odd submissions rather than objectors, I don't know how many people were party to those submissions but I gather from the previous thread that many of the submissions were submitted on behalf of multiple persons.

Grayson

end of the road wrote: »

the GAA bullied nobody, it was the few vocal residents bullying the GAA and the country

Name one time in the last 30 years where a planning authority of any sort have allowed 5 concerts of that size to be held on consecutive nights in Ireland.

Or anything close to that.

bryangiggsy

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

These concerts would have absolutely zero bearing on our national debt.

Did i say that ?! No !! But 50 million in this day and age should not be pi$$ed away... Coz a few residents have the hump

Welsh Megaman