Garth Brooks concerts cancelled - **READ FIRST POST FOR MOD NOTES**

ardle1

What is wrong with poster AngryHippie?
you do know you don't have to live like your 'user name'....
Yeeeeeeeeeee-Hawwwwwwwww

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller

AngryHippie wrote: »

It's not about maths.

Really? But yet you go on to throw out numbers

The superbowl is a one day event planned from 2 years in advance, there are multiple tender processes involved in staging it, it is the single largest sporting event in the USA, with hundreds of millions watching it live across the world.

Well, millions would be watching these gigs also, as they were to be part of a HBO Pay Per View special and also it was to be released on DVD. Garth had also hired a producer with great experience to produce the 5 nights who had in fact produced a... SUPERBOWL!

The president of the USA is normally in attendance (which in itself is a bigger deal, security operation alone, than a Garth Brooks Concert).

Sure Enda would be coming up to see Garth, he wouldn't miss it. He's a massive fan.

This on the other hand is 5 nights in a row of concert-goers (Good chance a proportion of them will be pissed) ..

And Americans don't drink??

The superbowl, it is not.

Nah. It's bigger. 7% of our population was due to attend.

Wrongway1985

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller wrote: »

It's high time people stopped acting like the this is all about some gig in the Academy or something.

That's one of the sad things actually artists playing the academy and similar are most likely striving to make a living out of music, this cowboy is in a lucky position to be able to send 240,000 ticket holders for the licenced gigs away not a bother.

Yes the whole thing is a shambles but people who wouldn't get off their bum to vote or protest the jobs crisis, countless charges and bonuses for the boyos while the country is on its knees, come out in force to threaten to p**s in some residents gardens because they objected to gigs.

The Dublin City council made the decision not to grant licences not the few residents who objected.

It was worth a potential 50m, yeah 50m we never had! What about the millions we did have?? The millions wasted, millions borrowed?

visual

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

That's one of the sad things actually artists playing the academy and similar are most likely striving to make a living out of music, this cowboy is in a lucky position to be able to send 240,000 ticket holders for the licenced gigs away not a bother.

Yes the whole thing is a shambles but people who wouldn't get off their bum to vote or protest the jobs crisis, countless charges and bonuses for the boyos while the country is on its knees, come out in force to threaten to p**s in some residents gardens because they objected to gigs.

The Dublin City council made the decision not to grant licences not the few residents who objected.

It was worth a potential 50m, yeah 50m we never had! What about the millions we did have?? The millions wasted, millions borrowed?

all through the crises our political leaders kept calling billions millions

AngryHippie

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller wrote: »

Really? But yet you go on to throw out numbers

Well, millions would be watching these gigs also, as they were to be part of a HBO Pay Per View special and also it was to be released on DVD. Garth had also hired a producer with great experience to produce the 5 nights who had in fact produced a... SUPERBOWL!

Sure Enda would be coming up to see Garth, he wouldn't miss it. He's a massive fan.

And Americans don't drink??

Nah. It's bigger. 7% of our population was due to attend.

Its not bigger, to say it is bigger than the superbowl, is too suggest that it is bigger than the last 5 superbowls. as it is 5 distinct and separate events (or 3, if they had manners in the first place)

There is a substantial difference between the Taoiseach of our little republic, and POTUS, if you can't tell the difference, then I'm not even sure you're worth engaging on this one. DO you remember Clinton's visits ? (camera inspections of sewers, manholes being welded shut, hundreds of members of a security force [note FORCE, not team] air support and months of surveillance and planning, just for a visit)

As for the fact that GB has hired a former superbowl producer, what has that got to do with anything ? If he can produce a superbowl, he could do this standing on his head, and if he had been put in charge of it from start to finish, it might even be going ahead, instead, there are promoters, local council, faux cowboys, the taoiseach, the GAA, and of course the 7% of our population, (some of whom have resorted to death threats to get their own way) all pedaling in different directions because the whole thing is a shamozzle and nobody wants to be blamed for it when they can't make it work.

It boils down to a point I raised much earlier, GB could have respectfully accepted permission to run 3, or 4 concerts without any of this horse****e coming to pass, instead he let his ego run away with him, and now has his publicist banging on about his broken heart to maintain the support of his line dancing chequer wearing faux cowboy brigade so he can get his own way.

He is laughing at the whole thing. He doesn't give a sh1t if its Croke park or Candlestick park as long as he gets his way, and he gets paid.
Wait until he writes a song about it and 400,000 suckers rush out and buy it, I suppose you'll be banging on about how he supports the record industry then ?

I'm just waiting for Christie Moore to get involved, remember the little debacle over the Curragh ?

Its a pantomime, only there are 400,000 horses ar$es and no head

Cookie_Monster

AngryHippie wrote: »

It's not about maths.

The superbowl is a one day event planned from 2 years in advance, there are multiple tender processes involved in staging it, it is the single largest sporting event in the USA, with hundreds of millions watching it live across the world

Superbowl is not a big event crowd wise and a poor comparison.
Daytona has 400,000 people attend it, Kentucky derby gets 165k, US open 175k and even something like the Tour of California would gather more people than a superbowl.

If we're talking about adding in TV may as well let Garth play in his living room and just beam it around the world...

AngryHippie

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

Superbowl is not a big event crowd wise and a poor comparison.
Daytona has 400,000 people attend it, Kentucky derby gets 165k, US open 175k and even something like the Tour of California would gather more people than a superbowl.

If we're talking about adding in TV may as well let Garth play in his living room and just beam it around the world...

Thank you !!!!

(I wasn't the one that brought the superbowl into it btw. I was merely pointing out that the logistics of a Garth Brooks concert do not stack up against the major sporting events, even if they may share a producer from time to time, but the events themselves are very different)

Duck's hoop

AngryHippie wrote: »

DO you remember Clinton's visits ? (camera inspections of sewers, manholes being welded shut, hundreds of members of a security force [note FORCE, not team] air support and months of surveillance and planning, just for a visit)

Haven't we had Obama much more recently?

Jamsiek

Zaylee Thundering Soda wrote: »

I'm sure a judge could be 'encouraged' to throw out any challenge fairly sharpish!

A judge can only follow the law not what he thinks is the right thing to do.
The law would need to be changed first

Jamsiek

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

- People who were planning on travelling up from the country will no longer need a hotel. So thats wasted.
- Restaurants lose out.
- Bars too.
- Also public transport.

It is not just the gig. Businesses lose out too. So there is a loss to the economy.

If the money us in the country anyway it shouldn't make much difference.
Money going in from abroad would be a different story though

Jamsiek

Strazdas wrote: »

And 70,000 people from abroad were coming in for the gigs

Many if these 70,000 will be from Northern Ireland that booked through the UK website and will be busing in and out.

Tail Docker

I have a feeling that the share price of Ballinamuck Cowboy-hat Importers Ltd is set for a nosedive..

pc7

Too many posts over night to read them all, was this posted? Guy who lodged high court complaint was paid 15k by people north and south of border, mad stuff ted. http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/resident-was-paid-15000-to-help-his-court-case-30420588.html

AngryHippie

pc7 wrote: »

Too many posts over night to read them all, was this posted? Guy who lodged high court complaint was paid 15k by people north and south of border, mad stuff ted. http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/resident-was-paid-15000-to-help-his-court-case-30420588.html

Posted, discussed at length.;)

efb

So all the planning tribunals have thought us nothing, we get the country we deserve. Short term gain trumps every time in Ireland. Rip up planning laws, or have a figure above which they can be routinely ignored...

Mrs Garth Brooks

pc7 wrote: »

Too many posts over night to read them all, was this posted? Guy who lodged high court complaint was paid 15k by people north and south of border, mad stuff ted. http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/resident-was-paid-15000-to-help-his-court-case-30420588.html

Sickening stuff

pc7

AngryHippie wrote: »

Posted, discussed at length.;)

Sorry I'll grab a coffee and read back, mods remove if needed.

Red Nissan

What a story lads, we knew it was bigger than a mere concert, didn't we.

Man who drops legal action is in fear of being shot from an insider mafia gang of GAA and other affiliates in a plot to bring down the GAA.

Is now in hiding and fearing for his life from all parties involved, not least his employers and mobs of disappointed fans who were planning on invading Dublin.

Anybody who may have got a whiff of this would have had no choice but to withdraw pronto.

AMAZING STUFF ALTOGETHER.

It was never about the concerts.
It was never about the residents.
It was never against Garth Brooks.

SENSATIONAL.

mikemac1

Why is the Taoiseach getting involved?

Reminds me of Bertie offering to be a mediator and issueing statements when Keane walked out of training camp in Saipan

jack presley

mikemac1 wrote: »

Why is the Taoiseach getting involved?

Reminds me of Bertie offering to be a mediator and issueing statements when Keane walked out of training camp in Saipan

Not just him but according to Christy Burke on Morning Ireland the Mexican ambassador is involved now and the residents in favour of the gigs are writing to Obama to get him to do something.

Just when you think it couldn't get more embarrassing or farcical.

Phoebas

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

The leader of the COUNTRY is stepping in to try and make this concerts happen, can you imagine Barack Obama or David Camaron doing something like that? I can't because it wouldn't ever happen.

Don't worry - Obama is on the way!

Indo wrote:

Mr Burke also revealed that the Mexican Ambassador to Ireland has offered to mediate, and that a group of residents from Ballybough in Dublin intended to contact US President Barack Obama over the issue.

I can't believe that the UN are just sitting on their hands on this.

efb

Can Pope Francis do anything?

Mrs Garth Brooks

Red Nissan wrote: »

What a story lads, we knew it was bigger than a mere concert, didn't we.

Man who drops legal action is in fear of being shot from an insider mafia gang of GAA and other affiliates in a plot to bring down the GAA.

Is now in hiding and fearing for his life from all parties involved, not least his employers and mobs of disappointed fans who were planning on invading Dublin.

Anybody who may have got a whiff of this would have had no choice but to withdraw pronto.

AMAZING STUFF ALTOGETHER.

It was never about the concerts.
It was never about the residents.
It was never against Garth Brooks.

SENSATIONAL.

Now he'll have his GAA buddies on his back for dropping the injunction. The fcuking loser.

gerbilgranny

If the Pope can't fix it - maybe Simon Cowell?

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

I think its very silly that they are trying to pressure enda kenny to intervene and try and make the concerts go ahead.

I also think its very silly enda is getting involved in something so cynical and wasting government time over this muck when he could be doing something useful.

cournioni

mikemac1 wrote: »

Why is the Taoiseach getting involved?

Reminds me of Bertie offering to be a mediator and issueing statements when Keane walked out of training camp in Saipan

Probably because one tenth of the population of Ireland would be contributing a great amount to the economy of Ireland over the course of the Garth Brooks concerts. A large amount of it coming from people abroad. If 400,000 people spend on average €150 that is €60m pumped into the local economy, providing jobs etc. If we take it that tax will be taken from it at 23% then that is €13.8m tax directly from it on top of employment etc.

Some people may turn their noses up at it saying yeah but that's 0.0003% of GDP etc. It's still a contribution!! It's better than the current situation where everybody is out money and some of the foreign visitors don't return, advising their friends and family not to bother with Ireland because they're left high and dry with flights and a hotel booked for the gig.

Very different from Saipan, and I am no fan of Kenny.

Sunnyisland

Phoebas wrote: »

Don't worry - Obama is on the way!


I can't believe that the UN are just sitting on their hands on this.

Hope the Israelis don't get involved...

And and Hamas and and and Iran and how will N Korea react ????

pc7

Wonder will revenue take an interest in the 15k gift resting in that guys account

Red Nissan

pc7 wrote: »

Wonder will revenue take an interest in the 15k gift resting in that guys account

That's a clinch in the story.

Phoebas

pc7 wrote: »

Wonder will revenue take an interest in the 15k gift resting in that guys account

Doesn't fall into CAT thresholds; would be subject to DIRT.
What's your point?