Garth Brooks concerts cancelled - **READ FIRST POST FOR MOD NOTES**

DrumSteve

dandyo wrote: »

Kato - Where will he appear next?

MAde me laugh more than it should have.

FTA69

EricPraline wrote: »

If you look beyond the wall-to-wall clickbait coverage in the Irish media, you'll see that it was a minor novelty/entertainment story reported in a handful of sources abroad. Not quite a global fiasco. If anything, this story reenforces Ireland's strange lack of perspective about it's place in the world. They're actually not all looking at us.

What are you talking about man? It was actually a running tagline all night during the World Cup semi-final. Messi made a statement about it afterward and pledged Argentina's upcoming victory to the people of Ireland who are suffering at this time.

Similarly Hamas and Israel have decided on a ceasefire until Enda gets a hold of Garth. In the meantime the people of Gaza are undertaking a collection from their UN food rations to support ticket-holders who have lost everything.

Mrs Garth Brooks

dandyo wrote: »

I was only going to see Shane Filan - met him in the Job Market, seems like a nice lad

At least you wouldnt get all this hassle and you'll be able to enjoy your night.

I dont know anymore. Want a refund instead

lee_baby_simms

dandyo wrote: »

I was only going to see Shane Filan - met him in the Job Market, seems like a nice lad

Shane Filan...for bankruptcy.

zl1whqvjs75cdy

Should we get the Troika back to sort this? Or the UN maybe? Bill CLinton can't be up to much either someone get on the blower there.

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller

seamus wrote: »

And Aiken/the GAA simply up the price of everything at the event to cover their fine.

I also said they should banned from holding concerts there for however long is deemed appropriate.

The 160,000 people who bought tickets are not DCC's problem. DCC didn't force Aiken to sell the tickets without the licence in place.

ALL tickets in this country are sold without a bloody licence. That's part of the problem.

Aiken was perfectly aware of the 12 week lead time yet he didn't even apply for the licence until 3 months after the dates had been announced.

He couldn't. You seem blissfully unaware that the system which is in place makes it all but impossible to apply for licences that early, as you need to make sure that you can convince the planning authorities that you have every eventuality covered, such as safety of rigging, stage, lighting etc etc etc etc and so that it is part of why Aiken was in disucssions LONG before the licence applications and at no point during this time, was he, nor the GAA, given the impression that they would not be granted the licences.

I don't see why DCC have any obligation to fast-track applications or break the rules here. Aiken fncked up. Nobody else. He was likely employing his own strongarming tactics - applying for the licences super-late in the hope that DCC wouldn't have the balls to turn them down so close to the gig dates.

Tough ****, Aiken, you lost.

That is a complete and utter misrepresentation of what happened. Aiken applied as soon as the preliminary discussions with the DCC were completed. If you are correct, why didn't he wait until the deadline then? Why apply four weeks before it?

dandyo

Dublin needs to split into New Dublin and Old Dublin - The crazy Lord Mayor of Old Dublin needs to arrange Daily Garth Brooks concerts.

lazygal

Harry Palmr wrote: »

This is going to make a brilliant stage farce if someone fancies writing one.

I, Troyal.

Floppybits

the_monkey wrote: »

Why is the Mexican embassador getting involved ??

Sure why not everyone else is getting involved. It is ridiculously embarrassing at this stage.

Happyman42

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller wrote: »

I also said they should banned from holding concerts there for however long is deemed appropriate.



ALL tickets in this country are sold without a bloody licence. That's part of the problem.

He couldn't. You seem blissfully unaware that the system which is in place makes it all but impossible to apply for licences that early, as you need to make sure that you can convince the planning authorities that you have every eventuality covered, such as safety of rigging, stage, lighting etc etc etc etc and so that it is part of why Aiken was in disucssions LONG before the licence applications and at no point during this time, was he, nor the GAA, given the impression that they would not be granted the licences.



That is a complete and utter misrepresentation of what happened. Aiken applied as soon as the preliminary discussions with the DCC were completed. If you are correct, why didn't he wait until the deadline then? Why apply four weeks before it?

Why are you accepting Aiken's and the GAA's word for all this? The DCC are on record as saying that they told the promoter from the get go that they had problems with 5 nights.
'Subject to Licence' works fine for other promoters like MCD and Lord Mountcharles.
The attempt to steamroll everybody into 5 nights is the problem with this application, anybody with sense can see that.

Francie Barrett

This is getting ridiculous now.

Indo wrote:

Mr Burke also told Morning Ireland that the Mexican ambassador has offered his help in the matter and that a group of Dublin residents intend to call on the assistance of president Barack Obama.

The whole thing is becoming a full-blown international incident!

ThisRegard

Here's crazy Christy with the Mexican ambassador and another chap, the 2 lads are looking as each other wondering what the hell is going on while Christy tries to start a verse of the Aul Triangle.

https://twitter.com/LordMayorDublin/status/486546036367048704/photo/1

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller

the_monkey wrote: »

Why is the Mexican embassador getting involved ??

Do you have any idea how many Tacos could be sold if these concerts go ahead?!?

cournioni

seamus wrote: »

It illustrates the fundamental problem in our system - that local councillors are effectively toothless placeholders. If someone isn't getting satisfaction from their local councillor, they go over their head to a TD and get what they want.

TDs should be legally barred from getting involved in local issues. If you want to make a change locally, get elected locally. If you want to make a change nationally, get elected to the Dail. Until this becomes obvious we'll never get rid of this crap where national representatives get involved in petty local squabbles.

This Brooks thing wasn't embarrassing until the Dail got involved. If anyone was looking for some proof that we're a banana republic, then the Taoiseach intervening in a minor local planning squabble would surely be it.

This isn't just a local issue though, this is a national issue with the huge amount of money involved - a lot of it from abroad. The DCC's handling of this has been just as comical as the other parties involved.

kippy

rossie1977 wrote: »

you would need an all-ireland final replay to generate anywhere near the level of income from just a single brooks concert and then most people would head home straight after the match...that option not really available for most when something ends at 11pm.

this country or dublin city is in no position to be turning their noses up at garth brooks as it currently stands. i was in new orleans in april for wrestlemania which brought 75,000 people into the city and millions in revenue, the city rolled out the red carpet from the minute you stepped off the plane...if it was dublin i would have no doubt we would have thousands of posts on here asking why we are bothering with or spending so much money on fake wrestling :rolleyes:

You wouldnt need a final to cover that number. GAA fans tend to make a weekend of a match, generally have a more diverse age profile and in my opinion will spend a lot more overall than your GB fan.
This country is in no position to bend laws and turn a blind eye as these are the reasons we are in the mess we are in..........

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller

Happyman42 wrote: »

Why are you accepting Aiken's and the GAA's word for all this? The DCC are on record as saying that they told the promoter from the get go that they had problems with 5 nights.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=91208377&postcount=1175

Daith

cournioni wrote: »

This isn't just a local issue though, this is a national issue with the huge amount of money involved - a lot of it from abroad. The DCC's handling of this has been just as comical as the other parties involved.

How so? Because there's alot of money involved planning permission should just be given?

Happyman42

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=91208377&postcount=1175

But you accept that there where discussions about 4 gigs.
Head firmly where the sun don't shine....I give up.

Pumpkinseeds

I really really wish that this would just end. It's embarrassing at this point that the country has gotten it's knickers in such a twist over a fat has been country and western act. People can argue about the loss of potential revenue etc but essentially globally it makes us look like a country of backward gobsh*tes whose biggest national issue is a fcking series of gigs by a has been.

This should not be a political issue, it wouldn't have happened anywhere else and for the love of Jesus, whatever twats have been trying to get Obama to intervene should be horsewhipped:mad: This is making a mockery of the country. Would people please cop the fcuk on and accept that the cancellation is down to Garth Brooks ego.

Seedy Arling

This is our 9/11.

Garth Brooks 2014. Never forget.

snubbleste

Friends in Low Places has been declared the national anthem from midnight tonight. Mandatory line dancing is required at every airing.

ankaragucu

Maybe they should just go for a replacement act at this stage.Say, Chris Gaines?...

Going Forward

Our reputation really is in tatters, first Mrs.Browne, then this fiasco.

Skylinehead

cournioni wrote: »

This isn't just a local issue though, this is a national issue with the huge amount of money involved - a lot of it from abroad. The DCC's handling of this has been just as comical as the other parties involved.

So because money's involved, it's not a local issue?

Terrible logic.

the_monkey

What about TR Dallas ? maybe he can fill in ...

Duckworth_Luas

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

whatever twats have been trying to get Obama to intervene should be horsewhipped:mad:

LOL!!! They'd be the residents of Ballybough, the actual Dubs who live in the area. At the beginning of this fiasco we were told to put their interests first as they're the people living there long term.

cournioni

Daith wrote: »

How so? Because there's alot of money involved planning permission should just be given?

No, because they granted a licence for three nights based on an agreement between local residents and the GAA which outlined that only three non-sporting events could be held per year. The One Direction concert supposedly covered these three non-sporting events according to the DCC yet they still granted a license for three nights, and then a fourth night in private.

If you're going to refuse planning permission for an event for a reason, then stick to that reason. It's either lawful, or its not.

Skylinehead wrote: »

So because money's involved, it's not a local issue?

Terrible logic.

Who said it wasn't a local issue? I said it was a national issue because of the money involved, hence TD's getting involved.

seamus

cournioni wrote: »

This isn't just a local issue though, this is a national issue with the huge amount of money involved - a lot of it from abroad. The DCC's handling of this has been just as comical as the other parties involved.

It's a local issue. The money from abroad will land locally, the planning permission is local, the hotels, the residents, the stadium, all local.
This is not a national issue. It does not materially affect anyone outside of the DCC area.

It would be like a TD getting involved in building a hospital in Kenmare. Oh, wait...

The Backwards Man

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

LOL!!! They'd be the residents of Ballybough, the actual Dubs who live in the area. At the beginning of this fiasco we were told to put their interests first as they're the people living there long term.

Not one person here gives a damn about the residents. This is a Dublin versus country thread.

cournioni

seamus wrote: »

It's a local issue. The money from abroad will land locally, the planning permission is local, the hotels, the residents, the stadium, all local.

No, its a local and a national issue. The tax gained from it isn't just local, the money spent on transporting people to concerts, the ticket agents inter alia. aren't necessarily local.