Tonight With Vincent Browne Thread v 4.0 (08/07/14 to date)

coolhull

It's still early, but but so far this is the least interesting in the series of 'People's Debates'

Lady Chatterton

It was heartbreaking listening to that man who lost his wife last year

Roger_007

MrsD007 wrote: »

It was heartbreaking listening to that man who lost his wife last year

It seems his wife was badly treated by the the staff in the hospital, (those wonderful nurses and doctors that are always being praised). It's time we started laying the blame for poor performance where it's belongs.

Un Croissant

Some of these people WANT to go abroad. It's true. Some don't, but young people want to get out and see the world. That will continue long after the recession

tayto lover

Un Croissant wrote: »

Some of these people WANT to go abroad. It's true. Some don't, but young people want to get out and see the world. That will continue long after the recession

And many of them do not.
Some are leaving elderly or sick parents and wonder if they'll ever see them alive again.

Un Croissant

tayto lover wrote: »

And many of them do not.
Some are leaving elderly or sick parents and wonder if they'll ever see them alive again.

I said that. I feel the same way myself. But I'll definitely go when I'm able, for a while at least.

Atlantic Dawn

hotmail.com wrote: »

Vincent Browne will be presenting live from The George on Saturday between 4 and 6PM for the referendum results.

That should be interesting (and noisy)!

Seriously?

Happyman42

Why are they all sitting at M&S christmas puds?

Un Croissant

Drink it in.

Lady Chatterton

We have a third world healthcare system

A relative of mine has been waiting for over 2.5 years for surgery, they went into hospital this morning for surgery only to be told at 5pm that that their surgery was cancelled :mad:

Roger_007

MrsD007 wrote: »

We have a third world healthcare system

A relative of mine has been waiting for over 2.5 years for surgery, they went into hospital this morning for surgery only to be told at 5pm that that their surgery was cancelled :mad:

The problem is that Irish people want the best of everything while paying for nothing!

Atlantic Dawn

Roger_007 wrote: »

The problem is that Irish people want the best of everything while paying for nothing!

The health budget is paying for the best of everything but getting sh!te.

Lady Chatterton

Roger_007 wrote: »

The problem is that Irish people want the best of everything while paying for nothing!

I'm not sure what you mean?

The person I referred to in my post has been working since they were 16 but couldn't afford to keep their private health insurance when their partner was put on a three day week. They've paid a heavy price for not having private health insurance.

Roger_007

MrsD007 wrote: »

I'm not sure what you mean?

The person I referred to in my post has been working since they were 16 but couldn't afford to keep their private health insurance when their partner was put on a three day week. They've paid a heavy price for not having private health insurance.

There is a particular problem in health whereby the hospital consultants have absolute discretion as to who gets treated or who doesn't. They will always prioritise their private patients over their public patients because it's in their financial interest to do so.
Of course nobody dares to criticise the consultants. They always blame the 'managers' when in fact it is the consultants who ultimately decide who gets treated.

RayM

It seems really weird to give out Social Protection payments in post offices, at the inconvenience of the recipient, for the sole purpose of propping post offices up.

tayto lover

Roger_007 wrote: »

There is a particular problem in health whereby the hospital consultants have absolute discretion as to who gets treated or who doesn't. They will always prioritise their private patients over their public patients because it's in their financial interest to do so.
Of course nobody dares to criticise the consultants. They always blame the 'managers' when in fact it is the consultants who ultimately decide who gets treated.

That just denotes another Government failing though.

Unruly Hector

RayM wrote: »

It seems really weird to give out Social Protection payments in post offices, at the inconvenience of the recipient, for the sole purpose of propping post offices up.

It's a hard one... The post office certainly is a social hub, and contributes a lot to society.. But if they direct debited the Department Of Social Protection payments to people's accounts directly, this would leave more money to provide other services...

Unruly Hector

In fairness, who would be a TD... I have no love for Ciara Conway, but to have to sit there while the village idiot throws sponges at you to the jeers and boos of the baying mob... Why dont one of those fools put their names forward?

Kermit.de.frog

Unruly Hector wrote: »

It's a hard one... The post office certainly is a social hub, and contributes a lot to society.. But if they direct debited the Department Of Social Protection payments to people's accounts directly, this would leave more money to provide other services...

Social hub it may be but it must also be a bit of an awkward stigma all the same for genuine people on hard times collecting welfare in front of everyone they know in the local post office. Can't be the most pleasant feeling.

coolhull

Unruly Hector wrote: »

It's a hard one... The post office certainly is a social hub, and contributes a lot to society.. But if they direct debited the Department Of Social Protection payments to people's accounts directly, this would leave more money to provide other services...

You reckon the banks would provide the service for free?.....
That would be a first :eek:

Roger_007

Every village should have a university??

Pure Mule

Roger_007 wrote: »

There is a particular problem in health whereby the hospital consultants have absolute discretion as to who gets treated or who doesn't. They will always prioritise their private patients over their public patients because it's in their financial interest to do so.
Of course nobody dares to criticise the consultants. They always blame the 'managers' when in fact it is the consultants who ultimately decide who gets treated.

How convenient. Who else can we blame?

Unruly Hector

I think Vincent is being very unfair to the Renua candidate...

take everything

Vinny having great fun with this one

Unruly Hector

The Dunnes Stores workers would want to be careful or they'll be seeing the postmaster every Tuesday...

Roger_007

Yeah, boycott Dunnes Stores. That will really help the staff?

Unruly Hector

Oh dear god.. Who is this clown... As if the thing wasnt enough of a shambles..

efb

His accent isn't bad tbf

Roger_007

Unruly Hector wrote: »

Oh dear god.. Who is this clown... As if the thing wasnt enough of a shambles..

This 'act' certainly sums up the debate........a complete joke.

tayto lover

Is there a FF man on the panel or are they too scared to appear?

Unruly Hector

Was that a glimpse of Kathryn Reilly the Sinn Fein Candidate?

efb

tayto lover wrote: »

Is there a FF man on the panel or are they too scared to appear?

I don't think they do. Gone to Florida to look after their sore back

Unruly Hector

"And that doesnt include JobBridge figures"..

Oh jaysus, dont mention the war....

Also, the people shouting at the back should be thrown out...

Roger_007

No diddly-eye music?

coolhull

tayto lover wrote: »

Is there a FF man on the panel or are they too scared to appear?

FFdoesn't have a TD for Waterford, I think

RayM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Social hub it may be but it must also be a bit of an awkward stigma all the same for genuine people on hard times collecting welfare in front of everyone they know in the local post office. Can't be the most pleasant feeling.

It doesn't help that a lot of local post offices are owned and run by miserable, entitled bastards who couldn't crack a smile to save their lives, and seem to reserve a lot of disdain for social welfare recipients. If my local post office closed down, I'd be absolutely delighted for them.

Unruly Hector

That Gavin chap looks like one of the characters on Mad Men..

take everything

Sarah's hair really suits her like that

Unruly Hector

So the taxpayers were subsidizing the electric bills of big industry... that's pretty sickening..

Roger_007

Unruly Hector wrote: »

So the taxpayers were subsidizing the electric bills of big industry... that's pretty sickening..

Take a bow, Eamon Ryan.

Unruly Hector

Roger_007 wrote: »

Take a bow, Eamon Ryan.

He's been on the radio stations recently, I think with a view to the next election... I cant see him being too quick to go on the radio for the next few weeks..

Stillhouette

Roger_007 wrote: »

The problem is that Irish people want the best of everything while paying for nothing!

Waiting 2 and a half years and then complaining when the surgery is cancelled is wanting the best of everything? Jog on.

Uncle Ben

RayM wrote: »

It seems really weird to give out Social Protection payments in post offices, at the inconvenience of the recipient, for the sole purpose of propping post offices up.

Nearest bank to me is 15 miles in one direction or 20 miles the other way. Added to the fact that Bank of Ireland Strokestown can't accept cash lodgements over the counter on a Wednesday! At least a human is present at a post office if only to assist people. In my experience the inconvenience is in the banks.

RobertKK

I noticed tonight that Waterford were again claiming a part of Kilkenny, this time Belview where Glanbia built their new factory. Not Waterford...

hotmail.com

The George is going to be busy Saturday. I don't know how they will be able to do a live programme without noise and interference. Should be fun!

take everything

Have the auditors acted illegally so

take everything

Poor oul Vinnie is like King Canute in a white collar wild west here.

Jaysus sorry for mixing so many metaphors.

Roger_007

take everything wrote: »

Have the auditors acted illegally so

Possibly...........but proving it in court might be problematic!

myshirt

Both Vincent and this guy have fundamentally misunderstood the role of an Auditor.

There is a discussion to be had and some distance to go on this whole issue, so it's an absolute shame that they are so far off the mark on this show.

myshirt

Roger_007 wrote: »

Possibly...........but proving it in court might be problematic!

They absolutely have not. And secondly, nothing is difficult to prove in court, there are some brains out there.