Tonight With Vincent Browne Thread v 4.0 (08/07/14 to date)

RobertKK

Clare Daly would have us overrun with terrorists, ISIS expanded because people including military fled as they moved in.

Baggy Trousers

That Dooley fella is a complete and utter dope. He absolutely knows himself that he is talking utter waffle/shiite.

RobertKK

So Clare Daly and Mick Wallace could be going to jail for 30 days.

RayM

Both Justine McCarthy and Clare Daly have clearly done their research, and are putting the two FG/FF chancers to shame.

Baggy Trousers

RayM wrote: »

Both Justine McCarthy and Clare Daly have clearly done their research, and are putting the two FG/FF chancers to shame.

Agreed, both FG/FF politicians appear like simpletons in comparison.

Galwayguy35

Let's see Daly tell Francois Hollande he can't bomb those savages, I'm sure he will give her a nice answer.

Talking through her hoop as usual.

Walter E GO

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Let's see Daly tell Francois Hollande he can't bomb those savages, I'm sure he will give her a nice answer.

Talking through her hoop as usual.

Savages? You do realise that it will most certainly be ordinary people that they are bombing along with the terrorists who are caught up in the conflict, or don't their lives matter?
Collateral damage i believe the good old US of A would call them.

Galwayguy35

Walter E GO wrote: »

Savages? You do realise that it will most certainly be ordinary people that they are bombing along with the terrorists who are caught up in the conflict, or don't their lives matter?
Collateral damage i believe the good old US of A would call them.

You're as clueless as she is.

Walter E GO

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

You're as clueless as she is.

John McGuirk? Is that you?
So you are telling me, that innocent people aren't caught up in the conflict and bombed/maimed and killed? Or do you just insult people that don't agree with your narrow view of the conflict?

brooke 2

Baggy Trousers wrote: »

That Dooley fella is a complete and utter dope. He absolutely knows himself that he is talking utter waffle/shiite.

He is a typical FF waffler! Heard him at the weekend trying to deny that FF had held a crisis
meeting about Pat Carey. Amazing how they hung him out to dry. No formulaic words re all
the work he had done for the party and, definitely, no circling of the wagons for him as they did for so many scheisters in the past!

alan partridge aha

brooke 2 wrote: »

He is a typical FF waffler! Heard him at the weekend trying to deny that FF had held a crisis
meeting about Pat Carey. Amazing how they hung him out to dry. No formulaic words re all
the work he had done for the party and, definitely, no circling of the wagons for him as they did for so many scheisters in the past!

Pretty serious allegations in his case though.

Galwayguy35

Walter E GO wrote: »

John McGuirk? Is that you?
So you are telling me, that innocent people aren't caught up in the conflict and bombed/maimed and killed? Or do you just insult people that don't agree with your narrow view of the conflict?

Civilian casualties do happen, that's a sad reality of conflict, but ISIS butcher all around them and kill any christian who won't convert and any muslim who opposes them.

And these are the people Daly wants sitting around a table talking?

Military action is the only way to get rid of them, an argument can be made that in the past the west made mistakes but we have to look at what is happening now.

I've seen the pics from inside that building where the concert was and I don't blame France one bit for wanting those responsible dead.

RayM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Civilian casualties do happen, that's a sad reality of conflict, but ISIS butcher all around them and kill any christian who won't convert and any muslim who opposes them.

And these are the people Daly wants sitting around a table talking?

Military action is the only way to get rid of them, an argument can be made that in the past the west made mistakes but we have to look at what is happening now.

I've seen the pics from inside that building where the concert was and I don't blame France one bit for wanting those responsible dead.

Yeah, 'mistakes' which ultimately led to the rise of ISIS. Yeah, let's kill hundreds of thousands of civilians again. That definitely won't lead to more extremism. Mistakes happen... civilian casualties happen... It's all perfectly acceptable, as long as they're not white.

Incidentally, I love the way you say 'we'. Does this mean you're planning on signing up to fight yourself? Or will you just stick to being yet another armchair general, cheering the slaughter on from the sidelines?

beard_grower

RayM wrote: »

Yeah, 'mistakes' which ultimately led to the rise of ISIS. Yeah, let's kill hundreds of thousands of civilians again. That definitely won't lead to more extremism. Mistakes happen... civilian casualties happen... It's all perfectly acceptable, as long as they're not white.

Incidentally, I love the way you say 'we'. Does this mean you're planning on signing up to fight yourself? Or will you just stick to being yet another armchair general, cheering the slaughter on from the sidelines?

do you think a dovish approach will work ?

RayM

beard_grower wrote: »

do you think a dovish approach will work ?

Do you think an approach that has been proven to exacerbate the situation will work?

beard_grower

RayM wrote: »

Do you think an approach that has been proven to exacerbate the situation will work?

no idea , what do you think might work ?

RayM

beard_grower wrote: »

no idea , what do you think might work ?

No idea, but mass slaughter won't work.

beard_grower

RayM wrote: »

No idea, but mass slaughter won't work.

i think they shouldnt be attacking syrian IS bases as it hasnt achieved anything to date

however , i think the refugee planned programme needs to be changed , the refugees should be diverted to places like turkey but the EU should financially contribute and yes i would be prepared to pay taxes towards such a temporary accomodation measure

Atlantic Dawn

beard_grower wrote: »

i think they shouldnt be attacking syrian IS bases as it hasnt achieved anything to date

It has, it has got IS to attack Paris.

beard_grower

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

It has, it has got IS to attack Paris.

well we cant know that for sure as the charlie hebdoe attacks in january were about printing pics of the prophet so it appears that millitary action in syria isnt the sole cause of these terrorists attacks

Walter E GO

beard_grower wrote: »

well we cant know that for sure as the charlie hebdoe attacks in january were about printing pics of the prophet so it appears that millitary action in syria isnt the sole cause of these terrorists attacks

Nope but it certainly doesn't help. America and it's allies (France included) wanted to oust Assad from Syria and supplied money and weapons to various rebels including IS. To quote Malcom X "chickens coming home to roost". Now don't get me wrong Assad is a bastad but better than IS. It looks like Russia's involvement has exacerbated the situation. I don't know the answers but i do know that for every bomb dropped martyrs are created and revenge is on peoples minds. Easy pickings for recruiters and their twisted ideals.

JustTheOne

Walter E GO wrote: »

Nope but it certainly doesn't help. America and it's allies (France included) wanted to oust Assad from Syria and supplied money and weapons to various rebels including IS. To quote Malcom X "chickens coming home to roost". Now don't get me wrong Assad is a bastad but better than IS. It looks like Russia's involvement has exacerbated thee situation. I don't know the answers but i do know that for every bomb dropped martyrs are created and revenge is on peoples minds. Easy pickings for recruiters and their twisted ideals.

They have killed more Muslims than Christians.

They want to take over the world with their ideology like Nazi Germany.

Whether bombs are dropped or not they will continue.

Its a lot more complex than wanting to get back at Russia or France.

That's only a tip of their aims.

Did American bombs force isis to murder thousands of women and children in Syria and prostitute them?

beard_grower

Walter E GO wrote: »

Nope but it certainly doesn't help. America and it's allies (France included) wanted to oust Assad from Syria and supplied money and weapons to various rebels including IS. To quote Malcom X "chickens coming home to roost". Now don't get me wrong Assad is a bastad but better than IS. It looks like Russia's involvement has exacerbated the situation. I don't know the answers but i do know that for every bomb dropped martyrs are created and revenge is on peoples minds. Easy pickings for recruiters and their twisted ideals.

interfering in the mid east is not the sole motivation of IS , otherwise they would not talk about slaying infidels who frequent dens of vice etc , same with the charlie hebdoe killings

anyway , the genie is out of the bottle now , we cant just lie down and allow kids at concerts to be slain just because bush and blair causes mayhem in the mid east , whats done is done

the refugee planned programme should not go ahead now , it does not have public support , turkey is not at war and is a huge country , a massive fund needs to be put together to house these refugees outside europe for years if need be , this will take a generation to solve but we have enough on our plate with the muslim populations who already live in europe

self preservation has to count for something

Walter E GO

JustTheOne wrote: »

Did American bombs force isis to murder thousands of women and children in Syria and prostitute them?

Worth aread.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq

sligojoek

Tonight's show is on now. Tipperary.

coolhull

sligojoek wrote: »

Tonight's show is on now. Tipperary.

As usual, no show from the Govt. parties

Baggy Trousers

coolhull wrote: »

As usual, no show from the Govt. parties

Alan Kelly promised to show up but didn't...poor form.

sligojoek

coolhull wrote: »

As usual, no show from the Govt. parties

especially Alan Kelly.

sligojoek

I reckon Seamie Morris will do him a lot of damage around Nenagh

sligojoek

Good man Vinnie. Stick it to Lowry

Baggy Trousers

sligojoek wrote: »

Good man Vinnie. Stick it to Lowry

That was hillarious. Not one of the 500 people would admit to voting for Lowry!

snipey

where's Mickey Murphy

realdanbreen

Baggy Trousers wrote: »

Alan Kelly promised to show up but didn't...poor form.

Why would he or lowry need to go on and be subjected to Brownes loaded questions? They are both a shoo in anyway.

Baggy Trousers

realdanbreen wrote: »

Why would he or lowry need to go on and be subjected to Brownes loaded questions? They are both a shoo in anyway.

I know you're a Tipp man but I would be very very surprised if both get in again. Both could well (and should) lose their seats.
Lowry for being corrupt and Kelly for being naive, arrogant and stupid.

sligojoek

realdanbreen wrote: »

Why would he or lowry need to go on and be subjected to Brownes loaded questions? They are both a shoo in anyway.

It could be different this time.The vote will be diluted as the two constituencies are now amalgamated.

realdanbreen

Baggy Trousers wrote: »

I know you're a Tipp man but I would be very very surprised if both get in again. Both could well (and should) lose their seats.
Lowry for being corrupt and Kelly for being naive, arrogant and stupid.

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Back to the real world,its only a question of which of them tops the poll.

RobertKK

Rural crime is overstated in my opinion, I live in rural Ireland, and not living in fear.

Fuzzy Clam

RobertKK wrote: »

Rural crime is overstated in my opinion, I live in rural Ireland, and not living in fear.

Tell that to the 7 households that have been burgled in my area recently.......

Busted Flat.

RobertKK wrote: »

Rural crime is overstated in my opinion, I live in rural Ireland, and not living in fear.

Ask Padraig Nally what he thinks or some of the victims, you want to look around and talk to some of them.

CatFromHue

Busted Flat. wrote: »

Ask Padraig Nally what he thinks or some of the victims, you want to look around and talk to some of them.

The current narrative is of a current rural crime epidemic, the crimes against Nally happened years ago.

It was interesting hearing Michael Clifford, who's someone I wouldn't put in the urban gang, saying on Claire Byrne Live that the crime rate in urban areas is higher than that in rural areas.

Corholio

realdanbreen wrote: »

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Back to the real world,its only a question of which of them tops the poll.

More fools the Tipp electorate then.

realdanbreen

Corholio wrote: »

More fools the Tipp electorate then.

The Tipp constituencies were always regarded as the national barometer for elections down through the years. You probably won't find an electorate more discerning or not prepared to take crap from politicians anywhere else in the country.

PopePalpatine

And yet they still return Michael Lowry.

My name is URL

realdanbreen wrote: »

The Tipp constituencies were always regarded as the national barometer for elections down through the years. You probably won't find an electorate more discerning or not prepared to take crap from politicians anywhere else in the country.

lol... about as discerning as the village drunk that will do a jig for half a tin of Heineken

The Tipp constituencies were always regarded as the national barometer for elections down through the years

And I don't think that's much to be gloating about either!

realdanbreen

My name is URL wrote: »

lol... about as discerning as the village drunk that will do a jig for half a tin of Heineken



And I don't think that's much to be gloating about either!

Obviously your knowledge of irish politics doesn't extend beyond watching the Vincent Browne show. And if you think that I was gloating then your knowledge of the english language isn't a whole pile better.

realdanbreen

PopePalpatine wrote: »

And yet they still return Michael Lowry.

That's what happens in a democratic election popey. Do you have a politician in mind yourself that you would like to impose on the electorate?

sligojoek

PopePalpatine wrote: »

And yet they still return Michael Lowry.

Not all of Tipperary. He was able to get enough votes from his own corner of the county, ie Thurles and Holycross. As one woman said last night it'll be different now that the whole county is one constituency.

sligojoek

My name is URL wrote: »

lol... about as discerning as the village drunk that will do a jig for half a tin of Heineken



And I don't think that's much to be gloating about either!

The discerning voters of Dublin gave us Haughy and Ahern. The discerning voters of Mayo gave us P Flynn. I could go on.

golfball37

realdanbreen wrote: »

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Back to the real world,its only a question of which of them tops the poll.

Alan Kelly will be fighting for the fifth seat and I predict he won't get it.

realdanbreen

golfball37 wrote: »

Alan Kelly will be fighting for the fifth seat and I predict he won't get it.

Well you could predict that Ireland will win euro2016 as well but that won't happen either!