Tonight With Vincent Browne Thread v 4.0 (08/07/14 to date)

CatFromHue

RayM wrote: »

He referred to potential Sinn Fein voters as "drug dealers, kidnappers and terrorists". A week before the election. On the most popular television show in the country. And it went unchallenged. Imagine the uproar from pro-establishment posters on here if a guest on Vincent Browne's show was given free reign to refer to FG/FF and their voters as being big fans of corruption.

Didn't that happen in every single show where he went around Ireland?

tampopo

Durkan getting a roasting there for ages. I didn't realise there were more people on the panel, other than him!

Baggy Trousers

Wow, who replaced VB tonight - she roasted Durkan (FG). Made him look like an idiot. Great questioning and did not let him spoof. He was rattled and quite angry that it was done by a woman.

Busted Flat.

tampopo wrote: »

Durkan getting a roasting there for ages. I didn't realise there were more people on the panel, other than him!

Thicko from FF the people do not like politicians reneging on promises, brass neck, you have done a u turn on IW you will be down below the 2011 seats at the next GE.

Brendan Bendar

Busted Flat. wrote: »

Thicko from FF the people do not like politicians reneging don promises, brass neck, you have done a u turn on IW you will be down below the 2011 seats at the next GE.

"Reneging on promises"

Telling lies, Busted, that's the current way to describe anything in that realm.

Nobody just doesn't do what the promised, they told lies.

Get with it:pac:

SEPT 23 1989

The perfect politician

Auld Jim Halpin

This Eoghan Murphy fella is turning my stomach with his FG rhetoric. Nothing seems to have changed in FG. They are like clones. I can understand VB's frustration!

BaZmO*

Haha. He didn't like that comment about liking the little fella.

coolhull

Auld Jim Halpin wrote: »

This Eoghan Murphy fella is turning my stomach with his FG rhetoric. Nothing seems to have changed in FG. They are like clones. I can understand VB's frustration!

Jim, I'd say you can expect a rebuttal from Brendan Bendar fairly soon

Roger_007

Auld Jim Halpin wrote: »

This Eoghan Murphy fella is turning my stomach with his FG rhetoric. Nothing seems to have changed in FG. They are like clones. I can understand VB's frustration!

Of course, he won't ask the Shinner about their rigid whip system which is even more rigid than FGs.

realdanbreen

I think VB could throw the towel in at this stage. He is unable to get anyone of substance to come on his show( after all who needs to come on and be ridiculed) and between coughing and spluttering and managing to forget the names of the few guests that do come on it's a bit tiresome at this stage.

Busted Flat.

realdanbreen wrote: »

I think VB could throw the towel in at this stage. He is unable to get anyone of substance to come on his show( after all who needs to come on and be ridiculed) and between coughing and spluttering and managing to forget the names of the few guests that do come on it's a bit tiresome at this stage.

This show tonight is the pits, good night TV3 you have lost the plot.

realdanbreen

realdanbreen wrote: »

I think VB could throw the towel in at this stage. He is unable to get anyone of substance to come on his show( after all who needs to come on and be ridiculed).

Hang on! Is that Quentin Tarrantino's son that he has got on the show! Well done vincint.

take everything

realdanbreen wrote: »

Hang on! Is that Quentin Tarrantino's son that he has got on the show! Well done vincint.

That's Stephen Morrissey

coolhull

realdanbreen wrote: »

I think VB could throw the towel in at this stage. He is unable to get anyone of substance to come on his show( after all who needs to come on and be ridiculed) and between coughing and spluttering and managing to forget the names of the few guests that do come on it's a bit tiresome at this stage.

Fair enough, but Vincent is 71, and not in good health.
If some of the RTE presenters could reap even half of what Vincent sowed over many years, then they might come close to earning even half their massive salaries

RobertKK

These guests are dreadful, can't answer a question straight.

realdanbreen

coolhull wrote: »

Fair enough, but Vincent is 71, and not in good health.
If some of the RTE presenters could reap even half of what Vincent sowed over many years, then they might come close to earning even half their massive salaries

If he is not cutting the mustard he should resign. The same guy wouldn't be long shafting anyone else who was gone past it.

theglobe

coolhull wrote: »

Fair enough, but Vincent is 71, and not in good health.
If some of the RTE presenters could reap even half of what Vincent sowed over many years, then they might come close to earning even half their massive salaries

What are his health issues exactly?

coolhull

theglobe wrote: »

What are his health issues exactly?

Well it's not for us to discuss anyon'e health issues, but he's certainly asthmatic, and spent a lot of time last summer in hospital for various illnesses

Auld Jim Halpin

I think he is looking well since his return. As far as politicians are concerned, if they are doing the job they are paid to do, to the best of their ability then they have nothing to fear from going on the show. If they are going to be on the show and talk out of both sides of their mouth then yes they deserve to get a hard time. Sure he can be a bit cranky sometimes but they should be able to handle it. The show does the country a great service in acting as a watchdog and providing a forum for debate that cannot be achieved in any other media source. I have a lot of respect for the man.

realdanbreen

Auld Jim Halpin wrote: »

I think he is looking well since his return. As far as politicians are concerned, if they are doing the job they are paid to do, to the best of their ability then they have nothing to fear from going on the show. If they are going to be on the show and talk out of both sides of their mouth then yes they deserve to get a hard time. Sure he can be a bit cranky sometimes but they should be able to handle it. The show does the country a great service in acting as a watchdog and providing a forum for debate that cannot be achieved in any other media source. I have a lot of respect for the man.

Are you serious! The show is a complete shambles at this stage. VB coughing, spluttering, clearing his throat, forgetting names etc. Whem Mick Clifford is presenting it he looks at the camera like a hare petrified in the glare of the lights. You don't know from one night to the next who will present it and the panelists at this stage spend most of the time looking down at their fingernails while Vincent rambles on giving his opinion. EG While I admire his stance on Travellers rights and equality I have never heard him give adequate time to the widespread criminality of Traveller gangs. Likewise with his pet term 'equality'. Most sane people that I know are all for equality but I have never heard VB give a serious detailed analysis of how it is achieved.

Jack Killian

realdanbreen wrote: »

Are you serious! The show is a complete shambles at this stage. VB coughing, spluttering, clearing his throat, forgetting names etc. Whem Mick Clifford is presenting it he looks at the camera like a hare petrified in the glare of the lights. You don't know from one night to the next who will present it and the panelists at this stage spend most of the time looking down at their fingernails while Vincent rambles on giving his opinion. EG While I admire his stance on Travellers rights and equality I have never heard him give adequate time to the widespread criminality of Traveller gangs. Likewise with his pet term 'equality'. Most sane people that I know are all for equality but I have never heard VB give a serious detailed analysis of how it is achieved.

Some aspects have certainly gone downhill, no doubt.

But it's a testament to the man - and an indictment of every PR-regurgitating hack who wants to call themselves a "journalist" - that there isn't a replacement who can do what he does without the coughing and so on.

The amount of absolute tripe that I've seen masquerading as journalism and reporting is crazy - you'd imagine that 99% of them hadn't been near a journalist course and that the other 1% had left after the first term!

Brendan Bendar

Jack Killian wrote: »

Some aspects have certainly gone downhill, no doubt.

But it's a testament to the man - and an indictment of every PR-regurgitating hack who wants to call themselves a "journalist" - that there isn't a replacement who can do what he does without the coughing and so on.

The amount of absolute tripe that I've seen masquerading as journalism and reporting is crazy - you'd imagine that 99% of them hadn't been near a journalist course and that the other 1% had left after the first term!

He obviously never learned the art of unbiased interviewing at whatever school he attended.

Jack Killian

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

He obviously never learned the art of unbiased interviewing at whatever school he attended.

If people gave him straight answers and didn't have such horrendous double-standards then he wouldn't have to get frustrated.... I genuinely don't understand how he's even lasted this long, as I'd have lost the will to live.

Blood from a stone at times, Bendy; blood from a stone.

Brendan Bendar

Jack Killian wrote: »

If people gave him straight answers and didn't have such horrendous double-standards then he wouldn't have to get frustrated.... I genuinely don't understand how he's even lasted this long, as I'd have lost the will to live.

Blood from a stone at times, Bendy; blood from a stone.

That's the mistake he makes Jack, sometimes there isn't a straight answer.

Sometimes a lot of things have to fall into place before stuff starts happening.

Any interviewee would be mad to give definitive response if certain slots have to be filled when the very same Browne would try to tear him apart for 'telling lies ' to use the current buzzword,if it turned out he/she was wrong in their predictions.

Browne however thinks it's smart to hammer question after question at someone like that when to most sane people understand that al lot of issues have complex peripheral processes which take time to synchronise are are anything but a yes or no answer.

I would have some respect for Browne if he understood that fairly simple concept.

Jack Killian

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

That's the mistake he makes Jack, sometimes there isn't a straight answer.

Sometimes a lot of things have to fall into place before stuff starts happening.

Any interviewee would be mad to give definitive response if certain slots have to be filled when the very same Browne would try to tear him apart for 'telling lies ' to use the current buzzword,if it turned out he/she was wrong in their predictions.

Browne however thinks it's smart to hammer question after question at someone like that when to most sane people understand that al lot of issues have complex peripheral processes which take time to synchronise are are anything but a yes or no answer.

I would have some respect for Browne if he understood that fairly simple concept.

I agree to a large extent. But when someone's idea of an "apology" is .....

Enda Kenny wrote:

I take responsibility for this having evolved to what people might imagine it is

....then he's spot-on to call them on the fact that that is - by no stretch of any imagination - an "apology" for what he chose to do.

If I was on TV dealing with morons who came out with that waffle and tripe, I'd basically be walking out of the studio in disgust.

How any self-respecting "journalist" reported that as being an "apology" (which inexplicably even the Irish Times did @ http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/enda-kenny-apologises-over-mcnulty-debacle-1.1943468 ) is completely and utterly beyond me.

• He didn't "apologise for what he did"
• He didn't even "take responsibility for what he did"
• He didn't even take responsibility for what what he did evolved into
• He didn't even take responsiblity for ANYTHING, let alone apologise for it

He basically said that "people were imagining what it is", and worked backwards, putting 5 levels of deflection, lies and sh1te between HIS corrupt crony choice and HIS statement about it.

Absolutely disgraceful and shows ZERO integrity; is it any wonder the sleazy moron won't go on when he can't even admit to doing something; no - it's all our "imagination" :rolleyes:

Vile deflectionary cowardly lying prick, supposedly "leader" of our country; if he had the guts to go on VB he'd be - quite rightly - slaughtered for refusing to speak English and refusing to treat his employers with respect.

Good loser

As far as politicians go Enda Kenny is fine by me.

Browne's a fool.

Good loser

Good loser wrote: »

As far as politicians go Enda Kenny is fine by me.

Browne's a fool.

.........in your opinion 👎

Jack Killian

[Deleted User] wrote: »

.........in your opinion 👎

In fairness it is an opinion/discussion board. And even minority opinions can be expressed.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/election-2016/surge-for-martin-in-new-poll-shock-34593994.html

Jack Killian

Jack Killian wrote: »

In fairness it is an opinion/discussion board. And even minority opinions can be expressed.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/election-2016/surge-for-martin-in-new-poll-shock-34593994.html

I understand that..... I just don't agree that Vincent Browne is a fool. That's my opinion. Simple.

Jack Killian

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I understand that..... I just don't agree that Vincent Browne is a fool. That's my opinion. Simple.

He can be a bit dithery, but compared to most of his guests he's Einstein.

Walter E GO

What planet is David Quinn from? Serious question.

coolhull

Walter E GO wrote: »

What planet is David Quinn from? Serious question.

I didn't catch the woman's name but she's not letting Quinn away with anything, fair play to her

coolhull

When Quinn finds himself in a hole, he should throw away the shovel, not dig deeper

Walter E GO

coolhull wrote: »

I didn't catch the woman's name but she's not letting Quinn away with anything, fair play to her

She's Niamh Puirseil, an Irish Historian and writer. Her and Vinny are wiping the floor with Ionas golden boy. It's bizarre that he was caught out lying and just kept digging a hole deeper for himself. I almost felt sorry for the guy.....ALMOST.

joseph brand

Quinn is infuriating! Arguing with religious types is just pigeon chess.

The historian even asked him if he'd bumped his head. He didn't. He's simply a snake oil salesman.

alan partridge aha

You made one mistake David, you can't say anything against Saint Michael D.

Good loser

Quinn didn't make the point but in Ireland as in practically all countries there is a divide in society between those who believe people's money should be left substantially with those who earn it and those who believe the most important thing is to distribute this same money to others.

Or those who think growing the overall pot of money is more important than the sharing out of it.

Socialism v. capitalism.

Our country is divided basically half and half between these two groupings.

The trouble with Michael D Higgins is that he lines up four square behind the socialist half of the population.
Regardless of his personal position this is a wholly inappropriate view for a President to articulate - setting himself up in opposition to half the population. That's a permanent half.

Browne obviously hasn't the sense or the wit to see what's wrong with this.

Busted Flat.

Vinny mention all the countries expect Ireland, is he been bought, what about Frankie.

coolhull

Busted Flat. wrote: »

Vinny mention all the countries expect Ireland, is he been bought, what about Frankie.

But poor Frank has no idea how he made an extra quarter of a million. Didn't even know he had it till he saw it in the paper. Sure haven't we all been in that position? :rolleyes:

Busted Flat.

coolhull wrote: »

But poor Frank has no idea how he made an extra quarter of a million. Didn't even know he had it till he saw it in the paper. Sure haven't we all been in that position? :rolleyes:

Frankie is taking the "Albert Reynolds amendment" something like the Fith in the US. But in this country it is more successful.

enfant terrible

coolhull wrote: »

I didn't catch the woman's name but she's not letting Quinn away with anything, fair play to her

Thought she was rubbish, her and Vincent arguing against each other without realizing it.

Sinead Ballantyne >Sarah Mcinerney (as in sexier) .....Just saying :pac:

Brendan Bendar

Deleted User wrote: »

Sinead Ballantyne >Sarah Mcinerney (as in sexier) .....Just saying :pac:

:eek:

Ssssssteady...............!

Walter E GO

Michael McNamara is unbelievably deluded. The arrogance is strong in this one.

Baggy Trousers

Catherine Connolly is an excellent Independent TD. She will do very very well.

coolhull

Walter E GO wrote: »

Michael McNamara is unbelievably deluded. The arrogance is strong in this one.

Just as arrogant as he was when he had a Dail seat, but he'll learn the hard way.....

Busted Flat.

McNamraa has the arrogance of someone that thinks he is still in power,

Baggy Trousers

VB slating the debacle of Irish Water and how it proved the last government was incompetent.

coolhull

Baggy Trousers wrote: »

VB slating the debacle of Irish Water and how it proved the last government was incompetent.

But it was, wasn't it?