Tonight With Vincent Browne Thread v 4.0 (08/07/14 to date)

Harry Angstrom · 30-09-2014 11:13pm

MrsD007 wrote: »

Vinny said that he is going to discuss it after this.

Thanks, I missed the start of it.

Lapin · 30-09-2014 11:14pm

Just tuned in.

Looks like Liveline on the telly here.

Whats happening?

Busted Flat. · 30-09-2014 11:16pm

MrsD007 wrote: »

Vinny said that he is going to discuss it after this.

What happened to her and people like her, her story is more important to show how fúckéd up our country is. corrupt to the core as the Mc Nulty and the sleeven retiree from the water board is.

hotmail.com · 30-09-2014 11:18pm

A powerful interview given by that lady.

Awful treatment she received and supported by the Catholic Church.

The government has to cough up. End of. The government pretend to want to treat women equally and yet they treat the survivors of this barbarity with such derision.

Roger_007 · 30-09-2014 11:28pm

hotmail.com wrote: »

A powerful interview given by that lady.

Awful treatment she received and supported by the Catholic Church.

The government has to cough up. End of. The government pretend to want to treat women equally and yet they treat the survivors of this barbarity with such derision.

When you say the government has to cough up, what you are saying that the rest of us, (who had no hand, act or part in the debacle), have to cough up? ( as usual).

hotmail.com · 30-09-2014 11:29pm

Roger_007 wrote: »

When you say the government has to cough up, what you are saying that the rest of us, (who had no hand, act or part in the debacle), have to cough up? ( as usual).

DP.

hotmail.com · 30-09-2014 11:29pm

Roger_007 wrote: »

When you say the government has to cough up, what you are saying that the rest of us, (who had no hand, act or part in the debacle), have to cough up? ( as usual).

Yep. Would you begrudge them compensation? I wouldn't.

Busted Flat. · 30-09-2014 11:30pm

Roger_007 wrote: »

When you say the government has to cough up, what you are saying that the rest of us, (who had no hand, act or part in the debacle), have to cough up? ( as usual).

Jail and take their wealth off the butchers.

Lady Chatterton · 30-09-2014 11:32pm

Busted Flat. wrote: »

Jail and take their wealth off the butchers.

I'd say a lot of the medical people who performed these procedures are long dead.

hotmail.com · 30-09-2014 11:35pm

MrsD007 wrote: »

I'd say a lot of the medical people who performed these procedures are long dead.

They were being performed into the 1970s and 1980s. I would imagine there's a good few still alive probably attending mass of course.

Roger_007 · 30-09-2014 11:35pm

hotmail.com wrote: »

Yep. Would you begrudge them compensation? I wouldn't.

They should be sueing the doctors and hospitals involved. Don't forget that one of the hospitals principally involved was the Lourdes in Drogheda which was wholly owned and run at the time by the Medical Missionaries of Mary. That's where the responsibility lies and that's who should 'cough up'.

Busted Flat. · 30-09-2014 11:38pm

MrsD007 wrote: »

I'd say a lot of the medical people who performed these procedures are long dead.

The ill gotten gains are still there. They recoup the resources of criminals don't they, take the ill gotten gains off their kids, so there is a precedent for doing so.

hotmail.com · 30-09-2014 11:38pm

Roger_007 wrote: »

They should be sueing the doctors and hospitals involved. Don't forget that one of the hospitals principally involved was the Lourdes in Drogheda which was wholly owned and run at the time by the Medical Missionaries of Mary. That's where the responsibility lies and that's who should 'cough up'.

The State paid the wages and supposedly monitored hospitals, so they are responsible. Court judgments over the years have time and time again shown this.

It may not be a great thing for the state finances, but it has to be done. The women deserve to be compensated.

PopePalpatine · 30-09-2014 11:40pm

Maybe it could be split between the orders and the State, just as was supposed to happen for clerical abuse?

Harry Angstrom · 30-09-2014 11:41pm

Twomey spoofing. Every Fine Gaeler who's been rolled out to explain this has been spoofing away. This whole fiasco serves to illustrate Enda Kenny's total incompetence.

Lady Chatterton · 30-09-2014 11:41pm

Busted Flat. wrote: »

The ill gotten gains are still there. They recoup the resources of criminals don't they, take the ill gotten gains off their kids, so there is a precedent for doing so.

I reckon it could be very difficult, the surgery was not illegal and the onus would be on the misfortunate women to fight their case against the medical personnel involved. Time isn't on their side so state redress is their best option at this stage.

hotmail.com · 30-09-2014 11:42pm

PopePalpatine wrote: »

Maybe it could be split between the orders and the State, just as was supposed to happen for clerical abuse?

I would happily see the Catholic Church bankrupted to pay the entire compensation, but the mass goers that still give large amounts of money to the Church won't like that.

Joe Duffy.. · 30-09-2014 11:42pm

Jaysus, yer wans eyes are enormous.

Harry Angstrom · 30-09-2014 11:43pm

Joe Duffy.. wrote: »

Jaysus, yer wans eyes are enormous.

How are the holliers going, Joe? Are you away with the three twins?

hotmail.com · 30-09-2014 11:44pm

MrsD007 wrote: »

I reckon it could be very difficult, the surgery was not illegal and the onus would be on the misfortunate women to fight their case against the medical personnel involved. Time isn't on their side so state redress is their best option at this stage.

The programme has been about how dysfunctional and inadequate the state redress scheme is and that it is clearly an insult.

The illegality of the procedure isn't clear as the women did not give consent.

Busted Flat. · 30-09-2014 11:44pm

This bóllíckolgy about Mc Nulty, according to Sundays Papers he is a personal friend of Enda's 1st Cousin. Ask the question about that.

Lapin · 30-09-2014 11:44pm

hotmail.com wrote: »

Yep. Would you begrudge them compensation? I wouldn't.

I wouldn't either.

But as the last Magdalen Laundry closed down in 1996, tax only those who were working prior to then for 25% of the total compensation and make deductions in pensions to raise another 25%.

The Catholic Church should come up with the remaining 50%.

Under no circumstances should anyone who entered the workplace and began paying tax after 1996 be made to pay for the actions of those who went before them.

Its not about begrudging anyone what they deserve. But the current generation aren't at fault for it. We're already paying over the top for the fuck ups created by our own generation of ****.

Harry Angstrom · 30-09-2014 11:46pm

It's the Colette and Paddy Show again.

Roger_007 · 30-09-2014 11:46pm

I don't know why Vinnie invites a panel and hardly gives them time to utter a full sentence?

Lady Chatterton · 30-09-2014 11:46pm

Paddy and Colette are becoming regulars

hotmail.com · 30-09-2014 11:47pm

Lapin wrote: »

I wouldn't either.

But as the last Magdalen Laundry closed down in 1996, tax only those who were working prior to then for 25% of the total compensation and make deductions in pensions to raise another 25%.

The Catholic Church should come up with the remaining 50%.

Under no circumstances should anyone who entered the workplace and began paying tax after 1996 be made to pay for the actions of those who went before them.

Its not about begrudging anyone what they deserve. But the current generation aren't at fault for it. We're already paying over the top for the fuck ups created by our own generation of ****.

I could not agree more, but Fine Gael and Fianna Fail won't have their Catholic mates being made broke.

There isn't enough will among mass goers either to boycott the Church until they pay up. In fact many still give large amounts of money every week, some leaving thousands in their wills to them.

Lady Chatterton · 30-09-2014 11:47pm

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

It's the Colette and Paddy Show again.

I love these pair, they're hilarious together.

coolhull · 30-09-2014 11:48pm

Is Paddy Manning another one who sleeps upstairs at TV3?

Lapin · 30-09-2014 11:53pm

Roger_007 wrote: »

I don't know why Vinnie invites a panel and hardly gives them time to utter a full sentence?

Because if he let everyone finish their sentences there'd be less time for the ad breaks.

Roger_007 · 30-09-2014 11:54pm

The structure of this show is getting more fragmented and chaotic by the week!

Harry Angstrom · 30-09-2014 11:59pm

Roger_007 wrote: »

The structure of this show is getting more fragmented and chaotic by the week!

It's a mess - a bit like Vinnie's hair.

Lapin · 01-10-2014 10:04pm

THE PEOPLES DABATE

On Wednesday, 1st October, The People's Debate returns, just 2 weeks before the Budget to debate the motion 'That Budget 2015 should prioritise the relief of the squeezed middle income earners'.

The People's Debate returns tonight.

Its called that because all the people on it speak over all the other people at the same time and the people watching it can't make head nor tail of what the people in it are saying.

Lets rip !

Lapin · 01-10-2014 10:19pm

Well said that last fella.

better call saul · 01-10-2014 10:20pm

Fianna fail twat

Lapin · 01-10-2014 10:25pm

People with philosophy degrees get jobs in pubs collecting the empty glasses of barstool philosophers.

better call saul · 01-10-2014 10:26pm

Vincent in his prime loving it

Lapin · 01-10-2014 10:27pm

Launchpad for a new party.

But its in Athlone so its doomed before it starts.

better call saul · 01-10-2014 10:29pm

Lapin wrote: »

Launchpad for a new party.

But its in Athlone so its doomed before it starts.

Your man's talking balls sure to print our own money we'd need to leave the euro

FixdePitchmark · 01-10-2014 10:40pm

Where the hell did they get these - every whacko group going - Pavee now.

Michael Jackson will turn up. With his Monkey.

better call saul · 01-10-2014 10:41pm

What's pavee point doing on this sure none of the gypsies pay any tax

better call saul · 01-10-2014 10:41pm

What's the text number?

FixdePitchmark · 01-10-2014 10:43pm

better call saul wrote: »

What's pavee point doing on this sure none of the gypsies pay any tax

:eek:

FixdePitchmark · 01-10-2014 10:43pm

Teacher - preacher.

better call saul · 01-10-2014 10:44pm

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

:eek:

Sure it's true, how many tinkers do you know are in the paye system?

Oh I get it, they need us to earn more for them to thieve

better call saul · 01-10-2014 10:45pm

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Teacher - preacher.

I think teachers are underpaid for their effort so I agree with all her points

bigroad · 01-10-2014 10:46pm

No water meters for haulting sites ,oh yes and they still get a free skip.

BlondeBomb · 01-10-2014 10:47pm

better call saul wrote: »

Sure it's true, how many tinkers do you know are in the paye system?

Oh I get it, they need us to earn more for them to thieve

Tinkers? Really?

Lady Chatterton · 01-10-2014 10:55pm

"The Minister for Gutter & Splutter" lol

Lapin · 01-10-2014 10:56pm

The cat is a bit childish really.

Although I did like his Minister for Gutter & Splutter remark !

take everything · 01-10-2014 10:58pm

Vinny's free for all extravaganza.
Seems like a more sedate affair than usual.

Tonight With Vincent Browne Thread v 4.0 (08/07/14 to date)

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