Tonight With Vincent Browne Thread v 4.0 (08/07/14 to date)

gladrags

kevinmcm wrote: »

So imagine this story was being told in relation to any other leader of a political party in this country, they would be gone in the morning. Shinners make me sick to my stomach!

If it was any other leader,she would not be on tv.

Are you making any accusations?

Speak up.

dublincelt

AndonHandon wrote: »

Brave girl standing up to these undesirables.

Standing up by dropping her case in the courts. Why was that?

AndonHandon

gladrags wrote: »

If it was any other leader,she would not be on tv.

Are you making any accusations?

Speak up.

Hypothetical. Assumptive. Manipulative.

Busted Flat.

Vinny aske her where her political allegiance lies now.

Busted Flat.

Vinny ask her where her political allegiance lies now.

AndonHandon

dublincelt wrote: »

Standing up by dropping her case in the courts. Why was that?

The victim of crime does not decide whether to bring a criminal case, it is the decision of the DPP.

hotmail.com

Busted Flat. wrote: »

Vinny ask her where her political allegiance lies now.

What would the relevance of that be?

One guesses she's not a SF fan!

Fred Swanson

This post has been deleted.

AndonHandon

If you took the most attractive features of the current three on the show you would still only have a face for radio.

HeidiHeidi

Is that poor girl watching this shambles from backstage? :eek:

What on earth has MLOD to add to the (non) debate? And who's this other geezer?

hotmail.com

Is Adams ever going to step down?

dublincelt

AndonHandon wrote: »

The victim of crime does not decide whether to bring a criminal case, it is the decision of the DPP.

"All charges were dropped, and the accused rapist was acquitted after Ms Cahill withdrew her evidence."

(c) BBC

Diferent question, why did she withdraw her evidence?

Busted Flat.

Fred Swanson wrote: »

This post has been deleted.

He is too busy doing a remake of Mrs. Robinison.

AndonHandon

dublincelt wrote: »

"All charges were dropped, and the accused rapist was acquitted after Ms Cahill withdrew her evidence."

(c) BBC

Diferent question, why did she withdraw her evidence?

She gave her reason, we can't put words in her mouth.

hotmail.com

Eoin should stop digging.

Busted Flat.

Vin B and his cohorts see the sand wash from under his feet. Roll on UTV IRL.

Heat_Wave

Without evidence this is a very difficult one to call. On one hand she could be telling the truth, on the other hand she could be destroying a man's/Parties reputation. A lot of things do not add up here

take everything

But shur Gerry was never in the IRA, why would he be involved.

gladrags

AndonHandon wrote: »

Hypothetical. Assumptive. Manipulative.

Who is this "brave girl" standing up to?

I am making no assumptions.

You clearly are.

The claims this individual is making are unfounded.

You are prempting natural justice.

Innocent until proven guilty.

take everything

First Christmas ad- middle of October.

freddiek

that girl was very well coached.

Eilis O'Hanlon's cousin??

Sindo probably are paying her expenses.

Phoebas

Heat_Wave wrote: »

Without evidence this is a very difficult one to call. On one hand she could be telling the truth, on the other hand she could be destroying a man's/Parties reputation. A lot of things do not add up here

Adam's reputation in relation to handling sexual abuse cases is already destroyed.

AndonHandon

gladrags wrote: »

Who is this "brave girl" standing up to?

I am making no assumptions.

You clearly are.

The claims this individual is making are unfounded.

You are prempting natural justice.

Innocent until proven guilty.

The claims of abuse have not been tested. The claims of being investigated by members of SF/IRA in relation to her abuse should be met with threats of defamatory legal proceedings, if untrue. Of course, truth is a defence to defamation so issuing proceedings may not be the wisest if this is something which is sought to be covered up.

Busted Flat.

This show has to go down as the worst show in the series, this is not justice for Maria, just being used by a failed politician, a mouth piece for FG and a failed journo. Very sad for the future of politics in our country. No hope for our future.

sligojoek

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Is that poor girl watching this shambles from backstage? :eek:

What on earth has MLOD to add to the (non) debate? And who's this other geezer?

I'm guessing she was sent in by Enda to do a hatchet job on Adams

Happyman42

More impossible to prove allegations at pivotal times in NI.
In other news the DUP refused to take part in talks today because an Irish minister was present, not a dickie bird about it on Vinnie,

Busted Flat.

Did I just hear the failed journo say the war was over. An admittance that it was a war,and not a terrorist campaign, this is a first for the failed Journo.

Busted Flat.

sligojoek wrote: »

I'm guessing she was sent in by Enda to do a hatchet job on Adams

She has the head for it.

Happyman42

Busted Flat. wrote: »

Did I just hear the failed journo say the war was over. An admittance that it was a war,and not a terrorist campaign, this is a first for the failed Journo.

To paraphrase Vinnie's own admission...'the dogs in the street knew what was going on in the church in Ireland' but did he as a journalist expose and even report it? Hypocrisy to the high heavens there.

gladrags

AndonHandon wrote: »

The claims of abuse have not been tested. The claims of being investigated by members of SF/IRA in relation to her abuse should be met with threats of defamatory legal proceedings, if untrue. Of course, truth is a defence to defamation so issuing proceedings may not be the wisest if this is something which is sought to be covered up.

The bottom line is a court of law, or the Euro court,or court North or South.

Trial by medis is not in anyones interest

Particularly this person.

Manipulation yes

Busted Flat.

hotmail.com wrote: »

What would the relevance of that be?

One guesses she's not a SF fan!

Serious question to ask, does she support the dissidents, what is her political connections, or connections to low life journos looking for a score to improve their image. In this day and age these questions need to be asked.She could be credible, I have no reason to doubt her version of events. But she came across as well tutored for her first time on TV.

Happyman42

Busted Flat. wrote: »

Serious question to ask, does she support the dissidents, what is her political connections, or connections to low life journos looking for a score to improve their image. In this day and age these questions need to be asked.She could be credible, I have no reason to doubt her version of events. But she came across as well tutored for her first time on TV.

You have to be meticulous as a journalist and as a citizen when it comes to stuff like this. Because there are so many un-provable allegations, what are we up to now? Vinnie was already convinced in his intro to this section, which doesn't reflect well on him as a journalist tbh. The alleations just seem to keep coming and never go anywhere, but they do keep the anti SF /republcan crowd morally and indignantly outraged, funnily enough.

Busted Flat.

I think the age of consent in the UK is 16. Questions, Questions, Questions.

Phoebas

Busted Flat. wrote: »

Serious question to ask, does she support the dissidents, what is her political connections, or connections to low life journos looking for a score to improve their image. In this day and age these questions need to be asked.She could be credible, I have no reason to doubt her version of events. But she came across as well tutored for her first time on TV.

Lets try to put the blame on the victim....

Busted Flat. wrote: »

I think the age of consent in the UK is 16. Questions, Questions, Questions.

... or muddy the water in some other way.

Busted Flat.

Phoebas wrote: »

Lets try to put the blame on the victim....


... or muddy the water in some other way.

I am not trying to put the blame on the victim, the council elections, we had Adams arrest in the north, SF and AAA wipe the floor in the by elections and this comes up with mickey martin speaking on the plinth with Maria, then we have VB show trial. As I said Questions Questions Questions.

Xenophile

The girl interviewed last night on VB has remained nameless on this forum , if I am wrong give me the number of the post where she is named. I tried to watch this programme on 3Player several times but it breaks down after about twenty minutes. Is this a form of censorship !

Lady Chatterton

Xenophile wrote: »

The girl interviewed last night on VB has remained nameless on this forum , if I am wrong give me the number of the post where she is named. I tried to watch this programme on 3Player several times but it breaks down after about twenty minutes. Is this a form of censorship !

Mairia Cahill

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/sinn-fein-engulfed-by-yet-another-sex-abuse-scandal-as-iras-kangaroo-court-exposed-by-victim-30670742.html

Xenophile

Thanks to the mod who named the lady involved.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/1017/653056-cahill/

Happyman42

Xenophile wrote: »

The girl interviewed last night on VB has remained nameless on this forum , if I am wrong give me the number of the post where she is named. I tried to watch this programme on 3Player several times but it breaks down after about twenty minutes. Is this a form of censorship !

She gave up her anonimity back in 2009-10. Nobody is censoring anything.

Busted Flat.

Is this a party political broadcast on behalf of criminals in Irish water.

coolhull

Tonight: water, water everywhere

But I wonder just how many have sent back their ''package'' from I.W?

grey_so_what

"Water just doesn't just fall out of the sky"....

You gotta love the FG thinking....

coolhull

If we get the weather they say we're gonna get, then there 'll be no need to conserve water

grey_so_what

I would imagine the charges ARE modest to Michael Noonan thoughts considering the salary he's on.....

It's another world, another planet that politician's live on...

coolhull

Irish Water ad: ''We're on this journey together''

We? We? Who's the 'we'? I'll make my own travelling arrangements, thanks :mad

yipeeeee

Vincent speaking as if there was a trial and guilty verdict in the maria Cahill case.

Roger_007

"Non-indigenous people".....? Is that what we call immigrants now?

coolhull

Cowen likes his hair gel

Roger_007

Does anyone believe ANYTHING Gerry Adams says anymore?

Harry Angstrom

Adams is becoming a real liability for Sinn Fein. The party are going nowhere while he's at the helm.