Best players to have played in the premiership?

Iused2likebusts

Fescue wrote: »

Listen if you want to put Shearer in ahead of Suarez do so. I don't give two shiney ****es. I'm picking those three because I think they are the three best I've seen.

Totally agree the best 3 forwards I've seen in the Pl era. With suarez currently 3rd out of the 3.

Rayne Wooney

Fescue wrote: »

Listen if you want to put Shearer in ahead of Suarez do so. I don't give two shiney ****es. I'm picking those three because I think they are the three best I've seen.

See that's your preference which is different from what you've been arguing all along, I think most non Liverpool fans can agree that Suarez isn't in the tier of greatest players to ever play in the league off the back of one season.

CSF wrote: »

Of course he is. Not as good as Ronaldo who unquestionably takes the accolade but definitely in the upper echelons. He has been simply unstoppable.

In one season yes. Doesn't put him in the same bracket as the others.

Fescue

CSF wrote: »

It is absolutely fair, the Liverpool United ****e that goes on in these threads is one of the worst things on this forum.

Its one thing having a differance of opinion on who the best three are but running around trying to explain why a player shouldn't be included in the conversation purely because of club allegiances is desperate stuff. Embarrassing really.

Fescue

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Totally agree the best 3 forwards I've seen in the Pl era. With suarez currently 3rd out of the 3.

Bingo. Agree completely.

Iused2likebusts

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

See that's your preference which is different from what you've been arguing all along, I think most non Liverpool fans can agree that Suarez isn't in the tier of greatest players to ever play in the league off the back of one season.




In one season yes. Doesn't put him in the same bracket as the others.

How did u think he played the season before last

CSF

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Almost as bad as the LOI v everyone else stuff...

A million times worse, at least both sides of that argue their actual opinion rather than tinted sunglasses.

Rayne Wooney

There's some confusion it seems, I'd have RVP in my team over Suarez but I can see that Suarez has been the better player over the last year. That's preference

Saying Suarez is one of the greatest players to play in the premier league is delusion.

Macavity.

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Saying Suarez is one of the greatest players to play in the premier league is delusion.

I'm embarrassed for you.

Rayne Wooney

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

There's some confusion it seems, I'd have RVP in my team over Suarez but I can see that Suarez has been the better player over the last year. That's preference

Saying Suarez is one of the greatest players to play in the premier league is delusion.

We get it. You don't think Suarez warrants an inclusion.

It doesn't matter who people put in this thread. You are only getting annoyed as he's an ex Liverpool player.


I wouldnt take it too serious, it's only a bit of crack and discussion

Iused2likebusts

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

There's some confusion it seems, I'd have RVP in my team over Suarez but I can see that Suarez has been the better player over the last year. That's preference

Saying Suarez is one of the greatest players to play in the premier league is delusion.

He has been the better play over the past 2 years you could argue RVP was better in utds title winning season but it was close however for consistency nobody has matched suarez over the past 2 seasons. Suarez is only coming into his prime now while I'd suggest as I did last year that RVP's very best days are gone. RVP is still class and with suarez gone I'd have him and Aguero as the top strikers in the league

Rayne Wooney

rarnes1 wrote: »

We get it. You don't think Suarez warrants an inclusion.

It doesn't matter who people put in this thread. You are only getting annoyed as he's an ex Liverpool player.


I wouldnt take it too serious, it's only a bit of crack and discussion

That is wrong and you know it, the only other questionable inclusion I've seen in this thread that wasn't taking the píss is Giggs who shouldn't be mentioned but that's already been done to death in this and other threads.

Suarez being one of the greatest players to play in the premier league and even in the top 3 of all time is a new one, and I'm going to point out the craziness of it.

Fescue

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

There's some confusion it seems, I'd have RVP in my team over Suarez but I can see that Suarez has been the better player over the last year. That's preference

Saying Suarez is one of the greatest players to play in the premier league is delusion.

Will I Amnt

CSF wrote: »

A million times worse, at least both sides of that argue their actual opinion rather than tinted sunglasses.

Lol, sure, very unbiased posting in the unpopular opinions thread.

"You don't know anything because you don't go to matches" is the standard retort there.

smileyj1987

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

There's some confusion it seems, I'd have RVP in my team over Suarez but I can see that Suarez has been the better player over the last year. That's preference

Saying Suarez is one of the greatest players to play in the premier league is delusion.

I would have Luis Suarez over robin van sicknote . Suarez is a much better all round player then him and can make things happen that most players .

CSF

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Lol, sure, very unbiased posting in the unpopular opinions thread.

"You don't know anything because you don't go to matches" is the standard retort there.

My postings in that thread are my actual opinion though, whether you agree with them or not. Not me viewing things through red-tinted glasses with opinions that I'll change drastically if the player moves to my club the following year.

Not that my opinions in the unpopular opinions thread (which are clearly very unpopular to you so seemingly they're in exactly the right place) have any place in this thread.

Mickeroo

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Lol, sure, very unbiased posting in the unpopular opinions thread.

"You don't know anything because you don't go to matches" is the standard retort there.

CSF wrote: »

My postings in that thread are my actual opinion though, whether you agree with them or not. Not me viewing things through red-tinted glasses with opinions that I'll change drastically if the player moves to my club the following year.

Not that my opinions in the unpopular opinions thread (which are clearly very unpopular to you so seemingly they're in exactly the right place) have any place in this thread.

Take it to PM guys.

CSF

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

That is wrong and you know it, the only other questionable inclusion I've seen in this thread that wasn't taking the píss is Giggs who shouldn't be mentioned but that's already been done to death in this and other threads.

Suarez being one of the greatest players to play in the premier league and even in the top 3 of all time is a new one, and I'm going to point out the craziness of it.

You're wrong. I think most people would agree on the top 2 being Ronaldo and Henry, after that there are a number of reasonable selections, many of whom have been mentioned in this thread. Suarez is without question one of them. That you can't admit that because of the team you support is pretty embarassing for all involved.

Rayne Wooney

CSF wrote: »

You're wrong. I think most people would agree on the top 2 being Ronaldo and Henry, after that there are a number of reasonable selections, many of whom have been mentioned in this thread. Suarez is without question one of them. That you can't admit that because of the team you support is pretty embarassing for all involved.

I mentioned a Liverpool player in the names I put up earlier so I don't know why you are talking about club bias

CSF

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

I mentioned a Liverpool player in the names I put up earlier so I don't know why you are talking about club bias

Because it is so blatantly obvious here. Any neutral or objectively speaking individual couldn't help but be blown away by Suarez's contribution to the Premiership in his relatively short spell there. Only Ronaldo has been as devastating in one particular season as Suarez was this season. Henry wins because he was so good for so long but only Shearer, Vieira, Keane and Van Nistelrooy have legitimate claims to the throne along with Suarez IMO, the greats of the Premier League, Suarez is one of them.

EuropeanSon

CSF wrote: »

Because it is so blatantly obvious here. Any neutral or objectively speaking individual couldn't help but be blown away by Suarez's contribution to the Premiership in his relatively short spell there. Only Ronaldo has been as devastating in one particular season as Suarez was this season. Henry wins because he was so good for so long but only Shearer, Vieira, Keane and Van Nistelrooy have legitimate claims to the throne along with Suarez IMO, the greats of the Premier League, Suarez is one of them.

Henry in 2004, and arguably in 2003 too, was at least as good, if not better, than Suarez last season. Short memories.

Larry Wildman

Folks, the Suarez stuff is just noise.

The answer is "Cristiano Ronaldo".

Putting anyone else at the top of the pile is ludicrous.

CSF

EuropeanSon wrote: »

Henry in 2004, and arguably in 2003 too, was at least as good, if not better.

As much as I rate Henry, and I rated him very highly, I disagree. For a player who offers as much as Suarez does to the team outside of goals (I also recognise that Henry offered plenty more also) to score 31 goals in 33 games, that is just absolutely devastating. I think we'll only truly realise how big Suarez was to this Liverpool team this season coming when he isn't there.

CSF

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Folks, the Suarez stuff is just noise.

The answer is "Cristiano Ronaldo".

Putting anyone else at the top of the pile is ludicrous.

Cristiano Ronaldo is not a plural. Have a look at the thread title again.

Rayne Wooney

CSF wrote: »

Because it is sblatantly obvious here. Any neutral or objectively speaking individual couldn't help but be blown away by Suarez's contribution to the Premiership in his relatively short spell there. Only Ronaldo has been as devastating in one particular season as Suarez was this season. Henry wins because he was so good for so long but only Shearer, Vieira, Keane and Van Nistelrooy have legitimate claims to the throne along with Suarez IMO, the greats of the Premier League, Suarez is one of them.

The only reason you've included RVN in that list is because of the stuff posted earlier, the same case could be made for plenty of other players that you've left out but are ignorant to because somebody hasn't argued their case.

Suarez's time in the premier league, one below average season, one good season when compared to the standard of a good PL striker, and one good season when the standard is set higher at the best strikers in the world. That is nowhere near good enough to be talked about as one of the greatest players to play in the PL.


As for your later post, Alan Shearer scored 31 in 35, Drogba scored 29 in 32

EuropeanSon

CSF wrote: »

As much as I rate Henry, and I rated him very highly, I disagree. For a player who offers as much as Suarez does to the team outside of goals (I also recognise that Henry offered plenty more also) to score 31 goals in 33 games, that is just absolutely devastating. I think we'll only truly realise how big Suarez was to this Liverpool team this season coming when he isn't there.

24 goals, 23 assists. That's what Henry got in 2003 in the league, according to Wikipedia.

Henry was also Ballon D'Or runner up in each of those years.

I think you just don't remember him as well as Suarez, to be honest. Things fresh in the memory are easier to consider.

CSF

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

The only reason you've included RVN in that list is because of the stuff posted earlier, the same case could be made for plenty of other players that you've left out but are ignorant to because somebody hasn't argued their case.

Suarez's time in the premier league, one below average season, one good season when compared to the standard of a good PL striker, and one good season when the standard is set higher at the best strikers in the world. That is nowhere near good enough to be talked about as one of the greatest players to play in the PL.


As for your later post, Alan Shearer scored 31 in 35, Drogba scored 29 in 32

If you actually think Luis Suarez ever had a below average season in the Premiership, there actually isn't a point in continuing conversation with you about him. The worst case of fan goggles I've seen in these parts. I'll leave you to it.

munster87

Best 5 in my eyes for what they could do with a football would be Ronaldo, followed by Henry, Bergkamp, Scholes and Cantona. Also thought Jay Jay Okocha had great technique and could have been rated higher in the PL with a better team.

CSF

EuropeanSon wrote: »

24 goals, 23 assists. That's what Henry got in 2003 in the league, according to Wikipedia.

Henry was also Ballon D'Or runner up in each of those years.

I think you just don't remember him as well as Suarez, to be honest. Things fresh in the memory are easier to consider.

Fair enough, either way they were both exceptional. No debating that.

Iused2likebusts

CSF wrote: »

If you actually think Luis Suarez ever had a below average season in the Premiership, there actually isn't a point in continuing conversation with you about him. The worst case of fan goggles I've seen in these parts. I'll leave you to it.

He did on Wikipedia the stats don't lie . He has been class since he came to England obviously last season was his best. It must be remembered that suarez doesn't take pens which nearly all the other great strikers mentioned did.

CSF

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

He did on Wikipedia the stats don't lie . He has been class since he came to England obviously last season was his best. It must be remembered that suarez doesn't take pens which nearly all the other great strikers mentioned did.

Stats lie all the time, although you may be being sarcastic here.

Larry Wildman

CSF wrote: »

Cristiano Ronaldo is not a plural. Have a look at the thread title again.

Was the title changed?

Rayne Wooney

In the context of being called one of the greatest players to ever play in the PL, Suarez's 2011/2012 season was terrible

He is not near the top tier

RFOLEY1990

Ronaldo was the best player to have played in the Prem. But Henry was better in the Premier League if yas get me

Iused2likebusts

CSF wrote: »

Stats lie all the time, although you may be being sarcastic here.

I was being sarcastic people will twist stats whatever way they want to

darced

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CSF

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Was the title changed?

Not sure, if there was a thread looking for THE best player to have played in the Premiership, I think it would be close enough to unanimous.

darced

darced wrote: »

Boy did Luis Suarez rustle some jimmies in three short years, what a hero.

Unreal.

Makes for hilarious reading tbh!

Larry Wildman

Ronaldo
Henry
Shearer
Scholes
Keane
Giggs
Van Nistelrooy
Gerrard
Lampard
Suarez
Ashley Cole
Veron
Shevchenko
Beckham
Gazza
Drogba
Vieira
Makelele
Klinsmann
Pires
Terry
Wright
Rooney
Van Persie
Cantona
Irwin
Le Tissier
Toure
Aguero
Bale
Zola
Gullit
Weah
Schmeichel
Stam
Bergkamp
Vidic

Larry Wildman

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Ronaldo
Henry
Shearer
Scholes
Keane
Giggs
Van Nistelrooy
Suarez
Drogba
Makelele
Klinsmann
Rooney
Van Persie
Cantona
Toure
Aguero
Bale
Gullit
Weah
Schmeichel
Stam
Vidic

Weah scored 4 goals in the league

Larry Wildman

rarnes1 wrote: »

Weah scored 4 goals in the league

Weah was world player of the year and a phenomenon.

hadepsx

Jay jay ocha (Sp)

Larry Wildman

Gazza

Larry Wildman

Matt Le Tissier

brianregan09

Fernando Hierro was okay there at one stage

Soft Falling Rain

darced wrote: »

Boy did Luis Suarez rustle some jimmies in three short years, what a hero.

That's why we loved the chap.

glued

1. Ronaldo
2. Henry
3. Suarez

K-9

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

The only reason you've included RVN in that list is because of the stuff posted earlier, the same case could be made for plenty of other players that you've left out but are ignorant to because somebody hasn't argued their case.

Suarez's time in the premier league, one below average season, one good season when compared to the standard of a good PL striker, and one good season when the standard is set higher at the best strikers in the world. That is nowhere near good enough to be talked about as one of the greatest players to play in the PL.


As for your later post, Alan Shearer scored 31 in 35, Drogba scored 29 in 32

Blatter posted Drogbas stats earlier, not that impressive, Suarez would match or beat him albeit a shorter time frame.

Zico

Diego Forlan has two European Golen Boots and a World Cup Golden Ball, that's got to make him the best South American striker to have played in the Premier League.

Hernan Crespo, Sergio Aguero, Faustino Asprilla and Luis Suarez would next best.

8-10

Zico wrote: »

Diego Forlan has two European Golen Boots and a World Cup Golden Ball, that's got to make him the best South American striker to have played in the Premier League.

Hernan Crespo, Sergio Aguero, Faustino Asprilla and Luis Suarez would next best.

Faustino Asprilla ahead of Tevez?? That stinks of United bitterness tbh. 3 League titles in England and a CL title and FA Cup

Zico

8-10 wrote: »

Faustino Asprilla ahead of Tevez?? That stinks of United bitterness tbh. 3 League titles in England and a CL title and FA Cup

Honestly he slipped my mind. He beats the lot of them.:)